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From JM Auction - what is the record going to be!!!

On Thursday this space will be taken by a NORTHERN SOUL 7" LEGEND! It seems I've been waiting ALL my life to even see a copy, it's now in my hands and I'm almost suffering from premature…. death. Thrilled wasn't the word when a little old couple flew to England came into my office and politely asked if we would you like to auction this 45 for them. Good job those statins work, I was instantly thinking "do they do Tena pants for men? This was a proper NS "Tutankhamen" moment for me, hopefully it will be for you too.

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From JM Auction - what is the record going to be!!!

On Thursday this space will be taken by a NORTHERN SOUL 7" LEGEND! It seems I've been waiting ALL my life to even see a copy, it's now in my hands and I'm almost suffering from premature.... death. Thrilled wasn't the word when a little old couple flew to England came into my office and politely asked if we would you like to auction this 45 for them. Good job those statins work, I was instantly thinking "do they do Tena pants for men? This was a proper NS "Tutankhamen" moment for me, hopefully it will be for you too.



Dunno - Junior McCants?

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Dunno - Junior McCants?


it has to be something that has since before, thought to be unreleased...

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Dunno - Junior McCants?


I wonder if the clue is his last played tune??

Hope not or it'll be a anti climax :thumbsup:
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From JM Auction - what is the record going to be!!!

On Thursday this space will be taken by a NORTHERN SOUL 7" LEGEND! It seems I've been waiting ALL my life to even see a copy, it's now in my hands and I'm almost suffering from premature.... death. Thrilled wasn't the word when a little old couple flew to England came into my office and politely asked if we would you like to auction this 45 for them. Good job those statins work, I was instantly thinking "do they do Tena pants for men? This was a proper NS "Tutankhamen" moment for me, hopefully it will be for you too.


There's just not enough information here. We need to know where they flew in from as that will affect the money in their pocket. If they live in Corfu, you can get good prices with ScramJet and so would make sense even for a £5k record. But if the old couple came from California; well, thats quite a few thousand pounds to knock off...Some god-given-gift of a hunce tells me its America, another hunce that they are really here on holiday and thought they'd pop in to save Mr Gordy going to the post office - and they planed to go to Melton on their trip anyway to pick up some of those rather nice pork pies with Stilton on top from the world famous pork pie shoppe.

I think we're now getting closer.

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11 June 2011 - 05:24 PM
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Probably yet another 'only 1 known copy Len Barry album'.....

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it has to be something that has since before, thought to be unreleased...


good call. was thinking somethings similar although it could also be sth that was LP-only so far or a another case of a Frankie Beverly ROUSER /Fairmount situation. Or a one-off acetate where someone found a real 45 (Esther Grant ? :thumbsup: :yes: )

Also would include Junior McCants as a possibility knowing that there is one other copy still around which hasnt yet surfaced as far as I know....I mean, not really many possibilities left since he auctioned the Frank Williams, Antellects, Andantes, Del-Larks, Inticers, Eddie Parker, Gogate 45s, the Shrine cataloge. etc etc ...at a guess JM must have seen or even autcioned almost every other rare Northern Soul record in the past ?

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On re-reading the first sentence it MUST be a record that was thought or rumoured to exist on 7inch but so far no one (well at least not JM) had ever seen a copy of. So come on you Rare Soul Sherlock Holmes of this world...get your heads working!

..or sit back relax and wait till thursday :thumbsup:

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First record I thought about was the Mello Souls. Most valuable record I can think of, considering Frank Wilson has already been there Posted Image
Little John was another idea, didn't know he already auctioned one!

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First record I thought about was the Mello Souls. Most valuable record I can think of, considering Frank Wilson has already been there Posted Image
Little John was another idea, didn't know he already auctioned one!


would have thought he would have had seen a copy at least..of both titles. Little John and Mello Souls ?



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good call. was thinking somethings similar although it could also be sth that was LP-only so far or a another case of a Frankie Beverly ROUSER /Fairmount situation. Or a one-off acetate where someone found a real 45 (Esther Grant ? :thumbsup: :yes: )

Also would include Junior McCants as a possibility knowing that there is one other copy still around which hasnt yet surfaced as far as I know....I mean, not really many possibilities left since he auctioned the Frank Williams, Antellects, Andantes, Del-Larks, Inticers, Eddie Parker, Gogate 45s, the Shrine cataloge. etc etc ...at a guess JM must have seen or even autcioned almost every other rare Northern Soul record in the past ?



Here's one for the pot that was suggested to me by a mate ..The inspirations on breakthrough :yes:
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would have thought he would have had seen a copy at least..of both titles. Little John and Mello Souls ?



I haven't been around enough to know, only started checking his auctions regularly 4 years ago.. Posted Image
So that's it, it must be something totally new as a 45! Very curious.. Posted Image

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good call. was thinking somethings similar although it could also be sth that was LP-only so far or a another case of a Frankie Beverly ROUSER /Fairmount situation. Or a one-off acetate where someone found a real 45 (Esther Grant ? :thumbsup: :yes: )

Also would include Junior McCants as a possibility knowing that there is one other copy still around which hasnt yet surfaced as far as I know....I mean, not really many possibilities left since he auctioned the Frank Williams, Antellects, Andantes, Del-Larks, Inticers, Eddie Parker, Gogate 45s, the Shrine cataloge. etc etc ...at a guess JM must have seen or even autcioned almost every other rare Northern Soul record in the past ?


i can't imagine a "Tutankhamen" moment for any of us with Jr McCants after in went on ebay the other year - and you're right he has handled most - but this he has not even 'seen' a copy. so would suggest no one over here 'known' has one. but it must be released - so unfortunatley Jean Carter goes out the window

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Couple flew to England must surely rule that one out :thumbsup:
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Couple flew to England must surely rule that one out :thumbsup:


why ? after having had their youth celebrated at wigan or where have you they could be living now in malta, south africa, austarlia..in fact anywhere in this world ?

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Don Varner on Veep ??


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Who cares, none of us plebs will be able to afford it anyway :thumbsup:

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Anyway, a UK issue of an already known tune issued in the US doesn't sound so exciting to me as this 45 is supposed to be!
Is it just me?

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Who cares, none of us plebs will be able to afford it anyway :thumbsup:


agreed. but its good fun to speculate :yes:

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Who cares, none of us plebs will be able to afford it anyway :thumbsup:


we could all chip in and buy it. then cut it up so we each have a piece...and at the same time making it rarer :-)

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we could all chip in and buy it. then cut it up so we each have a piece...and at the same time making it rarer :-)



:thumbsup: :thumbsup: andy rix has a story about that

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d.banks,on a london issue,???

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Could be another Frank Wilson - issue copy ??

Although my money is on an issue copy of the Anderson Brothers

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Don Varner on Veep thats one I'd like to see he's certainly building up the interest nicely and I'll be checking the site for sure next week.

Don gets my vote.

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Wonder if that little old couple flew in from Holland ...............
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Here's one for the pot that was suggested to me by a mate ..The inspirations on breakthrough :thumbsup:


I sold him one of these years ago.:thumbsup:

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billy woods,pucker white sussex demo,!!!


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Sam Williams Tower issue ??

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i don't think an issue/demo on the same label would be that exciting

it must be - thought unreleased/missing label number/different label

after all this hype we've built up it better be worth it!!

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:thumbsup: HI RANKING JOHNNY BOY, FIRST, WHY TOOT AND COME IN, KNOCK ON THE DOOR,? i RECKON IT'S A PAMA ISSUE OF THE VOLUMES OR SOMETHING THAT SO RARE IT'S COME OUT ON WAND LIKE THE IVORY'S AND THE HUMPHREY STOMP DID,? BUT IT COULD BE THE NIGHT Inst OR Diane brooks IN MY HEART , BACKING WITH JUST THE BACKING GIRLS ON?? MICK HAS THAT, ROCKY ROBERTS UK ISSUE, YOU BEEN CHEATING Inst, MY MONEY IS ANOTHER FRANK WILSON???:thumbsup: DAVE K

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i don't think an issue/demo on the same label would be that exciting

it must be - thought unreleased/missing label number/different label

after all this hype we've built up it better be worth it!!


Totally agree... must be more special than a rare issue or demo of already known tunes, he lists things like that almost every week!

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From JM Auction - what is the record going to be!!!

On Thursday this space will be taken by a NORTHERN SOUL 7" LEGEND! It seems I've been waiting ALL my life to even see a copy, it's now in my hands and I'm almost suffering from premature.... death. Thrilled wasn't the word when a little old couple flew to England came into my office and politely asked if we would you like to auction this 45 for them. Good job those statins work, I was instantly thinking "do they do Tena pants for men? This was a proper NS "Tutankhamen" moment for me, hopefully it will be for you too.




This must be some record to get John going, he's had them all in his time..
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a Frank Wilson issue would put the mockers on it....cos you all hate it Posted Image

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maybe a moses acetate via belgium.......Posted Image

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Fook me Bert, it's a Don Varner on Veep.

Even that Manskip bloke ain't seen one o'these, get on the phone to him quick and book a couple o'flights while yer at it.

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Couple flew to England must surely rule that one out :thumbsup:



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Think John's had an Inspirations himself for a short while?.How about a Jimmy Burns acetate?

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honeybees or just brothers on wand

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Could be another Frank Wilson - issue copy ??

Although my money is on an issue copy of the Anderson Brothers



Or even your avitar?... :thumbsup:

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we could all chip in and buy it. then cut it up so we each have a piece...and at the same time making it rarer :-)


I did something similar to that many years ago when I was young and stuipid :thumbsup: Now I'm just stupid :thumbsup:

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Thanks guys this is really fun, thanks for the interest.

Spanner just woke me from my Chardonny stuper, to ask what the hell it is - well the guesses so far are really great - The Frank Beverley on Rouser was a spooky one because we have one that was going to be next week's headliner - but for me personally, and many other old schools NS pensioners this Thursday unvailing will mean so much more... so preceeds Frankie for a week or two

It's not exclusive but 99% of NS collectors will not ever have seen it - there's is another copy - but this record has stood the test of time with 4 decades of myth building surrounding it's existence, The record itself is sublime Northern Soul, the clothes it's wearing is just pulsatingly fabulous... I'm a vinyl idiot and get excited by labels, sounds and condition... I've never had this record, ever and I don't mind admitting I've always dreamed of seeing, holding and being able to present it. Owning it would be unfair... as there are out there, vinyl-heads even more consumed by real rarity than me.

quick clue - If you were a sheep your boss would stop you bidding on it - if your a "Brit" and had to rely on it - you'd be let down.

Now that is just tooooo easy..

John

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Buncky ?

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Now that John has replied, will one our experts on here know it.............?

Thanks guys this is really fun, thanks for the interest.

Spanner just woke me from my Chardonny stuper, to ask what the hell it is - well the guesses so far are really great - The Frank Beverley on Rouser was a spooky one because we have one that was going to be next week's headliner - but for me personally, and many other old schools NS pensioners this Thursday unvailing will mean so much more... so preceeds Frankie for a week or two

It's not exclusive but 99% of NS collectors will not ever have seen it - there's is another copy - but this record has stood the test of time with 4 decades of myth building surrounding it's existence, The record itself is sublime Northern Soul, the clothes it's wearing is just pulsatingly fabulous... I'm a vinyl idiot and get excited by labels, sounds and condition... I've never had this record, ever and I don't mind admitting I've always dreamed of seeing, holding and being able to present it. Owning it would be unfair... as there are out there, vinyl-heads even more consumed by real rarity than me.

quick clue - If you were a sheep your boss would stop you bidding on it - if your a "Brit" and had to rely on it - you'd be let down.

Now that is just tooooo easy..

John



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YOU KNOW MORE THAN THE REST OF US, TAKE IT YOURE ON COMMISSION THEN :thumbsup:

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