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if paul anka was spun at the torch - why would russ cover it up at wigan??




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Spencer Davis were a rhythm n blues band and that to me = soul
Don't know if they could be Put into that confusing bracket of " northern soul"?
But they were ( I'm almost sure!!) the opening live acts at both brazenose and whitworth street twisted wheel sites
At all allnighters and soul venues in the seventies that I went to gimme some lovin keep on running trampoline ect were. Big floor fillers !
Ok steveie winwood went on to more progressive rock ??? Stuff
but the early stuff is soul to me! Blue eyed soul ????
"spike"


blind faith awsome raw blues band nearly as good a pete greens fleetwood mack way off topic i no Posted Image

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white pop or blue eyed soul

mod club record or nothern soul

rnb covers band or a SOUL band

spencer davies not soul or northern easy when you think about it


So by that you mean Sheffield tiffs nighters where not northern soul ? Spencer D played half dozen times at most i went too .Posted Image

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okay then georgie fame lol lol
ive given up with this thread yawn yawn off to listen too some real soul music !

And the Coventry Massive start waiting for the Bus
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white pop or blue eyed soul

mod club record or nothern soul

rnb covers band or a SOUL band

spencer davies not soul or northern easy when you think about it



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Sounds like they never played "soul" at the wheel or the flamingo club orvthe king mojo in the sixties (cos they were mod clubs)
I'm so sure that your right that soul music could only have been played at Wigan
When you scoff at artists such as georgie fame stevie winwood ect pop artists they may have become but there early stuff was like say the kinks and the faces stones and even the beatles was mainly rhythm and blues basic raw soul music
Yawn I'm off to listen to some real soul music perhaps what judy street or the flasher or some other manufactured Wigan crap"spike"
Oops forgot to write innbd type to really make my point

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Stirrin up Some Soul was played at Wigan late 73, remember (god knows how)being one of he first in one night with Gray, anyway as it was empty and it was one of the first records played, the sound virtually pinned us against the wall, and no it wasn't the DS in disguise!

No, with thought, the sound that pinned us against the wall was Sandy Nelson -Sock it to em JB, but the Marketts was next.

When was the Vogues - That's the Tune first aired?

Shelly


That reminds me, P.J.Proby "That's the Tune" and "Niki Hoeky"

Strawberry Jam - Personally

Offenbach - Judy In Disguise

All sound kinda shit now though, or perhaps they always did.

Edited by Arkwright, 06 February 2011 - 07:01 PM.


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Let's not get bittier or twisted, with 20/20 hindsight it is easy to critcise today what was played in the past, and there was some crap from both black and white artists.
The point is, call it blue eyed soul or whatever, I can guarantee the the majority of the sounds listed on this thread with a few exceptions, we thought were by black artists at the time, it was only at a later date did we find out that they were "white" did it matter, no because they were soulful records and we were all soul fans.

I didn't know till this thread that the O'Kaysions were white and I first heard that 40 year ago!

Edited by shelly, 06 February 2011 - 07:32 PM.



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if paul anka was spun at the torch - why would russ cover it up at wigan??



PROBABLY BECAUSE HE NEVER WENT TO THE TORCH OR THE CATS.

I SOLD A COPY WELL BEFORE WIGAN OPENED CAN'T REMEMBER WHO TO THOUGH

Edited by bri. phill, 06 February 2011 - 07:41 PM.





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just remembered it was covered as johnny caswell...for some time i guess.74???

gr8 stories on here as always....

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white pop or blue eyed soul

mod club record or nothern soul

rnb covers band or a SOUL band

spencer davies not soul or northern easy when you think about it


Spencer Davies - played at nighters = Northern :thumbsup:

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spencer daviis group did cover versions of jackie edwards originals which were far far better but he wasnt white enough for the pop buying public in fact the t.v. program READY ,STEADY ,GO!did a christmas special of him and his songs including" my baby youve run away and leftme "-a soon to be released 45 in 1966/67 and the bastards poured BLACK snow over him !!!!!!

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just thought on about a record that was on juke box jury on the BBC in the mid sixties, that was a hit at the wheel in 66/67 a group of white backing singers "THE LADYBIRDS "which was "A touch of velvet ,a sting of brass,semi instrumental vocals used as instruments. That was definitely pre 74!!!!!!!

Edited by roggert, 06 February 2011 - 10:03 PM.



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I Assume your referring to the record by Mood Mosaic which I think was either Dave Lee Travis or Johnnie Walker's theme tune on pirate radio. The record was also played at my local where a lot of the records were played at the wheel first at that time.

Steve

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Let's not get bittier or twisted, with 20/20 hindsight it is easy to critcise today what was played in the past, and there was some crap from both black and white artists.
The point is, call it blue eyed soul or whatever, I can guarantee the the majority of the sounds listed on this thread with a few exceptions, we thought were by black artists at the time, it was only at a later date did we find out that they were "white" did it matter, no because they were soulful records and we were all soul fans.

I didn't know till this thread that the O'Kaysions were white and I first heard that 40 year ago!




That " bombshell " for me happened many years ago , when someone revealed that The O'Kaysions were white .

Up to then , I assumed they were black because of the " sound " of the record .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raJWuz7qQVc



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She was from Liverpool and her real name is Jean Owen.

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At what point did their 'Stirrin' Up Some Soul' first see action?
Always reminds me of the Yate nighters.
:ohmy:


I 1st heard it mid73 (poss Va Va's), got one at Wigan Oct 73.

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Never liked this.:D

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That " bombshell " for me happened many years ago , when someone revealed that The O'Kaysions were white .

Up to then , I assumed they were black because of the " sound " of the record .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raJWuz7qQVc



Malc


Still like this, I think it would have been late 70s when I found out there where white.:ohmy:

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Never liked this.:lol:


No, me neither Dave

whereas the instrumental "Tracks To Your Mind" used to take me head off.

:ohmy:

Some say it's a sign of weakness for a man to beg

Then weak I would rather be if it means having you to keep, 'cause lately I've been losing sleep


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Question
What where the best 3 sounds recorded and played by white artists up to 73? that cuts out a lot of the pop crap played at Wigan, I know you could fill this with Spencer Davis Group but....
My view
Rufus Lumley I'm Standing
Wayne Fontana Something Keeps Calling Me Back
Charlie Rich Love is After Me


Three great ones to start off with.:ohmy:

Edited by davetay, 07 February 2011 - 01:30 PM.



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That " bombshell " for me happened many years ago , when someone revealed that The O'Kaysions were white .

Up to then , I assumed they were black because of the " sound " of the record .



Malc

I thought I had cloth ears Malc Posted Image never thought of these as anything other than white, especially when they sing the chorus.

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Alan Bown - Gonna Fix You Good / Emergency 999

O'Kaysions - Girl Watcher

Travis Wammack - Scratchy

Ronnie Milsap - Ain't No Soul

Frankie Vall - Opus 17

Human Beinz - Nobody But Me

Bob Brady - Everybody's Going To A Love - In

Chris Clark - From Head To Toe



Malc


Always hated Human Beinz and Travis Wammack, but love Bob Brady and O'Kaysions.:ohmy:

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Dean Parrish - Determination

and was Danny Wagner - "I Lost A True Love" a pre '73 spin ? Think it was


Great call "Determination"

I didn't know "I lost a true love " pre 73, but that means f++k all.
I got the LP for "This thing caled love" early 74, and when Wigan played " I lost...." later it was a bonus.

Edited by davetay, 07 February 2011 - 01:41 PM.



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THREE OF THE WORST

Guy Darrell I've Been Hurt
R Dean Taylor Ghost in My House
Relections Just Like Adam & Eve, though Just Like Romeo & Juliet was ok


One man's posion and all that,
I like J L A & E, but not keen on J L R & J,
Also still like G I M H, which was big in 73,.

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mitch ryder....you get your kicks

""""""""""""......breakout

fathers angels....bok to bach


spiral staircase...more today than yesterday

dean parrish....tell her.


Don't like "Tell Her" that much, still love all the rest, Jim.

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Stirrin up Some Soul was played at Wigan late 73, remember (god knows how)being one of he first in one night with Gray, anyway as it was empty and it was one of the first records played, the sound virtually pinned us against the wall, and no it wasn't the DS in disguise!

No, with thought, the sound that pinned us against the wall was Sandy Nelson -Sock it to em JB, but the Marketts was next.

When was the Vogues - That's the Tune first aired?

Shelly


1st heard the Vogues late 72 or early 73, and thinking WTF is this shite.

To me at the time it was the worst record I had heard at a soul do.

Of course that was to change when a year or two after Wigan had opened it's doors.:ohmy:

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Who was first onto Johnny Vanelli's romper-stomper, 'Seven days of loving you' on Pre-Vue...and when?
Proper Norvern!

:ohmy:


Ian Levine was the 1st DJ that I heard play it late summer 74, it was played at Wigan later.

Edited by davetay, 07 February 2011 - 02:05 PM.



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No, me neither Dave

whereas the instrumental "Tracks To Your Mind" used to take me head off.

:ohmy:


Ditto lol :lol:

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Nice one Mickey Lee Lane played a lot but i wasnt too keen personally but i hate to admit i didnt mind the Fife Piper bet that hasnt been played for years!

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Just thought of Dean Parrish--Skate Thought id hit the jackpot when i picked that up on Stateside in Sixties---Must be his worst tune i reckon. Anyone agree?

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Sill best version by a mile,for me anyway.........
dean parrish - tell her - boom promo [rs]29698[/rs]

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There is alot of records allready put up that I like here's a couple more

The Shakers "One Wonderful Moment"

Los Canarios "Get On Your Knees"

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Gene Latter - Sign On The Dotted Line

Jason Knight - Our Love Is Getting Stronger

Elvis Presley - Rubberneckin'

and I'm sure there was an Herb Alpert track but can't remember which one.

Edited by Arkwright, 08 February 2011 - 01:50 PM.


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Then weak I would rather be if it means having you to keep, 'cause lately I've been losing sleep


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Gene Latter - Sign On The Dotted Line

Jason Knight - Our Love Is Getting Stronger

Elvis Presley - Rubberneckin'

and I'm sure there was an Herb Alpert track but can't remember which one.




Was it this one Dave ? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g3beuHRZ4g



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Might have been Malc, can't remember now but I remember thinking all those years ago

Herb Alpert WTF! :)

Some say it's a sign of weakness for a man to beg

Then weak I would rather be if it means having you to keep, 'cause lately I've been losing sleep


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Might have been Malc, can't remember now but I remember thinking all those years ago

Herb Alpert WTF! :)




Joking apart Dave , HA had a hand in writing a well - known NS track , but for the life of me , I cannot recall what it is at the time of typing ..... but it was on UK Pye .


Malc

Edited by Malc Burton, 08 February 2011 - 06:50 PM.



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But wasn't that fella the A in A & M?? :)



HA was indeed the " A " in A & M - the " M " was Jerry Moss .


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A few more

Beggin -Time Box and the Four Seasons, is this the only white sound covered by other white artists? I know you're going to prove me wrong.

Evie Sands - Picture Me Lonely

Bob Brady - More, More More of Your love

Lastly, the absolute worst , any dj who played this massacre of Darrell Banks ' immortal "Open the Door To Your Heart", should hold his head in shame

or as Larry Lightning used to say - Hanging Offence!!!

Shelly

Edited by shelly, 08 February 2011 - 09:17 PM.



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Sounds like they never played "soul" at the wheel or the flamingo club orvthe king mojo in the sixties (cos they were mod clubs)
I'm so sure that your right that soul music could only have been played at Wigan
When you scoff at artists such as georgie fame stevie winwood ect pop artists they may have become but there early stuff was like say the kinks and the faces stones and even the beatles was mainly rhythm and blues basic raw soul music
Yawn I'm off to listen to some real soul music perhaps what judy street or the flasher or some other manufactured Wigan crap"spike"
Oops forgot to write innbd type to really make my point


Off topic sorry,
I think we knew each other years ago although you are a bit younger,you're post re Arthur Dudly brought if back, Dave Peacock used to knock around with us in 74/75, did you go to the Old English Matlock?
Shelly Derby or Ripley!

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There is alot of records allready put up that I like here's a couple more

The Shakers "One Wonderful Moment"

Los Canarios "Get On Your Knees"


That should wake Swish up, I spent half of one night at the Torch with him telling me over and over again how he'd he'd discovered it at his sisters boyfriend s house, or was I more smashed than him?

Shelly

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and the cover version by the trackers- hole in the wall released two weeks before george stones better version cos i bought both versions at their release but couldnt stand the trackers version after george stones played. 13 shillings and 8 pence yet bought mitch riders l.p. the same week with all his best hits for a quid more!!!an stevie wonders lp the week after with .love ago go and most of his best mod music tracks which became northern soul when they were re played seven years later

Edited by roggert, 09 February 2011 - 08:41 PM.



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chris farlow" out of time" still a monster at the wheel now, bit confused about northern, mod, blue eyed soul etc pigeon holes though, always thought that wot made our music genre so special
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O'Kaysions clip is magnificent! Still love this.

Indecent trouser alert though :shades: Reckon that's where the lead singer of Mud got his idea from. It always appalled our mam when they were on TOTP as she maintained "he's not wearing underpants the dirty bugger":ohmy:

Edited by PhilT, 09 February 2011 - 09:32 PM.


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Off topic sorry,
I think we knew each other years ago although you are a bit younger,you're post re Arthur Dudly brought if back, Dave Peacock used to knock around with us in 74/75, did you go to the Old English Matlock?
Shelly Derby or Ripley!


I can remember Dave Peacock, he was living in Hasland last I knew I think.

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has anyone mentioned r dean taylor....ghost in my house...it was MASSIVE back in 72
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