Men jailed for ‘fake’ vinyl records scam

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Men jailed for ‘fake’ vinyl records scam

Two men have been jailed and two others given suspended sentences for making and selling tens of thousands of niche counterfeit vinyl records.

Christopher Price, 68, Stephen Russell, 65, Robert Pye, 63, and Alan Godfrey, 61, were part of a group which distributed unlicensed recordings of 1960s Northern Soul artists.

On Friday a court heard about 55,000 unlicensed records were seized by police following an investigation by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI), which represents record companies in the UK including Warner Music, Sony Music Entertainment, and Universal Music Group.

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On ‎02‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 19:26, Winsford Soul said:

Many years ago when I had one of the first Terry Callier. Ordinary Joe. Cadet demos I was offered through a third party £750 and a further percentage amount depending on sales to lend my record out. A small part of me was tempted not with the money but at the thought of lots more people would have the chance to get a copy of one of the greatest songs ever laid down on vinyl but i couldn't do it on principle.  

Steve 

good man. I cant stand djs that do that .

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This one has always interested me (looks like the cat number is a D.O.B.)

 

 

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5 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

This one has always interested me (looks like the cat number is a D.O.B.)

 

 

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Things of beauty 🤢, I collect those 🤥 and find it hard to get a proper discography 👸🏽 of the Kingy records 🙈 and their rather complicated catalogue numbering system 👾... Boot or worthless reissues... as Johnny Moore sang; Just be for real !

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3 minutes ago, tlscapital said:

Things of beauty 🤢, I collect those 🤥 and find it hard to get a proper discography 👸🏽 of the Kingy records 🙈 and their rather complicated catalogue numbering system 👾... Boot or worthless reissues... as Johnny Moore sang; Just be for real !

So do we know who did it/them ?

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2 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

So do we know who did it/them ?

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On 04/12/2018 at 10:39, Rocky said:

 

Hmmmm, illegal or not it's a bit hypocritical if you sell a legal 7" for hundreds profit and don't give a penny to the artist or label don't you think?!?

             

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1 hour ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

So do we know who did it/them ?

I would have thought it obvious who did it given the label name?  I thought everyone knew but obviously not. 

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5 minutes ago, chalky said:

I would have thought it obvious who did it given the label name?  I thought everyone knew but obviously not. 

Are you implying it is not Kong ? 🤔

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Let's just say they were done in Nottingham along with a whole batch of others in the early 2000's I'm saying no more

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Once upon a time, King Kong had a quiet place... Until some western business crook showed up...

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squeaky bum time.

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On 05/12/2018 at 13:06, tlscapital said:

Are you implying it is not Kong ? 🤔

Christ its not Kong?

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On 30/11/2018 at 18:18, Steve S 60 said:

The Proceeds of Crime hearing should be interesting.

Might be interesting to turn up at a disposal of goods auction? 

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On 05/12/2018 at 13:20, speedlimit said:

Let's just say they were done in Nottingham along with a whole batch of others in the early 2000's I'm saying no more

No need-the same bastard sold me a load out of his boot wen I it’s stared collecting-specials he said-the prat-I got rid 

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As it happens I did the initial artwork for the birthday giveaway label as a favour to him. 

If i'm assuming right the 'others' you are referring to are the white labels - actually you're wrong - he got the blame for them but someone else did them (apart from the initial ones which he had official permission from Motown to do SOME in order 'to promote to DJs' ahead of the unissued CD comps) - I know exactly who but let's leave it there - don't forget without his running with the ball on the permission thing we would never have seen most of that stuff.

Dx

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9 minutes ago, DaveNPete said:

As it happens I did the initial artwork for the birthday giveaway label as a favour to him. 

If i'm assuming right the 'others' you are referring to are the white labels - actually you're wrong - he got the blame for them but someone else did them (apart from the initial ones which he had official permission from Motown to do SOME in order 'to promote to DJs' ahead of the unissued CD comps) - I know exactly who but let's leave it there - don't forget without his running with the ball on the permission thing we would never have seen most of that stuff.

Dx

So just to confirm the ones with artwork are not bootlegs then like everyone said ? :)

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The initial production in small numbers supposedly had the nod from Harry Weingler at Motown to be put out to DJs as they were at least initially (they certainly willingly initially gave him full access to the digitised tape vaults) to pre-promote the planned releases of the CDs of unissued stuff - though of course he did 'run with the ball' somewhat - though ultimately MUCH to our benefit.

Dx

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Ref-Kingy I did the initial one that he did as a giveaway for his birthday bash (and said he had rights for) - thereafter I had nothing to do with them.

Dx

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27 minutes ago, DaveNPete said:

Ref-Kingy I did the initial one that he did as a giveaway for his birthday bash (and said he had rights for) - thereafter I had nothing to do with them.

Dx

Dave. That was the. Marvin Gaye 

it's killing me ( love starved heart) for his 40th bash at Bretby I'm assuming 

Steve 

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I forget - a long time ago.

Dx

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19 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

Dave. That was the. Marvin Gaye 

it's killing me ( love starved heart) for his 40th bash at Bretby I'm assuming 

Steve 

 

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No not one I did.

Dx

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someone paid £85 for one those last September according to Discogs, so this was licenced then?

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12 hours ago, shufflin said:

someone paid £85 for one those last September according to Discogs, so this was licenced then?

It appears these were both made for a particular DJ to celebrate his birthdays, at the time and as yet we have no idea as to whether they were licensed, I am pretty sure with the knowledge on this site someone will know if they were or weren't

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I picked up two of the Marvin Gaye’s on the night at Bretby in 1996. Only got one left though. Traded one for a CD on the night.

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Brexit can't come fast enough😀

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32 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

 

What do we reckon ?

Frankie Beverly on Fairmount for E9.50 bargain!!! 🤣 

 

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1 hour ago, JulianB said:

Brexit can't come fast enough😀

I am staggered at the repros of the Soul Sounds ones.....Bootlegs of Bootlegs......wow !!!!

Perhaps one of our Spanish friends on Soul source will contact the authorities

 

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I know nothing !!

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18 hours ago, JulianB said:

Brexit can't come fast enough😀

Merely a nasty Spanish job from an initial nasty British job... 

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On 16/01/2019 at 17:12, chalky said:

@ady croasdell some of yours amongst this lot of dodgy discs

Thanks Chalky I’ll look into it

 

Ady

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