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A little something posted by my daughter and very fitting for all to digest lets hope in God we never have to remember our friends in this way in our campaign to Save The Twisted Wheel.




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by: Lyrically Justified
Atb Irish

[mvb031259]

Please forgive me for keeping bumping this thread, but we need to try and make it as high profile as possible, we really need to try and save this club, as you can see from the thread on here the Greatstone club has been lost to the Soul community. Even if the Wheel is not your choice of music, please help the campaign as we are all into Soul music and the Wheels contribution to the Soul scene then and now should not be ignored nor lost forever. Think of colleagues you can e-mail this link to, http://www.change.or...gends-nightclub it will take seconds to sign, yours and your friends contribution will be invaluable in the fight to keep this historic club open. So come on one and all, Please send that link to every Soulie in your address book, as I have said it will only take seconds to send the link and seconds to sign. It will go straight to Manchester City Council and they will be forced to Listen......

Regards Mike....

[proudlove]

The Greatstone has not been lost,one of the two nights a month is closing due to low turnouts.

[mvb031259]

proudlove, on 21 February 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

The Greatstone has not been lost,one of the two nights a month is closing due to low turnouts.

My apologies, I was trying to make the point another event had gone

[daveyboy66]

just to bump this...keep on pushing....

http://www.change.or...gends-nightclub

[mvb031259]

The campaign to save the club is moving but slowly, sadly too slowly in my opinion. To save this club will be a massive battle and will only be won by public support.
The joint Legends/Wheel campaign has 2,415 signatures as I write, simply not enough. The separate campaign petitioning the 13 people who should be on the planning committee is not quantifiable but I would guess would be in the hundreds at best.
The best way to get support is from the Soul community, and in my opinion radio shows are a massive outlet as most soulies are avid listeners of Soul radio stations.
So to simplify things, as we can only presume we are making things to complex (i.e try reading this out or remembering it as most people don't have a pen handy when listening to their chosen show http://www.change.or...gends-nightclub frankly impossible) try putting this web site to your favourite show, it can be easily remembered mancunianmatters.co.uk, if listeners then simply type in Twisted Wheel on that sites search facility it will take them to a page on the Wheels plight, with a link on the bottom to the Legends/Wheel campaign which they can sign.
If we are to have a hope of saving this Historic club we all need to do more, I can't see the point of joining this thread if you are not prepared to help, so come on all on here, get onto your local radio show and just ask them to read out the mancunianmaters link, if they don't then ask them again. To send a simple e-mail will take minutes surely not a lot to ask so please help. Also please consider sending everyone in your address book the legends link, cut and paste http://www.change.or...gends-nightclub send..... job done ......

Edited by mvb031259, 25 February 2012 - 10:01 AM.

[Tony Smith]

Sorry to jump in late, but mirroring the 100 club the year before last has anyone contacted any of the high profile names that played the TW, I'm thinking John Mayall, Spencer Davis. It helped the 100 club, unfortunately the TW is no longer a live music venue, any future interest should look at that.

[mvb031259]

Tony Smith, on 26 February 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Sorry to jump in late, but mirroring the 100 club the year before last has anyone contacted any of the high profile names that played the TW, I'm thinking John Mayall, Spencer Davis. It helped the 100 club, unfortunately the TW is no longer a live music venue, any future interest should look at that.

Some people on FB are trying to contact artists who have performed there in the past and any other celebrities who may put their weight behind the campaign. Chris Farlow (who has sung live @ the Wheel in 2010 and 2011) is in the FB group.
Pete has approached in the past many artists who performed at the club with a limited response, in fact Spencer Davies was very dismissive of the Wheel saying it's too far in the past for me to even remember so don't think he will offer much help......

I have just been speaking to Pete on the phone, there is some confusion going around with regards to a planning meeting on March 15th. This is not true at least up to yet, at this moment in time the Olympian group have submitted no plans for approval, they still have their architects around the club making plans. When they do put in their plans they will have to follow procedure like anyone else i.e notices in local papers, on lamposts etc. So there is still plenty of time for the campaign.
Pete has done an interview along with Barry Tasker, Albert Heron and others he put forward about the club and it's plight for the independent newspaper, which will be published soon. He is just hopeful they print what he wants to further the campaign and it is better represented than the TV interview he did recently, though this did have a great effect of getting the Wheels plight in the public eye.
Pete thanks everyone for their efforts and like he said we just have to keep going and do what we all can to keep that fantastic club open.

[dthedrug]

HI ALL... I DID SAY , THAT YOU NEED A GOOD ACTIVIST TO GET THINGS GOING! & THAT PERSON SHOULD COME FROM THE CITY of MANCHESTER, WITH CONTACTS?

IF THIS IS DONE! I WILL BE PROACTIVE, IF YOU HAVE JUST 10 PEOPLE, TO GO TO THE WHEEL WITH MEDIA KNOWLAGE, THIS TIME IN 7 DAYS THE WHOLE OF THE UK WILL BE AWARE, IF THE 2 FOOTBALL TEAMS GET SOPPORT? THE CLOSING DOWN OF THE TWISTED WHEEL. SHOULD GET MUCH MORE??
AS ALWAYS DAVE K

[mvb031259]

Pete Roberts has had Chris Farlow on his radio show tonight in the second hour. Chris is fully supporting the campaign as you would expect of a fantastic professional such as himself. For anyone interested who missed the show it can be accessed on the listen again facility http://www.northmanchesterfm.org/

[mvb031259]

It's weekend radio shows so please consider phoning in and getting your local radio show to push the Legends/Wheel campaign below, as I've said its easier to remember put across like this......
So to simplify things, as we can only presume we are making things to complex (i.e try reading this out or remembering it as most people don't have a pen handy when listening to their chosen show http://www.change.or...gends-nightclub frankly impossible) try putting this web site to your favourite show, it can be easily remembered mancunianmatters.co.uk, if listeners then simply type in Twisted Wheel on that sites search facility it will take them to a page on the Wheels plight, with a link on the bottom to the Legends/Wheel campaign which they can sign.

[mvb031259]

Pete Roberts on the Wheel taken from today's Independent Newspaper:

http://www.independe...ul-7499756.html

Pete has asked me to pass on his Sincere Thanks to everyone who is fighting to keep this Iconic club open.

[spike1]

Nice work. Berni all we can do is keep petitioning sending emails to the planning committee and trying to get some heavy weight Celebs onside

Keep on keepin on

[mvb031259]

spike1, on 04 March 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

Nice work. Berni all we can do is keep petitioning sending emails to the planning committee and trying to get some heavy weight Celebs onside

Keep on keepin on

Hi Spike, it's not Bernard it's Mike, thanks for your comments.
One thing of note, I have it from 2 official sources that the lobbying of the planning committee is essential BUT should not start until planning application has been applied for (which makes sense rally as they may not be on the committee as and when Olympian apply,or they will have probably forgotten about objections sent 2,3 or even 4 months before the committee sit to consider that application) it should then be structured and personally written to have the most effect, not downloaded and the same message sent by everyone. So from that angle we really need to wait for Olympian to apply.
See you Sunday Mate ......

[mvb031259]

Hi to all interested. An idea has been put forward (by Irish)....., what about all the people who may be interested who do not have a computer, or don't use forums?
So to address this a paper petition titled "Save Legends the home of the twisted Wheel" has been done. What we are hoping is that when people go to their local Soul events or the likes, where we know we can get support they will take with them the petition document (hopefully loads of them) and put them on the door for people who have not signed on line petitions to sign and put their weight behind the campaign.
If anyone is interested please p.m myself or Irish with your e-mail address and we will send you the document in an attached file to print and then photo copy.

Regards
Mike.....

[spike1]

mvb031259, on 05 March 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Hi Spike, it's not Bernard it's Mike, thanks for your comments.
One thing of note, I have it from 2 official sources that the lobbying of the planning committee is essential BUT should not start until planning application has been applied for (which makes sense rally as they may not be on the committee as and when Olympian apply,or they will have probably forgotten about objections sent 2,3 or even 4 months before the committee sit to consider that application) it should then be structured and personally written to have the most effect, not downloaded and the same message sent by everyone. So from that angle we really need to wait for Olympian to apply.
See you Sunday Mate ......

Ok sorry mike ill becoming over them Pennines to see you meryy mancs on Sunday
;)
Keep up the good work

[Irish Spinner]

On behalf of The Twisted Wheel club, Manchester...
Some good news for Twisted Wheel supporters and hard working campaigner's, an application for listing was submitted to English Heritage, today we received the good news that the application has been validated and an initial assessment for designation for listing will take place. This is to assess the applications content in meeting the criteria necessary for English Heritage to put forward the application for listing to the DCMS, The Under Secretary of State for Tourism & Heritage for approval to list The Twisted Wheel.
Please note, this process could take up to 6 months from the time of application to the final decision on listing. This one element of our campaign is now in the hands of English Heritage but there are many more fronts we can and will continue with to save The Twisted Wheel

.Atb Irish

Edited by Irish Spinner, 25 April 2012 - 08:46 PM.

[spike1]

Great effort Irish you deserve a huge pat on the back for all your work
Hope to see you down in THAT cellar on Friday

Ktf spike

Edited by spike1, 26 April 2012 - 06:45 AM.

[chris dredge]

Played there about 1966. Back-up to Gladys Knight & The Pips.

[Irish Spinner]

chris dredge, on 04 May 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Played there about 1966. Back-up to Gladys Knight & The Pips.

Are you sure you have the right venue for Gladys Knight & The Pips .If you have any pics of Soul bands or singers you have backed up, taken in the 60s/70s please post them as it would be great to see them.

Atb Irish

[Irish Spinner]

Please support the Save The Twisted Wheel Campaign by objecting to the proposed planning application to demolish
The Twisted Wheel and replace it with a 330 room hotel. The Twisted Wheel is one of the mile stones of our musical heritage in the U.K, so please, let's try and keep it that way. Please give your support to this campaign.

1. Register and post a public comment on the Public Access site, objecting to the demolition plans for the Wheelhttp://pa.manchester....pe=Application

2. Compose a "letter of objection" to Motel Ones plans and send it to Manchester City Councils Case Officer (John Kelsey) for the planning application, his e-mail address is j.kelsey@manchester.gov.uk

3. Send a "letter of objection" to all these councillors listed below. They are the councillors who will sit at the planning meeting (penciled in for the 28th June).If you have previously e-mailed any of them just copy them in anyway to remind them.

Thank you for your email, as requested please find enclosed the Members of the Planning and Highways Committee email address's.

cllr.a.kamal@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.a.ahmed@manchester.go.uk
cllr.a.fender@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.b.curly@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.d.ellison@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.h.lyons@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.j.flanagan@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.j.keller@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.m.watson@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.m.loughman@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.n.ali@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.n.siddiqi@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.n.lewis@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.p.andrews@manchester.gov.uk
cllr.shaukat.ali@manchester.gov.uk

Kind regards

Lee Walker
Governance Officer
Governance and Scrutiny Support Team
Manchester City Council
Room 403
Town Hall
Albert Square
Manchester M60 2LA

If anyone needs any help to compose a letter (please make it individual and personal to have the most impact) use some of these Guidance notes

Guidance for a formal letter of objection to the planning application.
A full and comprehensive letter should include some if not all of the following.
A. Quote planning reference number, brief details of the proposal name of the applicant.....099250/FO/2012/C2
B. Base your arguments on known facts.
C. Be as brief, specific and concise as possible
1 Development Plans for Manchester, Core Strategy (CS) Local Development Frame work (LDF), National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF)
2. Special designations... Conflict of conservation area....Over shadowing a Grade11* listed building, Damage to historic or architecture
3. Loosing socially beneficial uses i.e The Wheel and Legends. The loss of community both locally and the greater national Soul coumminty .....
4. Site considerations....... Excessive bulk or scale..... Introducing unnatural features........ Incompatible with the design of existing buildings....
5. Blocking natural daylight..Shadows cast by such a structure.approx 150ft in hight....
6. Better alternative sites available i.e fire station abandoned by Britannia Hotels
7. Adverse effects on local economy and business i.e job losses,business closeures including a hotel other hotels.loss of business.
8. Loss of the many thousands visitors who travel from over the U.K and Europe to visit the Home of Soul in the U.K the oldest, the first and the Last surviving 60s Club in its original surroundings is The Twisted Wheel.

On behalf of Save The Twisted Wheel campaign

Atb Irish Spinner

[Roburt]

I have submitted an objection to the planning application.You have to register 1st, await a confirmation e-mail & then submit your comments. A bit 'long winded' but I still thought it worth the effort.

[Tezza]

Mark S, on 08 February 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

C,mon get a grip whats so sad its only a crappy old building The Twised wheel closed in the early seventies and no amount of calling it the Wheel alters that fact .
People have had thirty odd years to come up with an appropriate way of marking the huge impact the club had and have failed to do so .
But I suppose the greatest legacy the Wheel has left is the enduring soul scene and that is more important than mourning the demise of some bricks and mortar .

Not been for years so decided to call in on The Wheel a couple of Months ago.Its time to let go and leave the old lady to pass away in peace. Clinging to a memory that has long gone. The Wheel led the way for others to then carry the Flag such as The Torch, The Casino etc. Its not The Wheel any more, its an old semi derilict building that is in desperate need of either restoration or the wrecking ball.Let us bow our heads and remember .....

[mickeyfish58]

Tezza, on 23 May 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

Not been for years so decided to call in on The Wheel a couple of Months ago.Its time to let go and leave the old lady to pass away in peace. Clinging to a memory that has long gone. The Wheel led the way for others to then carry the Flag such as The Torch, The Casino etc. Its not The Wheel any more, its an old semi derilict building that is in desperate need of either restoration or the wrecking ball.Let us bow our heads and remember .....

if people still enjoy the wheel then let them instead of all the usual slagging off and negative comments that people are so quick to post on here
and that goes about anything and not just comments about the wheel in my opinion the wheel is still a great place to visit. and frequent= no politics no misery guts, just people having a great time like they should be. every time i go to the wheel the atmosphere is fantastic music is bril and the crowd very happy.

[Roburt]

I went to an allnighter at the Wheel last year (1st one I'd been to there for about 41 years) and had a great time.
If we can't save the Wheel building then why don't we just shut all the industrial museums, wreck all the old water / wind mills, blow up all the old canal aquaducts and rip up all the preserved railways.
After all; they're only for people 'living in the past' (while we're at it, may as well melt down all the old 45's, coz now you can get all the tracks digitally).

[mickeyfish58]

Roburt, on 23 May 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

I went to an allnighter at the Wheel last year (1st one I'd been to there for about 41 years) and had a great time.
If we can't save the Wheel building then why don't we just shut all the industrial museums, wreck all the old water / wind mills, blow up all the old canal aquaducts and rip up all the preserved railways.
After all; they're only for people 'living in the past' (while we're at it, may as well melt down all the old 45's, coz now you can get all the tracks digitally).

and shoot anybody over the age of 50[well the moaning ones anyway]

[Mark S]

Forty years to sort something out and now we should all start caring .

[Tezza]

mickeyfish58, on 23 May 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

if people still enjoy the wheel then let them instead of all the usual slagging off and negative comments that people are so quick to post on here
and that goes about anything and not just comments about the wheel in my opinion the wheel is still a great place to visit. and frequent= no politics no misery guts, just people having a great time like they should be. every time i go to the wheel the atmosphere is fantastic music is bril and the crowd very happy.

I am not slagging off Mickey.
When my Dad died he was a shadow of the Man I grew up with and looked up to and seeing him in that condition is my last memory of him. A once powerful man ravaged by a terrible desease and left him a shell. The Wheel, the building, is but a shell and deteriorated to a state where it looks like a squat. If it closes tomorrow it will be my final memorie of a once great club. The Music will live on in our hearts and we share the memories with our friends. I'm not dissing the Music, The Atmosphere, The Punters etc I just dont want to see it fade away and leave a sad picture behind.
Love and respect to all the guys and girls that are keeping it alive but the Life Support Machines batteries are waning and the light is only kept glowing through the good intentions of honest people like yourself.
If it can be saved and 'restored' hurrah, but if it is to go then so be it.
I suppose I should really take heed and rethink my stratogies. Join the masses and save her - perhaps !!

[mickeyfish58]

i respect your opinions and your above comments .
i wasnt realy having a go at you but mainly was having a go at people that just seem to come on here and see nothing but the negative in everything
. = were they bullied at school or just unable to get a word in at home because of the missus ?

[mike]

mickeyfish58, on 23 May 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

i respect your opinions and your above comments .
i wasnt realy having a go at you but mainly was having a go at people that just seem to come on here and see nothing but the negative in everything
. = were they bullied at school or just unable to get a word in at home because of the missus ?

in this thread people have posted a wide varied range of views, offering support, advice, various views etc

just cause some members views may not be the same as yours or others it doesn't automatically give you the right to start knocking the people making them

you are just doing exactly what you are moaning about

idea is that we talk about the actual subject not the people talking about it

so ask can we drop this bitching and get back to the original subject

thanks!

Edited by mike, Today, 09:13 AM.
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