Guest Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'. I'm talking: Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry Maxine Brown - Not My Baby Gene Chandler - Just Be True Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart Marva Josie - Don't Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me? Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call? That kinda stuff. Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat? Cheers y'all. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'. I'm talking: Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry Maxine Brown - Not My Baby Gene Chandler - Just Be True Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart Marva Josie - Don't Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me? Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call? That kinda stuff. Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat? Cheers y'all. Love that LENNY WELCH record, especially the awesome femme backing vocals! See GENE CHANDLER on the list do you know 'You cant hurt me no more', top drawer Chicago, fantastic production. Edited August 4, 2009 by chorleysoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sarahleen Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 whats a "beat ballad" ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 whats a "beat ballad" ? A tune that slow and boring ,it puts you to sleep Bazza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sarahleen Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 A tune that slow and boring ,it puts you to sleep Bazza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tiggerwoods Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'. I'm talking: Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry Maxine Brown - Not My Baby Gene Chandler - Just Be True Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart Marva Josie - Don't Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me? Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call? That kinda stuff. Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat? Cheers y'all. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tiggerwoods Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'. I'm talking: Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry Maxine Brown - Not My Baby Gene Chandler - Just Be True Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart Marva Josie - Don't Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me? Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call? That kinda stuff. Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat? Cheers y'all. My suggestions are ;- Deena Johnson -- Breaking Point Judy Clay - My arms aren't strong enough ( plus an equally good B-side which is the original (?)of Johnny Taylor's unissued track - That's All) B-side of Marie Knight - You lie so well ..... forgotten title! Definately NOT slow and boring as others think!! Absolutely phenomenal ender type beat ballads.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) I never really like the term beat ballads (prefer mid-tempo) but i suppose these are my favourites... if they are beat ballads. The Magnificent Seven - Never Will I Make My Baby Cry Barbara Lynn - This Is The Thanks I Get The Commands - Hey It's Love But the king of all is Buddy Smith - When You Lose The One You Love (magical) I might be wrong but it's a sub-genre associated with Stafford mid tempo stuff. Edited August 4, 2009 by Matt Male Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Oh dear, now you've gone and done it!! I'll be back in a bit!! Freddy Jaye Thinkin' of you George Smith or Robin Rice I've Had it Ernestine Anderson You're not the guy for me Tony Middleton Paris Blues and on and on and on and on..................... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve W Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 jerry butler - you walked into my life hoagy lands - satisfy my needs jimmy beaumont - i never loved her anyway glaze - promises charles beverly - stop and think a minute just a few of the top of my head - none sound boring to me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Great stuff, thanks for the tips. Gonna get digging. Definitely a sound that went down well in the mid 80s at Stafford and 100 Club. But yer can't please all the peeps all the time. Anyway, cheer folks. And keep 'em coming ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tiggerwoods Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'. I'm talking: Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry Maxine Brown - Not My Baby Gene Chandler - Just Be True Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart Marva Josie - Don't Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me? Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call? That kinda stuff. Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat? Cheers y'all. Nearly forgot.... Jerry Butler - I don't want to hear it anymore (Veejay) .......Gut wrenchingly good. Up there in Big Maybelle - Oh Lord country! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Just a few from me Freddie Scott - Mr Heartache Freddie Parris - Are you ever coming home King Pins - Lucky Guy Roy Hamilton - Reach out for me Roy Hamilton - Heartache hurry on by Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
oldsteve woomble Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hey Matt here's ten fairly easy ones for you to have a go at that you might or might not have/know etc..... Freddie Gorman - The Day Will Come Esther Phillips - While It Lasted Arthur Alexander - Show Me the Road Jean Dushon - As I Watch You Walk Away Lonnie Youngblood - The Grass Will Sing For You Brook Benton - Where Does A Man Go To Cry Gladys Knight - Letter Full Of Tears Dee Dee Sharpe - Night Jimmy Beaumont - You Got Too Much Going For You Yvonne Baker - Mend The Torn Pieces Make it 11 then.... Jimmy Richards - I Won't be Responsible All marvellous soul. Well, to me anyway..... Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 whats a "beat ballad" ? A Ballad, that has a beat!! You did ask..... Mal Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I think Longy will Vouch for me when i say i like a beat ballad or twelve., here's a few more suggestions; Jay milller Can't you tell him no Gladys knight and the pips tell him your mine Jimmy Miller On a backstreet Arthur Prysock Come and see this old fool You found my lonely heart a home Little Anthony and the Imperials It's not the same Doug Banks Ain't that just like a woman " " " " " Baby, since you went away Barbara george Recipe Lonnie Satin Who's Gonna memtion my name..............orph, orph Suit you sir hhhhhhoh! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 whats a "beat ballad" ? Is it .............A pie? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 George Freeman - Down and out George Smith - I've had it These 2 are the best I've ever heard of this genre.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Little-stevie Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) Just leav this to the folk who love the deep side.. Quality topic, this is gonna run run run.. Will post some after work today... Edited August 5, 2009 by little-stevie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Freddie Gorman - The Day Will Come Excellent shout! Freddie Scott - Mr Heartache Freddie Scott - Hey Girl Brook Benton - Where does a man go to cry Romance Watson - Where does that leave me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Walter Jackson-Uphill Climb to the Bottom Tommy Tate-Taking on Pain Jackie Wilson-Those Heartaches for starters. Tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gary Samways Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 ten from me, in no particular order i'm only a man - willie tee (his best i.m.o) you satisfy my needs - big dee irwin soft and gentle ways - clydie king walk with love - dobie gray (b - side of see you at the go-go) come see what's left of me - bobby hutton don't forget that i love you - the intentions making my daydream real - we the people tomorrow is another day - gene stridel ooh wee baby i love you - fred hughes just be sincere - jackie wilson Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 gene stridel - tomorrow is another day look here girl - jim nabie charlotte ohara - what about you jack montgomery - dont turn your back on me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I never really like the term beat ballads (prefer mid-tempo) but i suppose these are my favourites... if they are beat ballads. The Magnificent Seven - Never Will I Make My Baby Cry Barbara Lynn - This Is The Thanks I Get The Commands - Hey It's Love But the king of all is Buddy Smith - When You Lose The One You Love (magical) I might be wrong but it's a sub-genre associated with Stafford mid tempo stuff. Three great choices there Matt. The Buddy Smith record should have been melted down on release though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 One thats been filling dancefloors (well,my living room - just me!!)... HOWARD TATE - HALF A MAN - VERVE....cheap as you like........... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Richard Bayley Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 The "Soul or Nothing" room at the Radcliffe nighter last Saturday ended at 7am with the following couple of beauties (c/o Wayne) :- Joe Hinton - Don't Tell Her the Truth Zerben Hicks & Dynamics - Lights Out Counselling was available on site for those who suddenly felt the need to end it all there and then......... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I am incredibly proud (yes proud, you tempo terrorists out there)to say I have played about 3/4 of these records on list so far in spots over year, mostly last hour at Allanton, when we had as many people as interested in the music as the beat! Think there is a media thread out there somewhere specialising in these somewhere, worth reviving some time. Only problem for me is where people mistake any big voice with a good soul singer and the genre becomes a bit blurry for me, but appreciate particularly with the Big City stuff the line is definitely blurred. Tony Colton is one to add that I like to think I had some part in it making, after Dean Anderson obviously, but that is one that not sure has stood the test of time. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest topcatnumpty1 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hey Matt here's ten fairly easy ones for you to have a go at that you might or might not have/know etc..... Freddie Gorman - The Day Will Come Esther Phillips - While It Lasted Arthur Alexander - Show Me the Road Jean Dushon - As I Watch You Walk Away Lonnie Youngblood - The Grass Will Sing For You Brook Benton - Where Does A Man Go To Cry Gladys Knight - Letter Full Of Tears Dee Dee Sharpe - Night Jimmy Beaumont - You Got Too Much Going For You Yvonne Baker - Mend The Torn Pieces Make it 11 then.... Jimmy Richards - I Won't be Responsible All marvellous soul. Well, to me anyway..... Steve Steve(see we,ve finally signed someone--apparently 5 in 3 days possibly)--just played-Jimmy Richards--"Responsible" abou 2 hours ago!! as regards -"Grass will sing to you"--grat song ,everyones recorded it --but the best version by a country mile is by the writer-Tony Bruno on U.A. (ABOUT £125) a killer ask Steve Edgar--it went down a storm at Morecambe Weekender!! Are you 2 at Lytham on Sat--we r then Deano,s game on Sunday. Best T.C. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dark Horse Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'. I'm talking: Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry Maxine Brown - Not My Baby Gene Chandler - Just Be True Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart Marva Josie - Don't Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me? Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call? That kinda stuff. Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat? Cheers y'all. And one of the CLASSIC Beat Ballad/Enders of all time (IMHO) Ray Pollard,The Drifter on United Artists. Regards. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sarahleen Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 A Ballad, that has a beat!! You did ask..... Mal but surely dont all ballads have a beat ? ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 One step at a time Maxine Brown Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Loving this thread. Some of the suggestions, I have. Others, I'm now on the hunt. And while we're at it, how about: Sam E Solo - Tears Keep Falling Buddy Ace - Inside Story The Jive Five - Don't Take My Candy Away Freddy Butler - That's When I Need You Tommy Hunt - Lover Darryl Fletcher - Little Girl Marie Kinght - A Little Too Lonely Maxine Brown - Gotta Find A Way Judy Clay - Haven't Got What It Takes Marvin Smith - Hold On Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Here are my suggestions......... All fabulous in my opinion............... Best dogstoat Sterling, abeat ballad? A great track, but a beat Ballad . Or is it? I'll be posting a lot more up taters!! OOh i nearly got a twinge then Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulsider Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'. I'm talking: Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry Maxine Brown - Not My Baby Gene Chandler - Just Be True Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart Marva Josie - Don't Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me? Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call? That kinda stuff. Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat? Cheers y'all. Eddie Parker - Cryin' Clown Walter Jackson - Not You Ray Pollard - My Girl and I Tippie and The Wisemen - Wait 'Til I Get There Edited August 5, 2009 by soulsider Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Larry Semmins Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Sam Fletcher "I'd think it over twice" flip it for "Friday Night" two for the price of one. ATB Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phil Shields Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Bill Lucas - Cause I Know Your Mine Dionn Clydie King - Only The Guilty Cry Phillips Brooks O'Dell - You Better Make Up Your Mind Bell Brilliant Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Well folks.....Here's some more Beat Ballads for your consideration; Milt Grayson Your old standby Derby Jimmy Ricks Homesick (flip to daddy rollin'stone) Atco Jimmy Stokes Keep on going Siana Artistics I need your love Okeh Bobby Williams Tell it to my face Lu-pine Sidney Barnes Wait Gemini Jackie Wilson Haunted house Brunswick Bobby Hebb I love Mary Scepter Jimmy Ruffin As long as there is l-o-v-e love Soul Marcels My love for you Colpix Shirrelles Doomsday Scepter Johnny Dunn Darlin' Double l Carla Thomas I can't take it Atlantic B.B. King Help the poor Abc-paramount Drifters In the Land of make believe Atlantic Joe Bragg It's a lovely thing Arliss Invitations Written on the wall Dynovoice Angelic Choir Wade in the water Savoy Marv Johnson The man who don't believe in love United Artists Kenny Dana It's been so long Shell Bobby Adams Sixteen years in the making Battle Jerry Jackson You might be there with him Kapp Kell Osborne Quicksand Titanic Billy Barnes Until Liberty........... ...........Anyone for thirds?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Bobby Williams Tell it to my face Lu-pine Simply superb, haven't heard it played anywhere for 25 years + Still out of my price range as well despite being neglected by everyone. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Markw Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Some nice tunes listed....except for Kell Osborne "Quicksand"; never understood what that's about. Feel much the same about it as Pete Smith does about Buddy Smith (which I think is superb). Ways, hows about: Jerry Ganey "Just A Fool" (Verve) Liz Lands "Don't Shut Me Out" (Onederful) Ruby & The Romantics "Does He Really Care For Me" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Simply superb, haven't heard it played anywhere for 25 years + Still out of my price range as well despite being neglected by everyone. Out of your price range?.........Didn't think it was that much to buy...Hard to find, sort of, but didn't think it was a LOT of money. But as you have said, a truly neglected tune. Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Some nice tunes listed....except for Kell Osborne "Quicksand"; never understood what that's about. You don't like it? What about the other side, Lonely boys song? I think this is one of thee best double siders tint thistree! OH, I whole heartedly Agree on the "other one" mentioned. I can't bring myself to utter its name. UURRGGHH! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Out of your price range?.........Didn't think it was that much to buy...Hard to find, sort of, but didn't think it was a LOT of money. But as you have said, a truly neglected tune. Mike Hey you're right, i thought it was about £400 for some reason, but just saw one went for $50 (although VG+) a while back. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 whats a "beat ballad" ? . a ballad but with a beat and slower than mid-tempo IMO. Many of those listed are what I'd class mid-tempo. George Freeman - Down and Out and Bobby Bennett - Alone With My Tears two of the best IMO. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Simply superb, haven't heard it played anywhere for 25 years + Still out of my price range as well despite being neglected by everyone. You can look at mine if you like . I'm so mean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 . a ballad but with a beat and slower than mid-tempo IMO. Many of those listed are what I'd class mid-tempo. George Freeman - Down and Out and Bobby Bennett - Alone With My Tears two of the best IMO. Yes i would say that is right...A lot of peeps seem to think Big production mid-tempo is a beat ballad. Like you have said, just below mid-tempo is as i have always thought to be a beat"ballad" (there's a clue there, tooohhoooo) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Jimmy Witherspoon "big man cry" and anything with kettle drums and a fugal horn is ok by me. Jackie Wilson - haunted house - Brunswick - annabel fox - Lonely Girl - Edited August 11, 2009 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Jimmy Witherspoon "big man cry" and anything with kettle drums and a fugal horn is ok by me. OOh, don't know that, any soundfiles anyone. I like JW. I thought a Fugal horn was a Sunday night condition. Edited August 11, 2009 by posstot Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) OOh, don't know that, any soundfiles anyone. I like JW. I thought a Fugal horn was a Sunday night condition. Sorry gave me lp away as a present, ta Ken. Found one i got the title wrong. jimmy witherspoon - man dont cry - Richaed"popcorn"Wylie - greater than anything - Epic promo - Edited August 11, 2009 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest andrew bin Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 gotta keep on walking "little herman" get a hold of your self "byrdie green" love "gladys" closed for the season "bettye swan" his true love for you "al mccarther" whats the best mid tempo night in the country Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
posstot Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Sorry gave me lp away as a present, ta Ken. Found one i got the title wrong. jimmy witherspoon - man dont cry - Richaed"popcorn"Wylie - greater than anything - Epic promo - JESUS H CHRIST!!!! I had completely forgotten about this track, since i had it on a Kent comp album(i think).Many Many moons ago. Is it on a 45? Well i must thank you for that..I think i love you. Gonna hunt this fecker doon. thanks thanks Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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