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For those avid collectors of rare soul vinyl, the mail order list of SoulBowl (proprietor, John Anderson) should have a special place in their heart, because for the last 50 years it has been at the forefront of vinyl digging for those rare soul imports that we hold so deep in our hearts.

Soul Bowl is to present a connoisseurs room at this forthcoming Prestatyn weekender and has lined up some of it's previous primary customers, including Colin Curtis, Richard Searling, Soul Sam etc. to play something engaging.

To promote this room and also shed a little light on the Soul Bowl set up, I've managed to get a small introduction from John and then a few words about my experience as a collector, including finding records on the weekly list, or in person at the warehouse.

For those who have never had the fortuity to have experienced Soul Bowl's mail order business, or for those who did, but would like a reminder of what went on in those early years of the rare soul scene, I've also posted up some old sales lists. I hope you find them as interesting and amazing as I did

JA intro:

Mark has asked me to write a few words about my 48 years or so of selling records.my first deal came about from my time trawling shops on glasgow. There was a camera shop that had tons of 50’s/60’s uk singles they had bought as a load. I was in there one day and they saidwe got a lot more in a room behind a false wall in the basement. There were four titles in quantity–miracles on fontana/both marvelettes on fontana/eddie holland-jamie. I bought them for 3 old pence and sold them to reddinton’s records in birmingham for 6 old pence-i was on my way!

My second deal was a load of 10,000-us singles i bought blind-took out the soul and managed to offload the rest to an office supply shop in glasgow.

My third bigger deal was going to the states and i hand picked 60,000-soul singles and shipped back sea freight and when my mum and dad saw the truck turning up at our second floor council house they thought the floor would collapse with all the weight! I didn’t have these records for long,word got out and that was the start of our time in the record business proper. I’ve been on the road in the states most years for 4 or 5 months so after close to 50 years you forget a lot of the deals you made.the only year we added up the invoices was 1977 and that year we shipped in one million singles.our major problem was space in king’slynn we had 4 places in town. An old church, a barn and a huge double garage, but we were always running out of places to put the next load. The great thing about those days was we learnt as we went along and there were no price guides which really mean nothing as prices change all the time, also collectors had very little money and we would end up with piles of bounced cheques! All very different from today.

Mark has also asked me to mention a couple of record deals we made back in the day. two that come to mind are the time i went to cincinnati to buy a load of 200,000 singles. They were in the basement of a one stop that had closed down–ceiling to floor-they were mainly promo copies.the one stop would mail out a few and then through the rest in the basement from the late 50’s to ‘67. I couldn’t really see much as there was no power-so it was a gamble and we made the deal.i had them shipped but had no idea what we had until the truck’s turned up in king’s lynn. I opened the first box and inside were 50 copies of the invitations-ski-ing in the snow. We ended up with thousands of obscure mid west/west coast soul records as well as demos on major labels. I could write pages about these deals but the second one i’ll mention was in the uk. I used to swap loads with a friend of mine paul who ran stalls on bradford market.he had picked up a load from me and a few weeks later he called me up and said we’ve just got in a big load from the west coast. I went there with gary cape––it was mainly west coast labels in quantity–mirwood/pzazz/highland etc etc––they came from record merchandisers in los angeles. I just remembered that when i still lived in scotland i got the train down to bradford and went to paul’s house to look at the records in his garage––there was 50 copies of the salvadors on wise world in there–wish i had them today!!!!!

 

From a collectors perspective:

In the early 7ts I was already a devoted follower of Northern Soul, even at the tender age of 14yrs. The Torch allnighter was the place to go and my older brother, Ant, was a regular attendee. He had a reasonable collection of imports and gave me the go-ahead to play them when I wanted to. Becoming more interested in vinyl I would peruse a weekly list that my brother was receiving; the list was called Groove City and was basically a couple of A4 pages with about 200 records for sale, mainly Ric Tic, Motown and various Detroit labels on offer. Trying to remember what was on those lists 43 yrs ago is a real struggle, but i do remember that a regular record that you could buy, was Sam Ward 'sister lee' Groove City for 75p. This it turned out was the prototype soul list to SoulBowl.

Eventually, i got signed up to the SoulBowl list in my own name and became a regular buyer, an addiction to this day that ive never been able to restrain. The mail order business was essentially run by husband and wife team, John and Marissa Anderson, with support from a Northern Soul dj, Poke.

One of the real attractions of the list was the Pound Special page. Since there wasn't a great deal of money in a young person's pocket at that time, being able to buy a decent original Northern 45 for a Quid was just what us budding collectors needed.

Most weeks, another excellent section of the list contained a record that had been hitherto 'big' at the major allnighters, which had now been discovered in some quantity and was now for sale at a fraction of the price it had been previously. This would usually be the talking point for many of the collectors in the Wigan record bar, or at our local 'soul pub' the Antelope. See if you can spot any of these records on the sample lists at the end of this article.

Obviously, most of the records on the weekly list were rarities and therefore you needed to phone as early as possible to reserve. For most of us, that meant running down to the phone box at the end of the street and dialing the ten digit number, usually getting the engaged tone for at least the first twenty tries. When you finally got through, you heard the dulcet, Scottish inaugural greeting, 'SoulBowl' Pushing your coins into the phone box, hoping and praying that your most wanted records were still available, you were able to put in your order. Being able to secure any records from your wish list would set the tone for that day and sometimes for days after. I remember one day in particular, when i was able to reserve five top notch sounds and i ran back up the street, punching the air like I'd just scored in the cup final.

As the years passed and my interest in the the obscure 45 became more intense, I began to send Soul Bowl my wants list, or casually ask about an particular record during a phone order. Eventually, John said those magic words: why don't you come down to the warehouse and have a look around for yourself. This was music to my ears and for the next few days I prepared for the visit, putting together my list of things to look for and simultaneously finding as much cash that i could muster.

The visit was a record collectors dream, over a million soul 45s in one barn, racked out in label/alphabetical order. FInding so many great records in one place and at great prices. It was so good that i decided to stay for an extra day and make a weekend of it. Records that i bought included Montclairs hey you, Bob & Fred Ill be on my way, revells trent town, sonatas hotline, webs dynamic, paul sindab, voltaires bacone, willie mason kalama, four andantes modo, wendell watts kiss a good thing etc. etc. I came away with over 200 hand-picked records and i remember John saying to me, 'im glad you came, as nobody else wants these kind of records' At that period of the scene, he was right; there wasn't really many collectors looking for obscurities.

On consecutive visits to the warehouse, like many of the djs that ive talked to who took trips there, John had a box of specially selected 45s just for my consideration. Inside those boxes there was always something significantly good, unknown and rare. Some of the titles that came from these visits were: Saints Wigwam, Sensations demanding man, Poets J2, George Pepp, Appointments Delite, Love is alright acetate, Hank Hodge eye for an eye.

On one occasion i asked John about a record by the Imperial Cs on Phil la Soul, which has appeared on the main sales list the week before; "what's it like", I asked? John's reply was, "give it a play", as it didn't sell and was still in the sales box. Price was £8 and the rest is history!

Countless other collectors will have similar memories to these that I've described and it would be great to hear about them too.

It's hard to describe the impact Soul Bowl has had on the world of Soul collecting, but it is immense. I haven't even touched upon the stories of their UK wholesale operation, or their substantial sales overseas (including the legendary Japanese lists) and maybe someone else can expand upon these anecdotes following this article. For me, Soul Bowl was the lodestar in discovering the beauty and diversity of American Soul music.

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i loved Soul Bowl, when we started going to Stafford in the early 80s we would follow Keb and Guy up and down the country and by speaking to people would sometimes find out who the cover ups were by.

I remember picking up Bobby Hutton-come See- Demo for £5 and Sam Fletcher pic cover for £7 amongst many others.

 

An invaluable part of collecting Soul for me and many of my friends.

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a great read and some top stories....never bought from soul bowl myself,another too young in the 70s and early 80s by the mid 80s when id left school and had some money I was spending it all on my scooter and being happy with the bootlegs bought from the rallys :huh:

 

but your stories about waiting for the list ..and then ringing up after 8 and the line being engaged and missing out on tunes struck a chord..use to do the exact same thing in the very early 90s when  djing and collecting reggae from a list sent out monthly from a bloke in Nottingham..loads of original JA 7s for a couple of quid a time..got his 'typed' lists again about 10 years back as hes still not doing the internet thing....prices had certainly changed though!

 

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I remember a mate of mine getting the Soul Bowl lists in the late 70s/early 80s, he was well into it but unfortunately I wasn't really into collecting when I first got into the scene, more interested in the dancing and the er... 'social' side of things. Always felt like I'd missed the boat, and this confirms it. :(

 

To be honest I'm not sure I would have ever, or even now, had the patience, dedication to put in the time and effort required to built a great collection. True collectors, like our esteemed author, are truly a breed apart in my opinion.

 

p.s. Just sitting here trying to imagine what 200,000 45s would look like filling my front room... :g:

 

pps In 1984 I was working at the Jag, living at home, but earning the same wage as a married man with kids. What the hell did I spend all my money on? :huh:

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In 1975 I was not much of a collector , not having a lot of money and any money I did have went on getting to venues, gear etc.

Anyway, after a  Peterborough Wirrina nighter which were on a Friday night I decided to visit John`s shop in Kings Lynn.

John was amazingly patient with a very " animated " young soulie who was quite happy to gaze in wonder at all the records and " chat " about anything and everything.

He eventually, very tactfully managed to steer me out of the door clutching a copy of the Epitome of Sound which I still have today.

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Super read and a truly fitting tribute to arguably the great finder of rare soul music.  Oh for a time machine to go back to the time the lists came out and to have todays tech with it, enough to make you cry reading some of the titles and prices when you consider what they achieve price wise in today's market.  Some of those paying silly prices now do not realise in some cases just what quantity was available for some titles.

 

What day and what time is the Soul Bowl tribute at Prestatyn?

 

2pm - 5.30pm on Saturday  :thumbsup:

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Let's not forget the DJ's got first pick! Ian Levine got the Carstairs from John. He heard it in the US, couldn't find and he and Colin Curtis found it in Soul Bowl. Colin told me that 20 years ago.

 

Whats amazing is John was going to the U.S. when it wasn't safe for a white man to venture into some of the areas he went (not a racist comment, just that is how it was then)

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I think the enigmatic Mr Anderson appears on this trailer....

Ian D  :D

 

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if interested then see the odyssy box set thread for the youtube trailer

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Getting through on the phone was always a problem. Engaged, engaged, engaged. Through.

 

Remember when John was selling up to Craig Moerer in the 90s….Andy Davies calls says he's just found an unissued Millie Jackson album acetate and John wants to throw it in the skip  :lol:

 

I would finish my paper round and the lady who ran the shop would be there every tuesday trying to get through..!! Some absolute great records she managed to get for me !!

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Great writeup and tribute to JA at Soul Bowl, Butch

 

I would just like to add that without ppl like John, the scene would just not of been the same and help find so many great Soul Sounds, feeding top DJ's such as Richard Searling.

 

I have forgotten about all about the money you had from me John back then, when myself and Kelvin Loach use to order various tracks including Soul Packs, now legendary !

 

ktf and respect

Richard 

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Great read and who didn't wait with bated breath for the SB list? I was lucky, my mate Ian was a postie at the sorting office so I would get the 5am call and we would go through the list but unlike Eddie I didn't wait for 8am, basically as soon as we were ready the phone started to ring! Mrs Soul Bowl was lovely, but in the end John didn't have the phone on until the stated time so we just had to hope the chosen ones were there. Great days, legend dealer and part of the scenes history. 

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Let's not forget the DJ's got first pick! Ian Levine got the Carstairs from John. He heard it in the US, couldn't find and he and Colin Curtis found it in Soul Bowl. Colin told me that 20 years ago.

 

Whats amazing is John was going to the U.S. when it wasn't safe for a white man to venture into some of the areas he went (not a racist comment, just that is how it was then)

"He heard it in the US"....not exactly....he actually started to record local radio stations (on cassette)and whilst in Miami he tuned in to a BRILLIANT black music(can I say that on Soul Source ? No racism intended)radio station called WCKO.It was a local dj that introduced and played the Carstairs.IL found that out from the tape.... :thumbsup::):hatsoff2:

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Hi John, it's been mentioned before but in a nutshell Sam believed so much in the new modern tracks John was turning up he asked Richard ( who was getting 1st plck ) to trade 3  of his biggies, Larry Houston, Z Z & Co , Dustin Wilson in exchange for William Powel, Don Gardner & Daemon Fox, I know! you sort of had to be there mate  :D

Thank you for enlightening me Arthur. That's true belief indeed. 

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Great article - the anticipation of waiting for the list and the phone calls - fantastic memories trying to pick the bargains with Jordi and Dave Ripolles - also some mistakes but we were only 16 / 17 at the time!

Happy days!  Adam.

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I was always late for work in the 70's. I could sleep through a hurricane.

 

But the noise of the letterbox followed by a satisfying thud as a parcel of records hit the doormat had me up and there in seconds.

 

Great thread and article.

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Hi John, it's been mentioned before but in a nutshell Sam believed so much in the new modern tracks John was turning up he asked Richard ( who was getting 1st plck ) to trade 3  of his biggies, Larry Houston, Z Z & Co , Dustin Wilson in exchange for William Powel, Don Gardner & Daemon Fox, I know! you sort of had to be there mate  :D

which did he get in exchange for Dusty Wilson?

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I found out about soul bowl while i was still at school, either through blues and soul or black echoes. I then preceded to read the lists in physics lessons. I really had no clue what i was looking at. just the odd artist that looked familiar. The first title i got was £1.50 and my mum had to show me how to do the postal order, probably around 78/79 . My first expensive record was Gene woodbury £20, I was so exited I told John I would come and pick it up at portland street. I travelled on the bus from nowich, i't took forever going round all these little villages, but i could not drive so had little other option. Got my record then John took me back to the bus station. Traveled back on the bus thinking, iv'e just met the king!. Top bloke who has forgot more than most know.

Andy

Andy i took Berni for a day out their when we first met seemed a better option than a meal out.Been married  25 years so it did no harm. :)

John did get the wine out and chips were ordered.

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I like the reference he made to bounced cheques. That might have been me I'm afraid. At that time living beyond my means trying to balance a life with record collecting a bounced cheque was a regular occurance.

 

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Great writeup and tribute to JA at Soul Bowl, Butch

 

I would just like to add that without ppl like John, the scene would just not of been the same and help find so many great Soul Sounds, feeding top DJ's such as Richard Searling.

 

I have forgotten about all about the money you had from me John back then, when myself and Kelvin Loach use to order various tracks including Soul Packs, now legendary !

 

ktf and respect

Richard 

 Kelvin Loach from Congleton ? If so he drove to Wigan one week, drove down a motorway slip road the wrong way and then got lost in Wigan and went the wrong way down a one way street. Those were the days.....

 

John

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Forgot to mention you could buy anything off his cheapie selection at the front for under a tenner and know it would be bloody fantastic! Im sure i got my Timeless Legend and Storm from him from that front page bit but will have a look at the old lists with the rings around the buys I have in the loft to confirm. JA is a leg end of biblical proportions and does deserve a book about his record hunting and dealing. 

His listing of all his stock for sale by label was an absolute goldmine and interspersed with old adverts etc for the releases made for fantastic viewing. Will again look to see whats in the loft 

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 Kelvin Loach from Congleton ? If so he drove to Wigan one week, drove down a motorway slip road the wrong way and then got lost in Wigan and went the wrong way down a one way street. Those were the days.....

 

John

 

Thats sound like Kelv, ran it ( white VW Beetle iirc ) out of OIL once too...... lol

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I phoned up for Moses Dillard "I'll Pay The Price" original for £7. It was still there and when I asked if he had another copy for a mate he said he did! Two mint copies of Moses Dillard for £14! Great days!

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Thats sound like Kelv, ran it ( white VW Beetle iirc ) out of OIL once too...... lol

 

LOL it wasn't a Beetle though it was either a Sunbeam or Hilman soft top

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LOL it wasn't a Beetle though it was either a Sunbeam or Hilman soft top

 

I'm sure it was, the engine was air cooled and was in the boot.......use to go everywhere with him and Linda - Always took it to Richardson's to be repaired !

 

Them were the days ..........

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.....................And I think Rare Grooves was also John (not 100% sure about that), a short lived label that put out LR Superstars in 1990. 

 

 

Yes, it was, and Vince Broomfield was extremely complimentary towards John when I interviewed him for Prestatyn radio back in 2013, saying he owes a debt of gratitude to John for his exposure in the UK.

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R 

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Grapevine surely one of the very best UK labels Steve with quality with every release and the 2000 series just bloody brillent, the Modern releases certainly saved me from vinyl heartache and divorce! 

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Some fabulous  story's so far   - As well as John being  tops with the 60s and Northern, Group and deep soul there were also fantastic stuff waiting to be grabbed on those Soulful Dance and Coast to Coast independant sales sheets too ....used to love  checking out the new small label stuff ...

 

. tfk  :rofl:

Great  contribution!!

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