Guest ShaneH Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Well, you know me Shane, Mr Diplomacy Jamie a bit boring but hey everyone loves a winner see ya tomorrow hopefully old lad Shane Link to comment
Quinvy Posted October 7, 2005 Author Share Posted October 7, 2005 Have been watching this thread for a few days now. Having been to The Greatstone and Soul Or Nothing, I can say that they both serve up something different, all IMVHO of course. Maybe just because every record isn't worth 4 figures, does that make it crap and un-dance-able??? It seems from the playlist that the only stuff you want to dance to, Phil, is a Mega-Rarity?? I really like the sound of your night, I too enjoy listening to different sounds, but another night that clashes with an established night in the Manchester area defeats the whole object to be honest. I thought Lifeline/Sheridans was brilliant. But they ran every 2 months and very rarely got 250+ (I stand to be corrected here!). Do you think you are going to attract the numbers to fill out a 'specialist' night, because that's what it is, when it clashes with another night locally? I'm not speaking on behalf of either of the promoters, but I don't think they promote themselves as the 'rarest of the rare' nights. What they offer is something different than Brighouse, Prestwich et al. Various guest DJ's will play different styles, especially at S.O.N. where the emphasis is very much on giving up-and-coming DJ's and collectors an opportunity to play their tunes to an open-minded crowd. Like Tony already mentioned, the guests that are on at The Greatstone are pretty much A List. The sample playlist from your night is pretty much what I would expect from Mick H, Keith Money etc, and IMVHO no different to what they would play guesting at The Greatstone or S.O.N. Wish you luck Phil, I admire your balls for having a go, it's never easy doing this promoting lark, but I feel that you would be given all the support in the world from other local venues if your dates didn't clash. For example the Greatstone boys support S.O.N. and vice versa. These are just my musings, and in no way are they the opinions of the aforementioned. I just think with better planning etc... well, you know All the best, Jamie (p.s. I thought the Pirates were hilairious, then again, I don't take things too serious ) I think you have all taken my comments too seriously. Much of it was with tongue very much in cheek.I have not deliberately clashed with s.o.n. in fact I have tried my damdest not to clash with anything [impossible]. In fact, I would be going there myself if not for the clash. I don't want to be a promoter, don't like the politics, but if I'm going to do something, then I'm gonna try and do it proprely. This started out as an attempt to create a buz for my night. One comment made tongue in cheek started this lot. And they say there's no such thing as bad publicity. All any of us can do is state a personal opinion. And that's all I've done. Thanks to everyone for their input in this thread, I have learned a lot from it. Hope to see you all at the next soul or nothing. Best Regards, Phil. Link to comment
Reg Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I think you have all taken my comments too seriously. Much of it was with tongue very much in cheek.I have not deliberately clashed with s.o.n. in fact I have tried my damdest not to clash with anything [impossible]. In fact, I would be going there myself if not for the clash. I don't want to be a promoter, don't like the politics, but if I'm going to do something, then I'm gonna try and do it proprely. This started out as an attempt to create a buz for my night. One comment made tongue in cheek started this lot. And they say there's no such thing as bad publicity. All any of us can do is state a personal opinion. And that's all I've done. Thanks to everyone for their input in this thread, I have learned a lot from it. Hope to see you all at the next soul or nothing. Best Regards, Phil. Oh I think I remember you now from a couple of months ago-I was doing the door at S.O.N and you gave me some flyers to put out...I was the big lass on the door (excuse tho, was very pregnant)...I'll charge you double next time.... Link to comment
Jumpinjoan Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I would like to know what Joan thinks about Phil listing things considered to be rubbish about Soul or Nothing? Shane She thinks she'll just keep her big mouth shut from now on and leave it to you boys .... seconds out ... Link to comment
Guest ShaneH Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 She thinks she'll just keep her big mouth shut from now on and leave it to you boys .... seconds out ... same here Joan. hope you didnt take me the wrong way. i dont want you karate kicking me on the dancefloor Shane Link to comment
Jumpinjoan Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 same here Joan. hope you didnt take me the wrong way. i dont want you karate kicking me on the dancefloor Shane Not a chance Shane ..... see ya Saturday fella Link to comment
Guest ShaneH Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Not a chance Shane ..... see ya Saturday fella nice one Joan See ya saturday Shane Link to comment
Tony Jackson Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) Why does it have to always come down to 'my soul nite's better than your soul nite'? Not once did i compare this nite to the Greatstone or any other nite. All i intended to do was to give people an idea of what to expect to hear if they go. I have no agenda in doing so ... i have nothing to do with the running of this or any venue. I'm a punter .... i just go and dance. No matter what you play ...... there'll always someone ready to put you down for it! We all know that!! Hence the saying "you can't please all the people, all the time". Does the fact that you've heard a record a lot make it any less of a good record? Of course not. What makes a GOOD record a GREAT record? Well for me ..... it's a record that sounds as good the LAST time i heard it, as it did the FIRST time i heard it, no matter HOW MANY times i've heard it! And in my oppinion ... those are five great soul records. But opinnions are like arseholes .... everyone's got one! Come on guys .... the music is the star of the northern soul scene ... not any of us! It's bigger than ANY VENUE .... ANY DJ ..... ANY EGO. Surely that's one thing we can all agree on ..... Hi Joan, Thanks for posting up the playlist from the last Soulvation. Have to agree with what you say about 'my soul nights better than your soul night', theres definitely no need for it. All that was asked of Phil, by me anyway, politely i might add, was just to explain his musical preferences, no more. You v'e done that for him, a list that would grace any soul night in the land. Strangely though, most of which has been played at the Greatstone, some of which are still being played at the Greatstone, some have been 'gracefully retired after years of faithful service' at the Greatstone, you are bang on right, all very good records, quite a few 'classic' rare soul tracks,no question, no debate!!.This was n't about comparing club against club, it was about determining musical tastes, thats all. I think that was where the confusion lay, with me anyway, i had an idea what sort of stuff Phil liked, and i also had an idea that we at the GS would have been likely to have played it,and he would have been likely to have heard it, especially if he had been on a number of occasions (by the way Phil introduce yourself to me, if you ever get over again) so end of story really, matter resolved.I have no interest, like yourself, in making comparisons with other clubs/nights, i'll leave that to people with more time,and different agendas. The scene, the music, is bigger than all of us, and anything positive we can bring to it , we should endevour to do.......I'm fillin up ere!!. I hope no offence has been caused by this lively debate, none was intended, by me anyway.I really think that this is what this forum should be all about, fair minded opinions. And So.....the weekend....have a good un....wherever you choose to shuffle......Tony Edited October 8, 2005 by Tony Jackson Link to comment
steve z Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I think you have all taken my comments too seriously. Much of it was with tongue very much in cheek.I have not deliberately clashed with s.o.n. in fact I have tried my damdest not to clash with anything [impossible]. In fact, I would be going there myself if not for the clash. I don't want to be a promoter, don't like the politics, but if I'm going to do something, then I'm gonna try and do it proprely. This started out as an attempt to create a buz for my night. One comment made tongue in cheek started this lot. And they say there's no such thing as bad publicity. All any of us can do is state a personal opinion. And that's all I've done. Thanks to everyone for their input in this thread, I have learned a lot from it. Hope to see you all at the next soul or nothing. Best Regards, Phil. Link to comment
steve z Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I think you have all taken my comments too seriously. Much of it was with tongue very much in cheek.I have not deliberately clashed with s.o.n. in fact I have tried my damdest not to clash with anything [impossible]. In fact, I would be going there myself if not for the clash. I don't want to be a promoter, don't like the politics, but if I'm going to do something, then I'm gonna try and do it proprely. This started out as an attempt to create a buz for my night. One comment made tongue in cheek started this lot. And they say there's no such thing as bad publicity. All any of us can do is state a personal opinion. And that's all I've done. Thanks to everyone for their input in this thread, I have learned a lot from it. Hope to see you all at the next soul or nothing. Best Regards, Phil. Hi Phil, have a Great(stone)night!!Stevie z Link to comment
Jumpinjoan Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Thanks Tony ..... couldn't have put it better myself. See you Saturday ..... can't wait!! Link to comment
Jumpinjoan Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 couldn't have said it better myself. See you on Saturday, I'm sure we will be introduced as I'll be there with a friend of yours Joan Look forward to it!! ..... that's considering your mate still wants to go after you've gone told the whole of the soul scene that they're a friend of mine!! PS: who is the poor bugger ..... i mean .... lucky person? Link to comment
Guest sharynm Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Look forward to it!! ..... that's considering your mate still wants to go after you've gone told the whole of the soul scene that they're a friend of mine!! PS: who is the poor bugger ..... i mean .... lucky person? Mr Murphy and Vanessa will be joining us Link to comment
Jumpinjoan Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Mr Murphy and Vanessa will be joining us Whey hey!! Great stuff!! Link to comment
Mark B Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 hi phil good luck with your night, as you will find it takes a lot of time and no small effort to convince people that what you are trying to do and type of music you want to play/hear/dance to is for them, it has taken a long time for the Greatstone to get to where it is with people travelling and a lot of regular attendess who like what we play and the venue which is a big contributor to the atmosphere. As jamie said we have never promoted the Greatstone as a rare night nor has soul or nothing, just somewhere to hear good music and meet nice people i can tell you are a big 60's fan so a lot of my spots would not giveyou too much of what you would want to dance to being the 70's and 60's freak that i am :dance: also the odd bit of 80's good luck with your night and i hope over time you get what you hope for. Mark, the good looking half of the greatstone partnership also the modest one. Link to comment
Guest THE BRIGADIER Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 THIS SATURDAY NIGHT 8th OCTOBER AT THE PALATINE CLUB, NORFOLK STREET, NELSON, LANCS. [behind morrisons] THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND NIGHT WE'VE HAD, MISSED LAST MONTH TO AVOID CLASHING WITH OTHER EVENTS. THE FIRST ONE WAS A CORKER, SO IF YOU MISSED IT DON'T MISS THIS. IT'S A FANTASTIC VENUE WITH A LARGE MAPLE DANCE FLOOR, SUPERB SOUND SYSTEM AND THE CHEAPEST BAR IN THE COUNTRY. NOT ONLY THAT BUT THE MUSIC POLICY IS STRICTLY 6Ts UPFRONT, RARE AND QUALITY SOUL. RECORD DEALERS ARE VERY WELCOME. OK WE HAD A FEW PROBLEMS LAST TIME, MAIN ONE BEING IT WAS TOO DARK TO SEE THE RECORDS FOR SALE. THIS HAS BEEN SORTED, AS I'VE BEEN OUT AND BOUGHT SOME LIGHTING, AND SPECIAL TABLES FOR THE DEALERS WILL BE AVAILABLE THIS TIME. THE CLUB HAS ALSO HAD A COMPLAINT FROM A LOCAL RESIDENT, [nothing to do with our night] BUT AS A RESULT THEIR EXTENTION HAS BEEN RECINDED. THIS UNFORTUNATELY MEANS WE HAVE TO FINISH AT ONE A.M. INSTEAD OF TWO A.M. SO WE WILL BE RUNNING 8pm-1am £5 ON THE DOOR. I'M STILL HOPING PEOPLE WILL BE WILLING TO TRAVEL, BUT I WILL BE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER VENUE THAT CAN STAY OPEN LATER. IT REALLY IS A SHAME THOUGH BECAUSE THE VENUE IS SUPERB. DJs ON THE NIGHT WILL BE :- JEFF BUCKLY, FRED KROL, PHIL KOWALSKI and CLIFF CAMFIELD. OUR VERY SPECIAL GUEST WILL BE MICK H. IF YOU CAN FIND ANOTHER VENUE WITH BETTER MUSIC PLEASE LET ME KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I'VE STARTED THIS NIGHT. I'M TIRED OF TRAILING ROUND THE COUNTRY HOPING TO HEAR SOMETHING NEW AND QUALITY. BUT AM MAINLY VERY DISAPOINTED AND SKINT. DIRECTIONS. FROM M65, EXIT AT JUNCTION 13. AT ROUNABOUT TAKE THE A6068 FENCE ROAD AFTER 200YDS. ROUNDABOUT. TAKE THE 1st LEFT NELSON GO DOWN HILL - WATCH OUT FOR SPEED CAMERA - CONTINUE UNDER MOTORWAY, TAKE THIRD TURING ON LEFT - NORFOLK STREET CAR PARK BEYOND CLUB, OR IF FULL [i wish] CONTINUE TO END OF STREET, TURN RIGHT, AND PARK IN MORRISONS. HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE FOR , FANTASTIC MUSIC, CHEAP BOOZE, TOP TUNES FOR SALE AND A VERY WARM WELCOME. FOR MORE INFO TEL. PHIL 01282 814058 or 07967 651255 mobile. Just aswell you have a good dance floor Phil, FUNKINSOUL'S mental when he gets going, sounds a real good nite mate, looking forward to it...Harry, Piercebridge Link to comment
Guest Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Just aswell you have a good dance floor Phil, FUNKINSOUL'S mental when he gets going, sounds a real good nite mate, looking forward to it...Harry, Piercebridge Is that Harry with the wandering hands?!! Link to comment
Guest Neil Taylor Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Is that Harry with the wandering hands?!! yeah it is,he thinks he`s an helicopter when he dance`s and sometimes he crash `es.ha,ha,ha,ha.....we know each other dont we ?...... Link to comment
Little-stevie Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 yeah it is,he thinks he`s an helicopter when he dance`s and sometimes he crash `es.ha,ha,ha,ha.....we know each other dont we ?...... Just got to read this thread...Yes a pity about the clash but lets hope you all have a good one...A lot of the smaller clubs are looking at dates and trying not to clash with events just down the road..We will all try and sort it out but there are only so many Saturdays in the month..I will get along to your night Phil and find something to moan about,car park,toilets,lighting etc .Lets hope we don,t have any strange folk in tonight.. Link to comment
Guest dundeedavie Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 i think you take it all too seriously ..... as you'll find when i dj tonight at S.O.N ...now where did i put that banana splits album ( and those who think i'm kidding don't know me lol) Davie Link to comment
Dave Moore Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Here we go ..... Some of what was played at the first Soulvation, Nelson. Celebrities - I Choose you - Boss Willie Tee - i'm having so much fun - Gatur King Curtis - Got to keep ya baby - Smoke Vivien Carol - Oh yeah yeah yeah - Merben Cody Black - Its our time - Gig Professionals - That's why i love you - Groove City Masqueraders - Same thing - Soul town Fortson & Scott - Sweet lover - Pzazz Montclairs - Hey you - Arch Al Williams - I am nothing - La Beat Appointments - I saw you there - Delite Deltours - Sweet and lovely - Starville Lovers - Without a doubt - Frantic Andy Fisher - Hearts beating stronger - Fat Fish Jimmy James - Tell you all about my girl - Circle M Herman Lewis - Who's kissing you tonight - Mercury/Stone Blue ( not sure) Robert Tanner - Sweet memories - Megatone Honey Bees - Get back together - Garrison Little Stanley - Out a site lovin - Vance Johhny Rogers - Make a change - Amon Jackie Day - Naughty boy - Phelectron Mr Lucky - Born to love you - Stardom Clara Hardy - I dream of you - Tuna Damon Fox - Packin up - Fairmount Mr Soul - What happened to yesterday - Genuine JJ Jackso c/u - Too much love Groovettes - Think it over baby - Rennes Mar Js - Got to find a way out - Magic touch Soul Inc - My Proposal - Coconut Groove Joe Jamma - My Life - Optimum John & Wierdest - Get over these memories - Tie Obviously not everything that was played .... but enough to give you an idea. You gotta admit .... a bit good!! I'm totally confused now by this post. This playlist is an oldies list surely? Great records but not a "progressive up front" playlist surely? Not knocking the playlist at all, some fantastic records there and lots of 'em. But not what was described imo. Phil, I'm from Burnley originally and have helped promote many a club there. Have we met. Did you ever get down to The Sparrow Hawk Hotel a few years ago? Hope it all goes well this weekend for you and the place is a success. Say Hello to Geoff Buckley et al for me wil you? Regards, Dave www.hitsvillesoulclub.com Link to comment
Quinvy Posted October 8, 2005 Author Share Posted October 8, 2005 I'm totally confused now by this post. This playlist is an oldies list surely? Great records but not a "progressive up front" playlist surely? Not knocking the playlist at all, some fantastic records there and lots of 'em. But not what was described imo. Phil, I'm from Burnley originally and have helped promote many a club there. Have we met. Did you ever get down to The Sparrow Hawk Hotel a few years ago? Hope it all goes well this weekend for you and the place is a success. Say Hello to Geoff Buckley et al for me wil you? Regards, Dave www.hitsvillesoulclub.com Hi Dave, Suppose your right really, don't think there are many records left that have not been played by somebody, at one time, in some place or other. What I was calling oldies, were the old standards that get played week in week out. Plus don't forget, I was off the scene for 20 years. That's a lot of catching up to do, musically, for me. I have heard your name many times, think we may have met briefly at Rolls Royce club a couple of years ago. I will give Jeff your regards tonight. Best Regards, Phil. Link to comment
Mark B Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 well how did it go did you get many in and playlists please. mark Link to comment
Jumpinjoan Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Apologies to Phil and gang for our early exit ..... would've loved to have stayed till the end. Some fantastic stuff played while we were there though ..... Young Brothers, Four Voices, Appointments, Voices ...... to a good crowd too. Would've loved to have heard more of Mick H's spot ..... no doubt played a blinder as usual! Will definitely be at the next one ...... no clashes please Philip Link to comment
Tony Jackson Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Apologies to Phil and gang for our early exit ..... would've loved to have stayed till the end. Some fantastic stuff played while we were there though ..... Young Brothers, Four Voices, Appointments, Voices ...... to a good crowd too. Would've loved to have heard more of Mick H's spot ..... no doubt played a blinder as usual! Will definitely be at the next one ...... no clashes please Philip Glad things went well Phil, must make it over sometime, whens the next one??....Tony Link to comment
Quinvy Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 -->QUOTE(mark.b @ Oct 9 2005, 11:10 PM) link well how did it go did you get many in and playlists please. mark Hi Mark, The night went well, I was obviously disappointed in the numbers that came. But what it lacked in quantity, it made up for in quality. Met some fantastic people, and got some good feedback. I hope you had a good one at s.o.n. Will try and avoid any more dates clashing, I'm sure Steve and I can sort something out. I would guess 60 punters in, and will try and get playlists if you want, but personally I think they are nagative rather than positive. But I'll see what I can do. Best Regards, Phil. Link to comment
Quinvy Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Apologies to Phil and gang for our early exit ..... would've loved to have stayed till the end. Some fantastic stuff played while we were there though ..... Young Brothers, Four Voices, Appointments, Voices ...... to a good crowd too. Would've loved to have heard more of Mick H's spot ..... no doubt played a blinder as usual! Will definitely be at the next one ...... no clashes please Philip Hi Joan, Thank you for taking the time to call in on Saturday night. It's always a pleasure to see you and Tony. Wish we could clone you, just imagine 200 Joanes, what a fantastic scene it would be. Wish we had more like you Joan, love your enthusiasm. You liven up a night no end. Love, Phil.xx Link to comment
Quinvy Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Glad things went well Phil, must make it over sometime, whens the next one??....Tony Hi Tony, Thank you , hope you had a good one too. Next dates are, nov.19th, with Andy Dyson. then dec,17th with I think, the return of Dickie Watts. Everyones still talking about his last appearance, not confirmed yet though. Best Regards, Phil. Link to comment
Bearsoul Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Hi Tony, Thank you , hope you had a good one too. Next dates are, nov.19th, with Andy Dyson. then dec,17th with I think, the return of Dickie Watts. Everyones still talking about his last appearance, not confirmed yet though. Best Regards, Phil. Enjoyed the first one, pity it clashed with S.O.N this time , hope to make the next one ! CHRIS M Link to comment
Tony Jackson Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Hi Tony, Thank you , hope you had a good one too. Next dates are, nov.19th, with Andy Dyson. then dec,17th with I think, the return of Dickie Watts. Everyones still talking about his last appearance, not confirmed yet though. Best Regards, Phil. Shame that Phil, Next two Greatstone dates, you guessed it.....19th Nov, 17th Dec....Tony Link to comment
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