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What does anyone think - lighter fuel used to be the thing most people recommended, what about nail varnish remover, something like that? The last thing I want to do is discolour the rest of the label though. Any help appreciated.

[tonyp]

I'd be very wary of nail varnish remover-lighter fuel seems to do the trick usually, like you say.


Tony

[pikeys dog]

Scotch 3M used to make a fluid similar to lighter fuel but better for the task - it was designed for Graphic Artists to use on Acetate sheets for removing ink and adhesive residue without damage - it was called something like Clean Art.

Edited by pikeys dog, 06 February 2012 - 04:37 PM.

[pikeys dog]

How about one of these?

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cbc94b7b2

Should be able to get one from your local art supplies shop.

[MrC]

You could gently blow a hair dryer over it then just rub/roll it off.
Isopropyl Alcohol is good for cleaning most things - used to be sold as cassette player head cleaning fluid among other things

[garethx]

A tiny amount of surgical spirit on 100% cotton wool, although in scan above the adhesive has seemingly already caused the coating of the paper to lift away slightly.

The surgical spirit should remove the glue residue so the label is cleaner but I couldn't guarantee that it will produce a result which gives the appearance of the record never having been stickered.

As always test on something of no value.

[MrC]

Check this from the NE Document Conservation Organization, some great advice on cleaning various marks/residue from paper surfaces.

http://www.nedcc.org...aceCleaning.php

[dave pinch]

white spirit works everytime with tacky sticker marks..not sure about sellotape thats been on 30 odd years tho

Edited by dave pinch, 06 February 2012 - 06:32 PM.

[rotherham soul]

pikeys dog, on 06 February 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

Scotch 3M used to make a fluid similar to lighter fuel but better for the task - it was designed for Graphic Artists to use on Acetate sheets for removing ink and adhesive residue without damage - it was called something like Clean Art.

That's the stuff Joe,Ray Hudson swore by it,still got a couple of cans he gave me

[Tony A]

Pete S, on 06 February 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

What does anyone think - lighter fuel used to be the thing most people recommended, what about nail varnish remover, something like that? The last thing I want to do is discolour the rest of the label though. Any help appreciated.

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Reds the worst colour for trying any cleaning around, be carefull,

or don't bother trying to remove staining and give it me in current condition, I don't mind.

[dthedrug]

Pete I would advice you to think! before you use some of the above methods, they may well work, However the record is a PYE
And the labels will look dreadful if you put any thinner type liquid on for more than 2 seconds, I would suggest a thin paint brush dabbed in lighter fuel cover the area a bit by bit approach dust with a dust or fag ash on sticky or tacky surface then suck of with vacuum cleaner however you do it, it will still show up darker once removed, on PYE labels RED ATLANTICS and some POLYDOR labels, if you are selling the record leave it to the buyer, as a sticker mark will only knock about £15 of a rare British 45, but a poor attempt to deceive the buyer could not 50% of the same record,
As I say think first if any of the above are known to work on a PYE label. I would also like to no? my tip for everyone is look at web pages that do fine art restorations? DAVE

[boba]

pikeys dog, on 06 February 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

How about one of these?

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cbc94b7b2

Should be able to get one from your local art supplies shop.

it says "citrus base", I think citrus-based gunk removers are also sold as "gum-out"

[Tai-Pan]

Pete, there is a product that you can buy from Lakeland and other online retailers, its called

"Sticky Stuff Remover" just google it, theres loads of retailers on line.

I've used it many many times and hit works. Like all wet things you put on labels, the darken them slightly, however this product dries and leaves no marks.

[boba]

Tai-Pan, on 07 February 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

Pete, there is a product that you can buy from Lakeland and other online retailers, its called

"Sticky Stuff Remover" just google it, theres loads of retailers on line.

I've used it many many times and hit works. Like all wet things you put on labels, the darken them slightly, however this product dries and leaves no marks.

This is probably the citrus-based remover.

[allnightandy]

pikeys dog, on 06 February 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

How about one of these?

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cbc94b7b2

Should be able to get one from your local art supplies shop.

You must be able to get them over here , This guy wants $20 postage !

[Steve Lane]

Tai-Pan, on 07 February 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

Pete, there is a product that you can buy from Lakeland and other online retailers, its called

"Sticky Stuff Remover" just google it, theres loads of retailers on line.

I've used it many many times and hit works. Like all wet things you put on labels, the darken them slightly, however this product dries and leaves no marks.

Thats citrus based and works very well, will not damage the label at all.

[boba]

Steve Lane, on 07 February 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

Thats citrus based and works very well, will not damage the label at all.

although in my experience it initially looks like you've damaged the label (looks like you've spilled oil on it or something) and you can start to panic thinking you ruined it, but it actually goes away in like a day.

[Pete S]

Tai-Pan, on 07 February 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

Pete, there is a product that you can buy from Lakeland and other online retailers, its called

"Sticky Stuff Remover" just google it, theres loads of retailers on line.

I've used it many many times and hit works. Like all wet things you put on labels, the darken them slightly, however this product dries and leaves no marks.

I've actually got some of this already, now why didn't I think of that!
(Thanks to everyone who has offered advice by the way)

[Pete S]

Sticky Stuff Remover didn't work and has a left a huge stain on the label, fingers crossed it will dry out!

[garethx]

Go to Boots or any chemist and buy a bottle of Surgical Spirit. It's under a quid and performs exactly the same function as expensively packaged versions of Isopropyl Alcohol / Ethanol sold to the art or craft market. It contains none of the pollutants of lighter fluid.

[boba]

garethx, on 07 February 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

Go to Boots or any chemist and buy a bottle of Surgical Spirit. It's under a quid and performs exactly the same function as expensively packaged versions of Isopropyl Alcohol / Ethanol sold to the art or craft market. It contains none of the pollutants of lighter fluid.

I responded to this but then my soul source connection died. I looked up what "surgical spirit" was (apparently a UK thing) and it's just a combination of Ethyl Alcohol and Isopropyl Alcohol. In my experience alcohol is not the best way to remove adhesives, you basically end up scrubbing the label and scrub off some of the label in addition to the adhesive.

Lighter fluid is a totally different organic solvent (Naphtha) that will dissolve totally different things than alcohol. I would definitely be careful about getting it on styrene though as I have dissolved styrene with other organic solvents before (specifically paint thinner). I think it's more effective than alcohol in removing adhesives though. I also don't know what "pollutants" you are referring to, it's one chemical. It is more toxic though if that's what you meant and I think it has the tendency to gum up if not cleaned up afterwards.

The citrus-based cleaner is specifically advertised for removing adhesives left over. You should try that first.

Edited by boba, 08 February 2012 - 03:13 AM.

[boba]

Pete S, on 07 February 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

Sticky Stuff Remover didn't work and has a left a huge stain on the label, fingers crossed it will dry out!

This is what I was referring to, it will disappear after a day.

I once used it to get an 8x10 photo that was glued onto some cardboard off and I was pissed off that it looked permanently stained. It was gone the next day though.

It's too bad it didn't work. I would try lighter fluid next.

[Pete S]

As Bob says above, thankfully the giant stain has disappeared after 24 hours but the sellotape stains remain. I'm now wondering if there is any actual residue to remove or is it just a stain on the actual paper which will never come off, here's a better photo.

[boba]

It doesn't look like stain on the paper but ancient adhesive residue that has hardened. I thought you were talking about adhesive from a sticker that had recently been removed.

That stuff is like impossible to get off. I'm sure there's some way to get some of it off, but I have no idea how. I'm trying to think if there's some other field where people have to deal with the same issue where you could ask (e.g. book collectors????). I would even try the surgical spirits at this point, but I don't think it will work either. Worth a try though.

[Pete S]

boba, on 08 February 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

It doesn't look like stain on the paper but ancient adhesive residue that has hardened. I thought you were talking about adhesive from a sticker that had recently been removed.

That stuff is like impossible to get off. I'm sure there's some way to get some of it off, but I have no idea how. I'm trying to think if there's some other field where people have to deal with the same issue where you could ask (e.g. book collectors????). I would even try the surgical spirits at this point, but I don't think it will work either. Worth a try though.

No, sorry, didn't mean fresh residue, like you say, it's probably been on there for 30 odd years

[MrC]

Pete S, on 08 February 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

No, sorry, didn't mean fresh residue, like you say, it's probably been on there for 30 odd years

Document restorers are the best people to ask, could probably contact somebody through the local library, or there's a lot of 'em out in webland!

[Pete S]

Ah sod it, I'll just leave it, it's not gonna make a lot of difference anyway and it certainly doesn't affect the sound quality, I just really miss my beautiful mint copy which I sold to Nige Brown a couple of years back, I'd managed to hold on to it while selling every other decent record I owned then one day I ran out of decent records to sell - hence my delight in getting this copy, cheap!

[Gene-R]

I've had caked-in sellotape stains like that on LP covers - easy to clean off laminated LP covers with a bit of lighter fuel and loads of elbow grease, but not worth the risk of tearing record labels with the same sort of pressure.

Personally, if it doesn't come off in a light clean with lighter fuel, I'd leave it as it is.

[boba]

Gene-R, on 08 February 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

I've had caked-in sellotape stains like that on LP covers - easy to clean off laminated LP covers with a bit of lighter fuel and loads of elbow grease, but not worth the risk of tearing record labels with the same sort of pressure.

Personally, if it doesn't come off in a light clean with lighter fuel, I'd leave it as it is.

It would be pretty cool to know how to remove it, even if it's not worth the effort. Anyone know a document restorer forum?

[Sleeps45]

try some of this http://www.amazon.co...Y1F053W7Z014ZC9

of course on a cheap tester record 1st..