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J J Jackson - Oo Ma Li Di - Prelude Or Storm

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   #1 denbo

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 10:13 AM



Does anybody know when this was released? What year?
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 10:36 AM

View Postdenbo, on 05 February 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

Does anybody know when this was released? What year?
Also demo only on Candix circa 1961

Edited by Rbman, 05 February 2012 - 12:06 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 02:01 PM

View PostRbman, on 05 February 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Also demo only on Candix circa 1961

Hey Martin, How's things with you? Recovering suitably well I hope?
Thanks for the info. I'd forgotten it also came out on Candix and after checking the label dicography, I see it's not listed, as your snippet of info would support. However, how do you know it was a circa '61 release, or non-release as the case may be?
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 02:05 PM

If it's got a Monarch master number in the run off between roughly 37400 and 42000 it would indicate a 1961 release date.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 04:13 PM

View Postpikeys dog, on 05 February 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

If it's got a Monarch master number in the run off between roughly 37400 and 42000 it would indicate a 1961 release date.

Thanks Joe.
So, who can confirm this for me (us)?
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:30 PM

View Postdenbo, on 05 February 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:



Thanks Joe.
So, who can confirm this for me (us)?
As far as I recall the Candix label was not pressed by Monarch . Surfin' by the beach boys on the label was released in 1961 and the label went bust early 1962 so that's why I guess 1961.

Edited by Rbman, 05 February 2012 - 05:32 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:39 PM

i dont think the prelude copy is that early..it does have a delta stamp...ive sold mine so i dont have it to hand...1965 i think

Edited by dave pinch, 05 February 2012 - 05:40 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:14 PM

View PostRbman, on 05 February 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

As far as I recall the Candix label was not pressed by Monarch . Surfin' by the beach boys on the label was released in 1961 and the label went bust early 1962 so that's why I guess 1961.

Cheers pal, I'll go with that.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:00 AM

The recording sounds way too old in acoustics and song-writing style to be from 1965. I bought those Storm records in about 1962. I guessed they were released in 1961 or 1962. The Prelude release is likely just a re-issue of J.J. and The Jackals, June Jackson put out in 1965 to try to cash in on his local popularity. He was making some appearences in the L.A. area then (which got him his contract with Imperial). Does anyone here know who owned Prelude Records?

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:44 AM

......well i suppose i was saying something along those lines..the candix and storm releases may stem from 1961/62 but the prelude one is a few years down the line 64/5 0r even 66

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:27 AM

Billboard Music Week dated January 23 1961 (page 18) is a paid advert for a number or Storm label releases (noted as distributed by Candix) which includes J J Jackson (501 label number) .
therefore I suggest it was released late 1960 because it is referred to as a smash hit!

Edited by Rbman, 06 February 2012 - 10:28 AM.

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:34 AM

View PostRbman, on 06 February 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

Billboard Music Week dated January 23 1961 (page 18) is a paid advert for a number or Storm label releases (noted as distributed by Candix) which includes J J Jackson (501 label number) .
therefore I suggest it was released late 1960 because it is referred to as a smash hit!

Thanks again Martin.

You out and about yet? Back at work?
Whichever, take care pal.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:36 AM

View PostRobbK, on 06 February 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

The recording sounds way too old in acoustics and song-writing style to be from 1965. I bought those Storm records in about 1962. I guessed they were released in 1961 or 1962. The Prelude release is likely just a re-issue of J.J. and The Jackals, June Jackson put out in 1965 to try to cash in on his local popularity. He was making some appearences in the L.A. area then (which got him his contract with Imperial). Does anyone here know who owned Prelude Records?

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:46 AM

View Postdenbo, on 06 February 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:



Thanks again Martin.

You out and about yet? Back at work?
Whichever, take care pal.
Do you think I can spend time researching historic BIllboards if I was back to work! I'm still off with my ipad close to hand :-)
Thanks for asking.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:47 AM

View PostRobbK, on 06 February 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

The recording sounds way too old in acoustics and song-writing style to be from 1965. I bought those Storm records in about 1962. I guessed they were released in 1961 or 1962. The Prelude release is likely just a re-issue of J.J. and The Jackals, June Jackson put out in 1965 to try to cash in on his local popularity. He was making some appearences in the L.A. area then (which got him his contract with Imperial). Does anyone here know who owned Prelude Records?

Wasn't Prelude a Philly based reissue kinda label?
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:48 AM

View PostRbman, on 06 February 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

Do you think I can spend time researching historic BIllboards if I was back to work!

I thought that's what you did at work all day anyhow? :wicked: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:03 AM

http://books.google.... 23 1961&f=true


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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:06 AM

View Postdenbo, on 06 February 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

Wasn't Prelude a Philly based reissue kinda label?
The JJ Jackson Prelude label was west coast (L.A.?) based, same as Mac Staten "There she goes".

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:25 AM

View PostBenji, on 06 February 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

The JJ Jackson Prelude label was west coast (L.A.?) based, same as Mac Staten "There she goes".

Thanks for clearing that up.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:19 PM

Prelude was indeed H B's label
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