Guest POTTERIESPECK Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Event Title: KINGS HALL ALL-NIGHTER & SOULBOY -21st AUGUST 2010 Event Author: POTTERIESPECK Calendar: Allnighter/Weekenders Event Date: SATURDAY 21st AUGUST 2010. ------------------------------------------------- SODA PICTURES IS PROMOTING A ALLNIGHTER plus the showing of the film SOULBOY at this ALLNIGHTER AT THE KINGS HALL,STOKE -ON-TRENT, THE ONLY I NFORMATION I CAN PASS ON SO FAR IS THE ENTRANCE FEE IS £20 AND IT IS STATED THAT MEMBERS OF THE CAST SHOULD BE PRESENT. ALSO IT STATES THAT IT WILL BE HOSTED BY AFICIONADO RUSS WINSTANLEY AND BE RECORDED LIVE TO BE BROADCAST INTO CLUBS ACROSS THE UK AND IRELAND. PLEASE NOTE THIS IS A SODA PICTURES EVENT AND NOT THE USUAL PROMOTER OF THE REGULAR KINGS HALL ALLNIGHTERS [ KEV ROBERTS] Visit this Event in Soul Source Events Guide for venue maps, street views,road and rail directions and more Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 (edited) Hi All, As Goldsoul are being hounded for tickets, can I stress a few important items in relation to the film. 1. Goldsoul are NOT the promoters of the event on August 21st at the Kings Hall,Stoke. Our involvement is purely a tad of consultancy and our suggestion the film was shot at the venue and various locations in the Potteries. 2. The capacity attendance for this one off occasion is 1,400. 600 tickets are held for Cast,Crew, VIP's etc etc with 800 on sale now from Stoke on Trent Tourism. E-mail: tourism@stoke.gov.uk Web: www.visitstoke.co.uk Tel: 0870 060 6649. Or in person from Victoria Hall, Bagnall Street, Cultural Quarter, City Centre(formerly Hanley), Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, ST1 3AD 3. The general layout for the evening is(according to Soda Pictures, the distributor); 7pm Doors open, with a film showing shortly after. 9-9.30 Introductions and Music from Keb Darge, Eddie Pillar and Huey Morgan(Fun Lovin Criminals) 12mid-4am ish Kev Roberts,Dave Evison,Russ Winstanley 'Casino Anthems' ala 1974, the year the movie is based on. 4-7am Jo Wallace, Liam Quinn and Guests. Remember...Tickets only available from Stoke on Trent Tourism..above. In a nutshell, this is a Fun,Showbizzy type night bathed in nostalgia. This is how the promoters(Soda Pictures/Ipso Factor films) have designed it. If you decide to come along, enjoy yourself, but remember this is NOT the usual All Nighter as in Saturday,July 17th. Goldsoul's next All nighters at the Kings Hall are OCTOBER 2nd,DECEMBER 11th. Cheers, Kev STOKE ON TRENT COUNCIL OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE; Soulboy signs go up across Stoke-on-Trent The City of Stoke-on-Trent is to take star billing in a new movie charting the rise of the Northern Soul scene of the 1970s. The city has been chosen as the backdrop for a story which tells the tale of a teenager who learns about life and love through the infectious beat of Northern Soul music. A host of venues across the city were used in the shooting of the new movie, entitled Souled Out. But pride of place goes to Kings Hall in Stoke, which not only plays the part of the legendary Wigan Casino (which shut in 1981), but also holds its own Northern Soul all-nighters to this day. Directed by Shimmy Marcus, the film is set in 1974 and stars Martin Compston as Stoke City fan Joe MacCain, a bored and restless 19-year-old who has never left the confines of "The Potteries". He meets Jane who introduces him to Northern Soul and a world of exciting music and dance which he never knew existed. The film, which also stars Pat Shortt, Alfie Allen and Huey Morgan of the Fun Loving Criminals, features an original soundtrack of Northern Soul, including Tainted Love and On My Way. The legendary Bernard Butler, of Suede and Duffy fame has composed the music for the film. Producer Christine Alderson grew up in nearby Stone, and is adamant the film will help to put Stoke-on-Trent on the movie map of Great Britain. Shimmy Marcus added: "We spent a long time looking for somewhere to film, and Kings Hall is the most perfect venue. It's beautiful and is the closest resemblance to Wigan Casino you are going to get anywhere. I went to an all-nighter at the Kings Hall with another member of the crew and we were smiling to each other and saying this is the place to be. There's a hotbed of Northern Soul still very much alive in this city." That's not too surprising, given that Stoke-on-Trent (or Soul-on-Trent as it was dubbed in the 1960s and 70s) was also at the very heart of Britain's Northern Soul sub-culture. Leading the way then was The Golden Torch, a club in the back streets of Tunstall which drew fans from all over the Midlands and the North West. Such was the influence of The Torch that its logo, of a silhouetted hand holding a smoking torch aloft, became a national symbol of the whole movement. DJ and promoter Kev Roberts has staged Northern Soul all-nighters in Stoke-on- Trent since 1996 and claims the scene is bigger now than ever before. And the makers of Soulboy found plenty of suitable locations for filming in Stoke-on- Trent...as well as up to 1,000 extras for the dance scenes. "Northern Soul is still very much alive and kicking in Stoke-on-Trent," says Tourism Manager Julie Obada, adding: "We're pretty sure that we'll receive a new wave of visitors once the movie hits the screens in the Autumn. And we'll be ready to point them in the right direction whether they want to go to all-nighters, or simply visit some of the locations used in the filming of the movie." [Ends] For further information, and images, please contact: Julie Obada Tel: 01782-232701 E-mail: tourism@stoke.gov.uk Web: www.visitstoke.co.uk Edited July 26, 2010 by The Golden 101 Link to comment
Anton L Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I would rather put my genitals in the microwave on defrost for an hour!! To be fair I go to the Kings hall for the normal Nighter, a night with sponsors, crew and "creative film types" is my idea of hell, while they eloquently swear at one another to show how hip they are and wow at the "Northern Soul" dancers I think I may find myself being arrested for accidentally dropping one of them off the balcony! after my experience at the premier of SOUL FUNCTION with people treating us as exhibits, asking theee most stupid questions about our scene... " So, when you go to these all-nighters, do you go all night?" See you in October, where I can play with my preferred toys..... Handbaggers!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
Paul-s Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) Oh dear!! If this dubious venture was doing well, they wouldn't be showing it at nighters, it would be in cinemas! Asit is they seem to be force feeding it to those stupid enough to put up with it... Edited July 26, 2010 by paul-s Link to comment
Anton L Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Oh no don't get me wrong, I still want to see the film just to find out what their take on our scene is. I am sure it will be as accurate and true to life as Zulu, Quadrophenia, Tarzan or Titanic but it won't change the memories that sit in my mind and heart, and wont taint the my future nites. I waited with fascination, for the KFC ads, The only thing that made me cringe was the documentary on Cleethorps weekender and for no other reason than, people seeing what my friends and I do at the weekend. Stand back from our scene and look at it from an outsiders point of view and you would piss yourself laughing, old men and women throwing themselves about all-night, arguing and bickering over oldies, newies, 60, modern, R&B, which promoter has the right to what town or date, 50 and 60 year old men still throwing their weight around. All in all a comedy, BUT it's our comedy and from the inside it is still fantastic and years ago no one from any youth culture would dare to think that they would still be doing it all in their 40s 50s and 60s. I would not travel up from Kent most weekends if I didn't have such fantastic friends, hear good sounds, and most of all have a great laugh. KEEP THE FLUFF!!! Link to comment
Ady Croasdell Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Wow, broadcast live around the UK and Ireland, it's getting like Live Aid without the good cause. Link to comment
Simsy Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 AND BE RECORDED LIVE TO BE BROADCAST INTO CLUBS ACROSS THE UK AND IRELAND. Oh dear.. Link to comment
Guest POTTERIESPECK Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 [1. 2. The capacity attendance for this one off occasion is 1,400. 600 tickets are held for Cast,Crew, VIP's etc etc with 800 on sale now from Stoke on Trent Tourism. E-mail: tourism@stoke.gov.uk Web: www.visitstoke.co.uk Tel: 0870 060 6649. Or in person from Victoria Hall, Bagnall Street, Cultural Quarter, City Centre(formerly Hanley), Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, ST1 3AD 3.. Remember...Tickets only available from Stoke on Trent Tourism..above. IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THE 800 PUNTERS WHO ARE BEING CHARGED £20 A THROW ARE PAYING FOR THE P*SS UP FOR 600 V IP'S's WHO ARE ATTENDING..MAKE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT I SHALL BE ASKING THE LOCAL COUNCIL HOW THAY CAN JUSTIFY 600 VIP GUESTS AND IF THE TAX PAYERS OF STOKE WILL BE PAYING TOWARDS IT . OR CAN KEV ELABORATE IF SODA PICTURES ARE TOTALLY PAYING FOR THE LOT Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Soda Pictures are the distributor for the film. Ipso Factor produced it. I suspect both parties are looking to get maximum publicity while covering their costs. Link to comment
Anton L Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) [1. 2. The capacity attendance for this one off occasion is 1,400. 600 tickets are held for Cast,Crew, VIP's etc etc with 800 on sale now from Stoke on Trent Tourism. E-mail: tourism@stoke.gov.uk Web: www.visitstoke.co.uk Tel: 0870 060 6649. Or in person from Victoria Hall, Bagnall Street, Cultural Quarter, City Centre(formerly Hanley), Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, ST1 3AD 3.. Remember...Tickets only available from Stoke on Trent Tourism..above. IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THE 800 PUNTERS WHO ARE BEING CHARGED £20 A THROW ARE PAYING FOR THE P*SS UP FOR 600 V IP'S's WHO ARE ATTENDING..MAKE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT I SHALL BE ASKING THE LOCAL COUNCIL HOW THAY CAN JUSTIFY 600 VIP GUESTS AND IF THE TAX PAYERS OF STOKE WILL BE PAYING TOWARDS IT . OR CAN KEV ELABORATE IF SODA PICTURES ARE TOTALLY PAYING FOR THE LOT Not to forget the pound parking now impossed take your layout to £22.50 only to be joined by councellors and every day people that WON'T understand our way of life. Although Kev may be the Marmite man of the scene, he provides a Nighter at The Kings Hall for £12.00 advance £15.00 on the door. and has a projector showing videos on the back wall sometimes!! with no councellors. Edited July 27, 2010 by Anton L Link to comment
Anton L Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Never like to presume, so I e-mailed Ipso Facto Films and they contacted me very promptly. I had a good conversation with the very nice lady, who explained to me this showing is in no way run by them but by the distributor Soda Films and Stoke City council, not Kev Roberts, he is an employed DJ by these organizations, and yes I am sure he will be paid good luck to him, it's not a charity event!!! Link to comment
Geeselad Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 I'm always a reg at the usual allnighter and was looking forward to seeing the flick but have real doubts about this, for one thing sitting down to the film, I presume they'll be seating? at 7.30 then straight into a nighter, doent sound like a great formula. Bunch of suits, or even casually attired industry types watching the baggies going at it to the top 100, hmmmmmmmmmh, interesting as me mate Jezwin would say. Link to comment
Soul Jen Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I'm soooo looking forward to this...really enjoyed 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan' play in Manchester followed by the Niter so this is gonna be special too. Soul Jen xx Link to comment
Guest gordon russell Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Oh dear!! If this dubious venture was doing well, they wouldn't be showing it at nighters, it would be in cinemas! Asit is they seem to be force feeding it to those stupid enough to put up with it... lets make an educated guess..................that there's plenty of those around ....ya won,t be able ta move for 50 inch bags and curly wirly circle skirts........all in the best possible taste:lol: lots of old people trying to dance as if they were 15/16 again.....all this filming brings back memories of the 70's ......which was also like this event TO BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS.........peggy babcock oh sorry forgot.......it's my life Link to comment
Guest soul elite Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) Well we're really looking forward to it and with an open mind! Edited August 19, 2010 by soul elite Link to comment
LittleAv Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 IPSO FACTO FILMS HAVE KINDLY DONATED 2 TICKETS TO THE MANIFESTO SOUL CLUB FOR THIS EVENT. TICKETS ARE ADVERTISED AT £20 EACH - IF YOU WOULD LIKE THESE 2 TICKETS YOU CAN HAVE THEM FOR £15 THE PAIR (BUYER TO COLLECT FROM YORKSHIRE). THE MONEY RAISED WILL BE DONATED TO OUR CHOSEN CHARITY - THE JACK KITCHING APPEAL. FURTHER DETAILS REGARDING JACK CAN BE FOUND ON JACK'S PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE:- IF INTERESTED PLEASE SEND ME A PM. MANY THANKS Link to comment
Anton L Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Anyone going to give an honest, sensible, unbiased account of this event. It will be interesting how an event run by Soda Pictures and Stoke Council went, and what was the verdict on the film? I know this film will be directed at the cinema going public. I am not expecting it to capture accurately the experiences of regular soulies as I don't think that would be possible. I would love to know that once people see this film, will they look at our current scene with envy, scorn........ what? do we need to deny any knowledge of this scene!!!!! Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) Anton, Here's our checklist following last nights spectacle. 1. The publicity surrounding NS generated by the hype is good for the scene. 2. The film is OK. Not brilliant, not terrible. 3. The All Nighter was average at best. It was on too long. Too many luvvies, not enough real fans. Crowd thinned out by 2am. 4. Personal criticism...took too long to generate atmosphere. The evening needed to be taken by the scruff of the neck to create that usual Kings Hall vibe. 5. October 2nd- back to the real McCoy Edited August 22, 2010 by The Golden 101 Link to comment
Anton L Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Cheers Kev, just as I imagined, didn't go as I don't trust my self to be nice to irritating artsy fakes, after attending an event some time back promoting the short, light hearted film SOUL FUNCTION, during the evening we got told off for making a luvvie cry and tripping up a designer hippie while he attempted to emulate the film on the dance floor.....we were bored!!! Kings hall balcony screams, Sloan hippie launch pad!!! and my tank top was in the wash!! Good luck to to film, we visited during filming. The director, staff and extras worked their nuts off, hats off. Hope their production is as they wanted it. Link to comment
Guest Phoenix8049 Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Anton, Here's our checklist following last nights spectacle. 1. The publicity surrounding NS generated by the hype is good for the scene. 2. The film is OK. Not brilliant, not terrible. 3. The All Nighter was average at best. It was on too long. Too many luvvies, not enough real fans. Crowd thinned out by 2am. 4. Personal criticism...took too long to generate atmosphere. The evening needed to be taken by the scruff of the neck to generate that usual Kings Hall vibe. 5. October 2nd- back to the real McCoy Yes i agree with most of what you say as well. The people that were there that helped create this film, did seem to have a genuine enthusiasm about the scene. Not sure many people who have never been on the scene at one time or another in there lives will go to see it anyway. Myself and all my friends there agreed the film was pretty good for what it was. But without giving too much away, I think they got most things right,about the scene back then,except the toilets at the casino in the film were a lot cleaner than in real life lol. As for the night itself. We all agreed it maybe started too early We were there for 7 pm and by the time we left at 4 am that made 9 hours,which is longer than your averedge all nighter anyway. There did seem to be something missing from the night that your usuall stoke all nighter has,it just did not seem quite the same. The DJs were all excellent and played some great stuff as well. All in all I did enjoy the night,and i am glad i went,but a lot of the that was due to my great company of friends that i had around me there. Stu. Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) One thing I find strange about the whole hype of the film....WHERE IS IT SHOWING? There is absolutely no publicity or list of cinemas you can travel to! In fact it's the most asked question at present. Anyone got the answer? Edited August 22, 2010 by The Golden 101 Link to comment
Wiggyflat Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 One thing I find strange about the whole hype of the film....WHERE IS IT SHOWING? There is absolutely no publicity or list of cinemas you can travel to! In fact it's the most asked question at present. Anyone got the answer? Maybe they are busy trying to find their stolen van to worry about such matters. Link to comment
Anton L Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 OOoooh please, don't tell us it's the van with the master of the film in it. I can see a new production in the making already "THE DUKES OF HANLEY" with Boss (Winstanley) Hogg chasing a white van down the A500, with Moonshine Soussan knocking out bootlegs from the back of Gladstone Potteries. Bo Roberts and Luke Evison two wheeling it round the corner after City of Stoke on Trent Council van containing their Records!! OOoops getting carried away Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 OOoooh please, don't tell us it's the van with the master of the film in it. I can see a new production in the making already "THE DUKES OF HANLEY" with Boss (Winstanley) Hogg chasing a white van down the A500, with Moonshine Soussan knocking out bootlegs from the back of Gladstone Potteries. Bo Roberts and Luke Evison two wheeling it round the corner after City of Stoke on Trent Council van containing their Records!! OOoops getting carried away Anton.....it's a better script than the one they used Link to comment
Johnmcc Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 One thing I find strange about the whole hype of the film....WHERE IS IT SHOWING? There is absolutely no publicity or list of cinemas you can travel to! In fact it's the most asked question at present. Anyone got the answer? Try the remainder bin in POUNDLAND at Christmas. Link to comment
souldivawax Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I must admit we would not have gone unless we had free tickets, but we did have a good evening. Very few people followed the dress code of 1974ish except people who dress like that anyway. We go all over the country most weekends but knew very few people there so I don't know where they all came from. The night was remeniscent of Wigan days because they made everyone queue up so the venue was full from the off. We went to the left side of the room at the front near the stage because thats where we used to stand at Wigan. Everyone was dancing and the floor was full right from the start. Yes, there were cameramen there but we've had that before. We were invited to bring our chairs onto the floor to watch the film, which we did. It was funny and cheesy and fitted with most peoples first taste of the northern soul scene. Yes I have danced to Tiger Feet before becoming enlightened. Yes I did wear divvi clothes and on my second visit to Wigan when asked 'what gear have you brought?' answered quite seriously 'a spare skirt and top' as I had no experience of the drug scene. Most of the cast looked true to life as did the general neglect of the area and the era. Go and see it (if you can find out where its on) and make up your own mind. On the downside, because it started so early many people were ready to go home by 2pm and the place was empty by 5am but I remember going to the Saturday after the Friday oldies at Wigan when DJ's tried out wierd stuff and the floor was empty so quite authentic. If I'm going to listen to oldies all night I'd rather listen to what Keb Darge and Dave Evison played on Saturday than the same old same old that is trotted out at venues around the country by Kev Roberts and the Goldsoul crew. Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Goldsoul crew? There wasn't anyone representing them except me'. DJ wise, Keb Darge took forever to get it going and he clearly failed miserably in the communication department. In my professional opinion, a terrible performance. I see Dave regularly and he's a close mate. I rarely see Russ. But without any disrespect to Keb, Liam, Jo and Eddie Piller, the night needed very experienced up North talent to get this night going. Sadly the luvvy promoters were oblivious to that fact. Roll on October 2nd, when Goldsoul will continue to show wannabees how to do it! 600 Free tickets on Saturday and they still only pulled 800! Goldsoul DJs still have 1,000 in at 3am! Think again to what you actually witnessed. Link to comment
Ian Parker Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) whatever you do Kev, there will always be knockers. Roll on the next Niter at Kings Hall IAN Edited August 23, 2010 by parkash Link to comment
souldivawax Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Goldsoul crew? There wasn't anyone representing them except me'. DJ wise, Keb Darge took forever to get it going and he clearly failed miserably in the communication department. In my professional opinion, a terrible performance. I see Dave regularly and he's a close mate. I rarely see Russ. But without any disrespect to Keb, Liam, Jo and Eddie Piller, the night needed very experienced up North talent to get this night going. Sadly the luvvy promoters were oblivious to that fact. Roll on October 2nd, when Goldsoul will continue to show wannabees how to do it! 600 Free tickets on Saturday and they still only pulled 800! Goldsoul DJs still have 1,000 in at 3am! Think again to what you actually witnessed. Link to comment
souldivawax Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I meant you! Once I'd listened to 15 mins of your spot I knew how it would pan out and got sick of all the talking over the intros so went out for a walk. Wherever we go, Whitby, Blackpool, Stoke etc we hear the same records over and over in the big rooms. It was nice to hear oldies from Wigan which are UNDERplayed. Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) That's ok. I'll take any criticism. But that night needed rescuing. Russ did a pretty good job in dealing with the punters that were left. But the damage was done long before. Even one of the organisers politely asked if I could lift the mood. She too saw a lack of DJ intelligence on the night. And apart from Tommy Hunt's Loving On The Losing Side which opened my set to deliberately lift spirits, I can't think of too many that bombed out. Ironically, the ones that did were Billy Prophet and The Ambers! Real underplayed Wigan oldies. As I said the damage was done long before. Finally, for the record, if Goldsoul had been contracted to shape the entertainment, this is how it would have looked. 8 Open doors with Classic Background music as people enter. 9 Kev to set the scene 10 the film and meet the cast 12 Richard Searling 1 Ady Croasdell to represent the South 2 Russ 3 Dave Evison 4-7 Rare and lesser played tracks with Nige Brown,Ginger, Butch, Rob Smith or similar. The luvvies would have had fun. The real fans would have got their moneys worth. Glad to see you visit our events at Stoke, Whitby and Blackpool. I totally respect our booked DJs and often play a similar role of building the night up so they can score the goals. Sadly I was on too late to do that on Saturday. Sorry for the long critique but that's my job. Ps Keb is a top guy and a monster at Stafford revivals and Internationally too. But way off beam 48 hours ago. In my humblest but professional of opinions. Hope you continue to support our gigs and the scene in general. Edited August 23, 2010 by The Golden 101 Link to comment
KevH Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Maybe they are busy trying to find their stolen van to worry about such matters. Police claim they are looking for 200 rare soul "dj's" with a sense of humour. Link to comment
souldivawax Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 That's ok. I'll take any criticism. But that night needed rescuing. Russ did a pretty good job in dealing with the punters that were left. But the damage was done long before. Even one of the organisers politely asked if I could lift the mood. She too saw a lack of DJ intelligence on the night. And apart from Tommy Hunt's Loving On The Losing Side which opened my set to deliberately lift spirits, I can't think of too many that bombed out. Ironically, the ones that did were Billy Prophet and The Ambers! Real underplayed Wigan oldies. As I said the damage was done long before. Finally, for the record, if Goldsoul had been contracted to shape the entertainment, this is how it would have looked. 8 Open doors with Classic Background music as people enter. 9 Kev to set the scene 10 the film and meet the cast 12 Richard Searling 1 Ady Croasdell to represent the South 2 Russ 3 Dave Evison 4-7 Rare and lesser played tracks with Nige Brown,Ginger, Butch, Rob Smith or similar. The luvvies would have had fun. The real fans would have got their moneys worth. Glad to see you visit our events at Stoke, Whitby and Blackpool. I totally respect our booked DJs and often play a similar role of building the night up so they can score the goals. Sadly I was on too late to do that on Saturday. Sorry for the long critique but that's my job. Ps Keb is a top guy and a monster at Stafford revivals and Internationally too. But way off beam 48 hours ago. In my humblest but professional of opinions. Hope you continue to support our gigs and the scene in general. I agree that it should have started later, and that Nige and Ginger would have been great additions and I think that Soda are not too good at organising events but there are so many great old underplayed records that there is no need for Epitome of Sound, Frankie Beverley, Frank Wilson, etc, etc at every single event. Thank goodness for Soul Sam and Colin Curtis!!!!! :-) Link to comment
Wiganer1 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 That's ok. I'll take any criticism. But that night needed rescuing. Russ did a pretty good job in dealing with the punters that were left. But the damage was done long before. Even one of the organisers politely asked if I could lift the mood. She too saw a lack of DJ intelligence on the night. And apart from Tommy Hunt's Loving On The Losing Side which opened my set to deliberately lift spirits, I can't think of too many that bombed out. Ironically, the ones that did were Billy Prophet and The Ambers! Real underplayed Wigan oldies. As I said the damage was done long before. Finally, for the record, if Goldsoul had been contracted to shape the entertainment, this is how it would have looked. 8 Open doors with Classic Background music as people enter. 9 Kev to set the scene 10 the film and meet the cast 12 Richard Searling 1 Ady Croasdell to represent the South 2 Russ 3 Dave Evison 4-7 Rare and lesser played tracks with Nige Brown,Ginger, Butch, Rob Smith or similar. The luvvies would have had fun. The real fans would have got their moneys worth. Glad to see you visit our events at Stoke, Whitby and Blackpool. I totally respect our booked DJs and often play a similar role of building the night up so they can score the goals. Sadly I was on too late to do that on Saturday. Sorry for the long critique but that's my job. Ps Keb is a top guy and a monster at Stafford revivals and Internationally too. But way off beam 48 hours ago. In my humblest but professional of opinions. Hope you continue to support our gigs and the scene in general. ======================================= keb did a brilliant oldies spot at the London oldies allniter last year......so im surprised he didnt do it at Stoke trouble is with UNDER played Wigan stuff some are that forgotten they would seem like NEWIES and people would be reluctant to dance.... very difficult getting the balance right however experienced the DJ!! oh well see u on the 2nd Kev... Link to comment
Mrtag Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) Never a truer word spoken Mark, but you have to have the DJ's who you know can pull out all the stops when needed!! Obviously not the case at this one! Kev Might not be flavour of the month but I have to agree with HIS team selection on this one.it's horses for courses and I think his DJ team would have hit the spot at this type of event!! imho Atb John. Edited August 24, 2010 by mrtag Link to comment
Wiganer1 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 who were the other djs??? Link to comment
Mrtag Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 who were the other djs??? Hi Mark, this would have been the Fantasy league team; Finally, for the record, if Goldsoul had been contracted to shape the entertainment, this is how it would have looked. 8 Open doors with Classic Background music as people enter. 9 Kev to set the scene 10 the film and meet the cast 12 Richard Searling 1 Ady Croasdell to represent the South 2 Russ 3 Dave Evison 4-7 Rare and lesser played tracks with Nige Brown,Ginger, Butch, Rob Smith or similar. Again not necessarily my choices but these guy's would have done the job required for this kind of event !! IMHO Atb John. Link to comment
Wiganer1 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 ,i was wondering who actually djed on the nite?? would ave gone but was djing elsewhere,and £20 seemed a bit steep the normal niters at stoke are just superb so may see you there at the next one.... atb mark Link to comment
Mrtag Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 ,i was wondering who actually djed on the nite?? would ave gone but was djing elsewhere,and £20 seemed a bit steep the normal niters at stoke are just superb so may see you there at the next one.... atb mark Sorry mark misunderstood you I thought you wanted to know kevs Choice! Atb John. Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 ,i was wondering who actually djed on the nite?? would ave gone but was djing elsewhere,and £20 seemed a bit steep the normal niters at stoke are just superb so may see you there at the next one.... atb mark Mark the line-up on Saturday was 7pm Keb Darge 8 Film 10 Keb 11 Eddie Piller 12 Russ 1.30 Kev 3 Dave Ev 4.30 Liam Quinn 5.30 Jo Wallace 7 End. Again, in my professional opinion, a disjointed line-up for Stoke. However, two thirds of the attendees had never been to the Kings Hall before, so it was a difficult gig for the DJ's. Earlier postings suggest the Epitome of Sound's and Frank Wilson's are overplayed. Of course they are, but boy did you need them on Sat. I even lost most of the floor to the Ambers-Potion of Love! Saturday was a one off- October 2nd will be back to the real deal. Soulboy though has got the UK talking about NS, so there are many positives. But trust me, the premiere night was difficult to get a result. It could have been much better though if someone had got that crowd in a party mood early doors then eased in more quality later on. As it was, it never got going on the dance floor. The organisers were never going to focus on the 10 hours of dancing as they were too busy socialising. I did offer to step down as a DJ and MC the night instead, allowing DJ's to whip up enthusiasm via gentle prompts. They politely declined. And I doubt they even realise or care! Link to comment
Guest dave nowell Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Mark the line-up on Saturday was 7pm Keb Darge 8 Film 10 Keb 11 Eddie Piller 12 Russ 1.30 Kev 3 Dave Ev 4.30 Liam Quinn 5.30 Jo Wallace 7 End. Again, in my professional opinion, a disjointed line-up for Stoke. However, two thirds of the attendees had never been to the Kings Hall before, so it was a difficult gig for the DJ's. Earlier postings suggest the Epitome of Sound's and Frank Wilson's are overplayed. Of course they are, but boy did you need them on Sat. I even lost most of the floor to the Ambers-Potion of Love! Saturday was a one off- October 2nd will be back to the real deal. Soulboy though has got the UK talking about NS, so there are many positives. But trust me, the premiere night was difficult to get a result. It could have been much better though if someone had got that crowd in a party mood early doors then eased in more quality later on. As it was, it never got going on the dance floor. The organisers were never going to focus on the 10 hours of dancing as they were too busy socialising. I did offer to step down as a DJ and MC the night instead, allowing DJ's to whip up enthusiasm via gentle prompts. They politely declined. And I doubt they even realise or care! Did no-one try to talk them out of staging an all-nighter? Surely an 8 till 2 session would have been far better for the luvvies, and the few hundred soul fans who wanted to be at the premiere. Even an all-dayer - remember Levine's daytime film launch at Blackburn?. The only way that place was going to be full was having Kev and his team promoting it and pushing it to real soulies What a shame for all involved...............whatever the film is like it deserved to be launched with a bang Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Dave- Northern Soul is so interesting and excels passion that professionals tasting it for the first time such as film makers generally stick to their own profession. Some get carried away and end up thinking they know more than they actually do. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. One particular individual made the big mistake of talking to me for 5 hours then spent 6 years talking to hundreds of different people. You either know or you don't know! In the end, ego took over and the night was orchestrated by clueless individuals. The Stoke promoter and full time NS guy was there to map it all out for them for..... Free! They missed an open goal...in fact they didn't even hit the bar. But as I said, they are getting publicity for the film so job done....for them. Link to comment
Little-stevie Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 How could they dare turn down your offer Kev... You are the King... Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Once again Steve you are right. Link to comment
Little-stevie Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 You should have been steering the titanic kev but they just had you stoking the boiler.. Maybe that would have not saved you hitting the iceburg though.. A lot of poor reviews and £20 a ticket don't get that many folk moist i guess.. As the king says" yet another own goal" .. Interesting feedback kev, you have taken it over now,ha ha.. More plug than a plumbers merchants. Any other feedback folks?? Did the night really miss kevs dream team..? Link to comment
Goldsoul Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Steve- Aren't you supposed to be moderating? Link to comment
Little-stevie Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Yes kev. But the whole forum is the garden of eden for me, i want it to smell of roses, and not like the cattle have been leaving droppings again. Any more feedback folks, of interest to many indeed.. Link to comment
Professorturnups Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Still waiting to see the film but the lead actor was on BBC1 Breakfast TV this morning and has learnt the vastly used skill of upping the attendance figure at the Stoke premiere (1000, but only 800 acc. to Kev Roberts) Mark C Link to comment
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