[dave pinch]

i know this is one of the commonist northern 45`s. but what about the very first release on party time. is that realistically worth any thing.



dave

[Martin Smith]

Hi Dave,
I've seen it listed at £100
Martin

[dave pinch]

yes i think its in JM`s guide at that. and imagine if it wer`nt on any other label. gotta be rarer than the four perfections and of course what a two sider. sadly its common on 3 other labels...............so whats a real selling price

dave

[Flynny]

Fabulous full-on NS dance track with an all-time classic Youth Club killah on the flip!
Everyone must've owned a copy, or at least had a dance to the flipside over the years...timeless.
Here it is on two other labels, on rather nice demo copies of wihch I found the Showtime WD in a shop last Sunday!

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[Martin Smith]

Picked my Party Time copy up about 2 years ago from Pete Smith .......Cheers Pete.
Not seen it anywhere else for that price though.

Martin

[45cellar]

Party time, Quite Rare I would have thought with Very Limited copies ever pressed.
However price doesn't always reflect that. Got my copy from Soul Bowl.
Never seen a DEMO on Party time. Doesn't exist as far as I'm aware.

Seem to remember something about local Interest in this following the Initial release on Party time
the Reason for the Showtime release very soon after.

[Perception]

It was bootlegged on blue label Showtime as well!

[45cellar]

A few Re-issues too, certainly sold well over the years.

[ken]

And there is loads of different variations of the uk one, green,yellow,red and white swirls.

[Andy Rix]

Interesting to note my Frankford/Wayne acetate has the Showtime label details on

Andy

[john manship]

dave pinch, on 05 July 2011 - 01:14 PM, said:

i know this is one of the commonist northern 45`s. but what about the very first release on party time. is that realistically worth any thing.

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dave

Dave,
off the top of my head I think if you,
Check the dead wax I think you'll find Party Time is NOT the first label, it carries the Showtime matrix, think the value is in the fact it's infinitely rarer and looks so much better, especially next to the Four Perfections in your record box but it not the first label Showtime is. The dead wax matrix will confirm that - I feel sure

[ken]

Perception, on 05 July 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

It was bootlegged on blue label Showtime as well!

It wasn't was it?,got a shiny labelled one and a paper labelled one both with F/Wayne stamp's.

[john manship]

Perception, on 05 July 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

It was bootlegged on blue label Showtime as well!

Nope, it was a re-press, it used the same master plate as the first Showtime as did the Party time release I do hope I'm not gonna look a prat here 'cause this is all off the top of my head - but I did all the comparisons some years back so check those dead wax markings folks..l think you'll find it revealing.

[45cellar]

You're right John the Deadwax, the Frankford / Wayne acetate & the Beacon Label also have same.

Why or when was it issued on Party time, for some strange reason I was always told it was first but in small number.

[john manship]

I was of the same opinion for years, but was doing some dead wax delving checking out the two Showtime variations only to discover the Party Time press used the Showtime master plate ...ps for Andy R. Mike Terry played on this session ....dig out the baritone sax work in the background
Two great sides back to back I wanna give this some welly at the next Stute oldies set I do....classic Junior-life northern soul.

[45cellar]

Thanks John,

I had noticed the deadwax markings before on the Party time press,
wrongly assuming that the Initial batch pressed up locally by the brothers held the Party time Logo prior to the Showtime launch.

Really makes me wonder when or why the Party time Label was pressed.

[dave pinch]

i`m off to london to work today til the weekend. i`ll have a look at the matrix when i get home. i know its frank ford wayne stamped but ive never noticed the other markings. still not sure of a realistic price on it

dave

[sadsam]

Hi
Just pulled mine, frank/ford wayne stamped and it also shows STR-101A / STR-101B hence Showtime being the first . But with this said still very rare on parytime, becaue it had been a hit this could be the reason no promos. I think it's a fair value, it looks far better. I was lucky to pick this up last year at a car boot, mint copy for 50p SAM

[Simsy]

45cellar, on 05 July 2011 - 07:22 PM, said:

A few Re-issues too, certainly sold well over the years.

[ken]

Simsy, on 06 July 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

My first Nsoul record i ever got, about 72-3 just like this,from a junk shop in Liverpool

[our kid]

Don't know if this confuses the issue or confirms anything - had this on a Bell Sound test pressing with STR detailing on the label but the test pressing label was covering up a PartyTime one underneath!


Paul

[BIGSOULMAN]

ken, on 06 July 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:

My first Nsoul record i ever got, about 72-3 just like this,from a junk shop in Liverpool

You make me feel old Ken I bought this as a new release in 67



Lenny

[ken]

BIGSOULMAN, on 06 July 2011 - 01:23 PM, said:

You make me feel old Ken I bought this as a new release in 67



Lenny

You are !!


I was about 10 maybe 11, did not know anything N'soul at the time 2 year's later i'm doing Wigan

[Benji]

Here are a few euro picture covers. It came out twice in Germany but don't have pictures of either release at hand.

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[Steve L]

Karl Heard played houseparty at Burnley earlier this year in amongst a more up front set - sounded great.
Would love to hear what can a man do played out somewhere

[45cellar]

[MrC]

Didn't it come out on that UK "Cream" label as well?

There's also a great punk version of "Houseparty" by the Heavy Metal Kids

Edited by 60ssoulboy, 29 October 2011 - 02:43 PM.

[pikeys dog]

Try Cliff Richards version off his Live At The Talk Of The Town LP.

[selectasoul]

45cellar, on 05 July 2011 - 07:22 PM, said:

A few Re-issues too, certainly sold well over the years.

d

[45cellar]

Not sure how many covers of it, but here's another.

[Patto]

I have it on the UK Beacon Red Swirl one of the best looking labels ever.Is this the hardest of the Beacon releases ?

[MrC]

Further cover versions by:

Phil Fearon and Galaxy
J. Geils Band
Drunk Stuntmen

Seems to be as many cover versions as there were different label releases!

[ken]

And there is a French by "the music makers" version not sung in French i posted in refo-soul.

Edited by ken, 29 October 2011 - 04:05 PM.