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I bought a copy recently and the chap I bought it off knew the history and the people who produced it, thought you might find this snippet of information interesting...

Larry Allen was from Greensburg, PA. Jerry Reed, who owned the label, had 1000 copies pressed. 500 as Larry Allen and 500 as L. Allen. It was released in the fall of 1965.
Jerry got frustrated because the record didn't sell and at the time he had an old car that he was junking, and he threw around 900 copies of the record into the trunk to be crushed and remelted.

[Barry]

Pete-S, on Mar 15 2007, 10:47 AM, said:

I bought a copy recently and the chap I bought it off knew the history and the people who produced it, thought you might find this snippet of information interesting...

Larry Allen was from Greensburg, PA. Jerry Reed, who owned the label, had 1000 copies pressed. 500 as Larry Allen and 500 as L. Allen. It was released in the fall of 1965.
Jerry got frustrated because the record didn't sell and at the time he had an old car that he was junking, and he threw around 900 copies of the record into the trunk to be crushed and remelted.

Ouch!!

Love it.

[soulsalmon]

Pete-S, on Mar 15 2007, 10:47 AM, said:

I bought a copy recently and the chap I bought it off knew the history and the people who produced it, thought you might find this snippet of information interesting...

Larry Allen was from Greensburg, PA. Jerry Reed, who owned the label, had 1000 copies pressed. 500 as Larry Allen and 500 as L. Allen. It was released in the fall of 1965.
Jerry got frustrated because the record didn't sell and at the time he had an old car that he was junking, and he threw around 900 copies of the record into the trunk to be crushed and remelted.

Pete theres a bit about this in theres that beat in the pittsburg article,real name Larry namee,done in 1/2 hr fom writing to recording

[the dukester]

DID IT HAPPEN?

DID THEY GO TO THE CRUSHER??

If I remember correctly I sold a copy I had to Trev Thomas and his amazing sideburns!!!

[trev thomas]

the dukester, on Mar 15 2007, 02:52 PM, said:

DID IT HAPPEN?

DID THEY GO TO THE CRUSHER??

If I remember correctly I sold a copy I had to Trev Thomas and his amazing sideburns!!!

hey...you leave my amazing sideburns out of this.....still got it mate....and the sideburns

[Val (Chunky)]

it's a pitty the 1,000 didn't get to the crusher imo

[Simon M]

Is that Chas and Dave on the organ

[Stuart T]

Chunky, on Mar 15 2007, 03:42 PM, said:

it's a pitty the 1,000 didn't get to the crusher imo

I got rid of the record because I thought it sounded awful. Then I heard it out again and thought it sounded great, and last time I heard it played out it sounded awful again. So just can't make up my mind on this one. Had a conversation with Ady Croasdell once about whether there were two different versions under the different names which would explain why it can sound good or bad but don't think that is the case, a record that just doesn't work sometimes, wierd.

Edited by Stuart T, 15 March 2007 - 05:17 PM.

[Simsy]

Simon M, on Mar 15 2007, 03:51 PM, said:

Is that Chas and Dave on the organ

Organ?

[Gene-R]

Pete-S, on Mar 15 2007, 10:47 AM, said:

I bought a copy recently and the chap I bought it off knew the history and the people who produced it, thought you might find this snippet of information interesting...

Larry Allen was from Greensburg, PA. Jerry Reed, who owned the label, had 1000 copies pressed. 500 as Larry Allen and 500 as L. Allen. It was released in the fall of 1965.
Jerry got frustrated because the record didn't sell and at the time he had an old car that he was junking, and he threw around 900 copies of the record into the trunk to be crushed and remelted.

Which would mean 100 copies of the record would be left in existence? Sounds quite a small amount compared to the copies that have probably surfaced over the past 20 or so years.

[jocko]

A monster record late 70's at Clouds up here in the Scottish Lowland for a Mr J Rogers, one of the many tunes being broken here at the time!!

Sure there is a story about a couple of copies being found in Hippy shop near University, any truth Jolly or Urban Myth being told to us young kids at the time!!

Hate the record now, but it sounded the business at Clouds, happy days!!

[Peter99]

I always liked the record - not heard it for ages, but I think I still like it!

[John May]

Anyone got a crushed copy for sale...........?

[baz atkinson]

could never fathom the fascination with this record,listen to it and ask one question"where is the soul",only my opinion of course but one of the big casino tunes of 79 that was a pile of shite.

BAZ A.

[Pete S]

Cloth-ears abound, it's bloody brilliant, it's got everything necessary to make it absolutely classic Northern. Fantastic record, from the call to arms piano intro to the do it yourself backing vocals

[Godzilla]

Simsy, on Mar 15 2007, 04:17 PM, said:

Organ?

Yeah organ. It's the bit that isn't singing, piano or drums.

Tried these Simsy?

Godz

[Pete S]

Godzilla, on Mar 17 2007, 09:02 PM, said:

Yeah organ. It's the bit that isn't singing, piano or drums.

Tried these Simsy?

Woman_Wi...r_Candle.jpg

Godz

Hopi ear candles - saw some of those when I went to have my acupuncture this week. Definitely needs them seeing as the organs the most prominent part of the record apart from the piano intro!

[Godzilla]

Mangomn2003, on Mar 17 2007, 09:20 PM, said:

Ear Candles?... Now I've Seen It All On Soul Source What's Next Navel De-Linting?

Well...

[Godzilla]

Pete-S, on Mar 17 2007, 09:10 PM, said:

Hopi ear candles - saw some of those when I went to have my acupuncture this week. Definitely needs them seeing as the organs the most prominent part of the record apart from the piano intro!

He must be listening to the a cappella Pete.

[Prophonics 2029]

Godzilla, on Mar 17 2007, 09:48 PM, said:

Well...

candle.jpg

Don't these people know that methane is flammable?
What are they trying to heal in this picture?

Great tune loved it since the first play ay the Casino.
Seen an LP by 1 Larry Allen nice cover.

[Simsy]

Godzilla, on Mar 17 2007, 09:02 PM, said:

Yeah organ. It's the bit that isn't singing, piano or drums.

Tried these Simsy?

Woman_Wi...r_Candle.jpg

Godz

I was only aware of piano on that track ...

wait one.

[Simsy]

Simsy, on Mar 18 2007, 03:16 PM, said:

I was only aware of piano on that track ...

wait one.

Oh yes ... As you were.

Piano riff so prevelant, clean forgot about organ.

[Simsy]

Can't we talk it over - larry allen - green dolphin





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Tell me tell me tell me of your many charms ...

Edited by Simsy, 18 March 2007 - 04:47 PM.

[Godzilla]

Simsy, on Mar 18 2007, 03:22 PM, said:

Oh yes ... As you were.

Piano riff so prevelant, clean forgot about organ.

In fairness he does sound like he's playing it with his elbows. Just adds to the naive charm of the tune though


Godz

[Prophonics 2029]

Can't We Talk It Over - l allen - green dolphin





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Sound clip taken from the L allen press.

Edited by Prophonics 2026, 18 March 2007 - 06:41 PM.

[Barry]

It's a gorgeous little record and I still get goosies when the bigged up piano break drops.

[Simsy]

Barry, on Mar 19 2007, 12:07 PM, said:

It's a gorgeous little record and I still get goosies when the bigged up piano break drops.

[Simsy]

Prophonics 2026, on Mar 18 2007, 05:36 PM, said:

Can't We Talk It Over - l allen - green dolphin





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Sound clip taken from the L allen press.

Is this a different version to the one above then?

[Prophonics 2029]

Simsy, on Mar 19 2007, 12:09 PM, said:

Is this a different version to the one above then?

My copy has a bit of noise at the begining and if you down loaded that track from Yann Vatiste Vavavoom web site, its the same recording.
So Iam not sure.

Edited by Prophonics 2026, 19 March 2007 - 01:47 PM.

[Simsy]

Prophonics 2026, on Mar 19 2007, 12:22 PM, said:

My copy has a bit of noise at the begining and if you down loaded that track from Yann Vatiste Vavavoom its the same recording.
So Iam not sure.

Ah right. Not the elusive non organ piano only mix then?

[Peter99]

It's a great record to dance to.

[Prophonics 2029]

Prophonics 2026, on Mar 19 2007, 12:22 PM, said:

My copy has a bit of noise at the begining and if you down loaded that track from Yann Vatiste Vavavoom web site, its the same recording.
So Iam not sure.

With the extended break and a few Hugg's & Harrss or even an Outsiders or Williams and Watson Hughe's or Hey's







No sorry

[Prophonics 2029]

Stop Press.
As it appens I have just been down to my local shop and F++k Me I have found an acetate of an Irish singer and its another version of the L Allen called cant we Walk It Talk it Over.
Wow what a dancer, I am loading up a snipet on MP3 now.

[Prophonics 2029]

Walk It Talk It Over - barry fallalan - steameed dolphin





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There's a few hand stands and claps in this track

Edited by Prophonics 2026, 19 March 2007 - 03:56 PM.

[Peter99]

Prophonics 2026, on Mar 19 2007, 02:34 PM, said:

Stop Press.
As it appens I have just been down to my local shop and F++k Me I have found an acetate of an Irish singer and its another version of the L Allen called cant we Walk It Talk it Over.
Wow what a dancer, I am loading up a snipet on MP3 now.

Fcuk me - value?

[Marc Forrest]

about 150 UKP...theres an interesting artivcle about this 45 and others out of the Steel City in the latest "Theres The Beat" fanzine. Recommended lecture.

[Gene-R]

Marc Forrest, on Mar 19 2007, 02:50 PM, said:

about 150 UKP...theres an interesting artivcle about this 45 and others out of the Steel City in the latest "Theres The Beat" fanzine. Recommended lecture.

More like £300 for the L. Allen and £350 for the Larry Allen, Marc.............

[Pete S]

Gene-R, on Mar 19 2007, 03:25 PM, said:

More like £300 for the L. Allen and £350 for the Larry Allen, Marc.............

I got more than that last week for my VG+ L. Allen

[Barry]

I paid a oner for it in about 1986.

[Gene-R]

Pete-S, on Mar 19 2007, 03:28 PM, said:

I got more than that last week for my VG+ L. Allen

Blimey! My EX- copy cost me £275 two years ago Pete! Must be going up again........

Edited by Gene-R, 19 March 2007 - 04:30 PM.