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Are There Red-Label Fame James Barnett Boots?

Started by weingarden Jan 22 2012 06:10 PM
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   #1 weingarden

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 06:10 PM



Are there genuine-looking boots of "Keep On Talking" on red Fame floating around?

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   #2 weingarden

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 06:53 PM

Reason I ask is that I was playing mine out last night and someone looked at it and said "That must be a boot."

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 06:58 PM

View Postweingarden, on 22 January 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

Reason I ask is that I was playing mine out last night and someone looked at it and said "That must be a boot."

how well does the person know you? lolololol
im sure there is

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   #4 Supercorsa

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:06 PM

I didn't think there was red boots. Thought the boots were light blue with gold print, like the one I purchased at Feltham market about 30 years ago!

Edited by Supercorsa, 22 January 2012 - 07:07 PM.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:10 PM

View PostSupercorsa, on 22 January 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

I didn't think there was red boots. Thought the boots were light blue with gold print, like the one I purchased at Feltham market about 30 years ago!

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are you on about your underpants or the record?
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:19 PM

Red issue on Vinyl not styrene = Original.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:36 PM

View Postdazdakin, on 22 January 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

Red issue on Vinyl not styrene = Original.

I'm pretty sure that there's a west coast Monarch (i.e. styrene) press of 'Keep On Talking', isn't there?

Blue and gold the only boot that I'm aware of...
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:38 PM

dunno how to post a pic but heres a link to a copy tony


http://www.ebay.co.u...-All-Categories

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 07:40 PM

heres a link to a completed listing on ebay showing the original and the boot which went for 30 quid


http://www.ebay.co.u...d=p3286.c0.m283

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 08:34 PM

View PostTONY ROUNCE, on 22 January 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure that there's a west coast Monarch (i.e. styrene) press of 'Keep On Talking', isn't there?

Blue and gold the only boot that I'm aware of...


According to Mr Manship Red Issues and WDJ copies done in both Vinyl and Styrene!! :yes: :yes:
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:56 PM

Okay, mine looks identical to the red one in the closed auction, so maybe my friend was mistaken. Thanks for the info.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:55 PM

A quick look at popsike shows at least three different genuine red issue pressings of this 45.

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^The MGM vinyl press.

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^The Bestway vinyl press.

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^The Monarch styrene press.

There are corresponding white dj copies for all these presses of the record. The only bootleg copies listed on popsike are the light blue / gold label version mentioned in the posts above.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 11:52 PM

:hatsoff2: Hi All All the Red FAME records are proper, unless it has been recently copied? the Blue & Gold Boot has always puzzled me as the sound quality is as good as the Red Copy? and a lot of trouble went into it compared to records that were booted at the same time, WHY? I have no idea but I have often wondered if it is a legit 2nd press rather than a boot, because of this, Does anyone no the full story :g: DAVE 60 :g:

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 01:43 AM

It's a good question Dave, and your comment about the amount of effort that went into it compared to Northern boots of the time is an interesting one. I wonder if it was done for the Dutch deep soul scene of the 70s as opposed to the UK scene. Some of their boots (e.g. Ralph 'Soul' Jackson on SOB) were pretty accurate facsimiles.

The typesetting on the light blue label boot is as per the Bestway press demo, interestingly without the Atco distribution line of the original. Anyone know if these were ever passed off as some kind of local issue?

I've never owned the boot but would be interested to know what marks or numbers are in the run-out and if they tally with any marks on the legitimate presses. Atlantic-Atco distributed records should have some quite easily identifiable mastering marks. If this was pressed from the same plates it might in theory also have some of the same marks.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:40 AM

This is what is in the run-out of my blue boot.

At 6 o'clock: Fame 1001-9819 (scratched in)
At 3 o'clock: A Triangle type symbol followed by /0/3// (all of this has been crossed out)
Between these is a small crossed out symbol/dot.

Unfortunately I don't have a red copy to compare with :( .
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:26 PM

View Postweingarden, on 22 January 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

Are there genuine-looking boots of "Keep On Talking" on red Fame floating around?
No.
I know of two different USA dealers that have had various original Fame records in quantity. Unplayed warehouse stock. The red label James Barnetts were among them.

Edited by Perception, 24 March 2012 - 09:28 PM.





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