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What Record Would You Use To Explain Or Exemplify Northern Soul

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Back in the day of tape-swapping I found myself making a compilation aimed at friends and people at work who wanted to know what Northern Soul was; we all know the thing - "So who's your favourite group?" "What tunes would I know?" and of course "Yeah but that was all over in the 70's wasn't it?"

So I tried to pick ones I felt epitomised the variety and continuation of the music. I put things into 'boxes' to give it a bit of logic, even though as we see in the ever-evolving scene this doesn't really make sense.

At the time I had a few in each of these categories:

60's stompers

70's and modern

Motown

Known artists

Oddities

I guess an updated tape these days would have to expand that quite a lot, stuff like Jazzy, Latin, R&B, Funk, Crossover, Shufflers, House and a whole lot more. To be honest it just means that you get closer and closer to just saying each sound is unique and unless you're into it there's no verbal description that fully captures what makes one record work and others get ignored.

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Ok if your gonna get serious ....M.V.P'S TURNING MY HEARTBEAT UP

VEL-VETS - I'VE GOTTA FIND ME SOMEBODY

Two that epitomise Northern soul imho :thumbsup:

Yep, I still get goosebumps when I hear those :)

I used to take a tape recorder into the casino, plug it in (on the balconies) & dangle the mike over the rail - still got the tapes today!!!

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eddie and ernie - indication

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Be surprised how many people ask what sort of music is that then (NS) and give

Millie Jacksons - My man is a sweet man as an example.....and they remember the track 'cause it made the charts.

The same goes for Nothing but a house party - The Showstoppers.

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Hi All it would have to be this rare UK Nugget in it;s most rarest form a PAMA PRE on SHOCKING PINK PLASTIC, I did not realize this existed as a single, but for the astute ones it does not, this is a rare non PAMA EP FEATURING 2 TRAX BY THE VOLUMES AND 2 BY HOAGY & LIZ "i WAS HERE 1st - HOAGY LANDS "THE NEXT IN LINE" i CANT DO A SOUND CLIP AS THE RECORD IS TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE?? BUT IT JUST SHOWS YOU WHATS STILL OUT THERE, LAST WEEK IT WAS A RARE BUNKY AND THIS WEEK I HAD A RARE BUNK UP, VALUE PLEASE? ph34r.gifMr KILWORTH

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:hatsoff2: Hi All .....That reminds me there was a BOOTLEG of the WINGATE Love-in STRINGS - LOVE IN inst / JJ Barnes _ Sweet Sherry, early 73, that BOOTLEG was probably my favorite Northern SOUL record at the time, I always thought it was a shame that it was a boot instead of an Oriana issue, still my fav boot of al time ph34r.gif DAVE

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My vote would be Yvonne Baker You did,nt say a word. Was loaned an issue from a guy from Leigh back in the day with 3 cracks in it. View to buying it. Took it home and played the life out of it. My sister still groans today when it gets mentioned.

BUT bloody hell it is some tune even today.

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for the last 34 years my favourite record was Bernie Williams, "EVER AGAIN" that l bought back in 1977 on a "BELL RECORDS" issue for £40

but l'm getting a bit fed up with it now so, . . l've decided that the record that describes northern soul is. . "LET NOBODY LOVE YOU"

by Virginia Blakley. what an absolutely penetrating tune, during the terror of "hurricane katrina" a few years ago, a friend of mine told me

that a dealer he knows, had a couple of boxes (25 copies per box) water damaged by the hurricane consequently washing off the labels,

completely, so if anybody has a copy in this condition and the vinyl is okay, if they're willing to give it away for free & gratis!! I'M YOUR MAN.

Tony Warot.

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The Silhouettes lead singer is a guy called EARL BEAL jnr, and yes, what a great voice he has, he's singing as thought his life

quite literally hangs in the balance.

Tony Warot.

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My vote would be Yvonne Baker You did,nt say a word. Was loaned an issue from a guy from Leigh back in the day with 3 cracks in it. View to buying it. Took it home and played the life out of it. My sister still groans today when it gets mentioned.

BUT bloody hell it is some tune even today.

What a brilliant track and yes it has all the ingredients to sum up N/S .....

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Brice Coefield "Aint That Right...."........still does it from Top Rank Hanley days........

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As we always got the 10.10pm train from Derby to Stoke and got in the Torch around 11.45, the sounds that hit you as you opened the door where always either Belles - Don't Pretend; Cooperettes -Shing a Ling or Soul Twins - Quick Change Artist, that was every week from early 72 onwards, whether it was the same dj or what I don't know, but it was almost the same time every week and it took coming up in to being smashed.

Shelly

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The Silhouettes lead singer is a guy called EARL BEAL jnr, and yes, what a great voice he has, he's singing as thought his life

quite literally hangs in the balance.

Tony Warot.

Cheers for the heads up.

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for the last 34 years my favourite record was Bernie Williams, "EVER AGAIN" that l bought back in 1977 on a "BELL RECORDS" issue for £40

but l'm getting a bit fed up with it now so, . . l've decided that the record that describes northern soul is. . "LET NOBODY LOVE YOU"

by Virginia Blakley. what an absolutely penetrating tune, during the terror of "hurricane katrina" a few years ago, a friend of mine told me

that a dealer he knows, had a couple of boxes (25 copies per box) water damaged by the hurricane consequently washing off the labels,

completely, so if anybody has a copy in this condition and the vinyl is okay, if they're willing to give it away for free & gratis!! I'M YOUR MAN.

Tony Warot.

agre with you mate ever again is my fav and is everything a northern record should be .......great record tamangoes a close second

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Archie Bell Here I go again

First record Iheard at Wigan at 13 years old and still sends a shivver down mi spine Great!! or has someone left a door open.?

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Alexander Patten - A Lil Lovin Sometimes -- hope joepublic could relate to that :wink:

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:hatsoff2: HI ALL NOT CHEAP, BUT ALEXANDER PATTEN IS ONE OF THE TRUE DOUBLE SIDED NORTHER SOUL CLASSICS, GREAT CHOICE :boxing: DAVE

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Edwin Starr "I Have Faith In You". A new convert can still go out and buy an original copy of this brilliant record for the price of a couple of pints.

Too true and I recently bought a copy from a member on here for less than the price of a pint.

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Thought long and hard about this one....6X6 Earl Van Dyke and then sit down for an hour or two and explain my reasons...

Think you can hear most stuff we listen to in there somewhere without complicating it with a vocal......

Or the Twans :D

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First record Iheard at Wigan at 13 years old and still sends a shivver down mi spine Great!! or has someone left a door open.?

Reminds me of the Torch

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Falcons - good good feeling.

It's got it all.

what a brilliant tune although cant remember hearing in the early days,

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for me i would have to play 3 tracks to show the extremes of the music,a slow ballad-1can you love a poor boy-gill bernal.2 uptempo 100mph. lay this burden down-mary love.3 modern 70s.brainstorm-loving is really my game

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Difficult isn't it. In a sense, I'm even doing to myself because it does in a sense reveal what we think of our music. So how do you explain yourself to someone. I noticed I kept refering to Ric-Tic cos that's what started me. However I have quoted others it's not yer favourite record it's how do you present yourself to other people.

*Anecdote alert* Somebody's mother, a bloke I grew up with and was active on the scene, well she used to love Tobi Legend. I mean really love it and she'd have been not that much younger than us older ones now and she absolutly loved in then and after all if the corrupt media had of counted the record sales properly it would have hit the charts. Because they considered such a concentration of sales in the North amounted to payola they refused those sales figures in their 'chart' calculations. Which was almost penalising the records twice because bigotry or exclusion kept many, not all, of them out of the American charts of the day

So the point of that is we don't consider what would feel fresh and alive to them. You would seem to have forgot.

There's records I play still (personal disclosure! Oldies Freak!), and I can feel the floor remember the lighting remember how I felt.

If we look at the public as pop based from my own personal memory hearing Sweet Darling by Jimmy Soul Clark could maybe do something for the poor lost souls, I feel I can present it to them because it would appeal to a pop sensibility, after all commercial success is what they sought as well, whilst being that tad stronger. Drenched in emotion and vunerable but strong. Brilliant back beat etc etc.

Listening to it now :thumbup:

Many tunes we listen to seem to be able to just stop before they drop into the dread canyon of over sentimentality. Suppose that's the emotional rollercoaster this stuff we listen to takes us on. Dancing along that edge. True love sugar free. Sure that's in a song :hatsoff2:

So don't forget how my mate's mum loved Tobi Legend. Just to be kind you may start the test again. :P:thumbup:

David's had a drink :thumbsup:

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Patti & the Emblems - I'm gonna love you a long, long time and The Apollas Mr. Creator are good examples I think...

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What about Doris Troy 'Anything He Want's Me To Do'.......chugga chugga, sax break as well. Bet you can't listen to it now without thinking chugga chugga. What a tune still love it. Reckon you could present that to people!

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Its got to be - Out On The floor - Dobie Grey - The Northern Anthem

- Gonna make you Love Me - Sandy Sheldon

- Time Will Pass You By - Tobi Legend

I know these wont apeal to the conniosseur - but they hold great memories and great times for me .

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In Orbit - Joy Lovejoy

QoFx

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I vote for these two (and must admit I am a bit amazed that nobody has mentioned tehm so far)

Salvadors Stick By Me Baby Wise World

Rose Batiste I MIss My Baby Revilot (sounds even more NS on a WD)

Marc

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Parisians - Twinkle Little Star

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Lots of good ones here.

The Spellbinders 'Help me get myself back together again.'

Not a particular favourite of mine, but ticks many NS boxes and still gives me the 'NS shivers' whenever I hear it.

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To my ears, the archetypal Northern tune these days, is something like Melvin Davis I'm the one who loves you but my tastes are ever changing.

But I wouldn't quote this to somebody new to Northern, I"d quote something probably some like Ann Sexton' You've been gone to long or maybe Patti Austin 'I've given all my love' or anything Lorraine Chandler or Eddie Parker, as these were the song's that made me love it originally & I'm sure I'd 'spread the love' with those.

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Salvadors if that dont work stuff em the,re never gonna get it :wink:

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TRAVIS WAMACK SCRATCHY ARA..........

:lol: :lol: :lol: , :g: dont forget johnny jones & the king casuals purple haze :D

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I think Kev H. got it right!!! Epitome of Sound - "You Don't Love Me" says it all!! imho and if they turn it over they get a cracking Flip as well!! :yes::thumbsup:

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Wierd ain't it?

A lot of records on that "I dont like" ding/type thread are the great records you all put on here. Is that other thread a piss take? cos I think it is (not everyone obviously) or am I too naive to grasp it?

I have a poker playing mate who's about 28-29 and sent him part of my book (nearly finished) and and he asked why I thought NEXT IN LINE was the business. I sent him the sound and he adored it. I sent him lots of other you-tube nighter clips, BUT NEXT IN LINE was the one for him.

Just shows we werent wrong then.

This with with apologies to all you contributors but I have not read all this thread yet as I only just found it.

I shall read it all in a while

Thank you

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Subjective is the word your looking for Swish :) .

The other thread is as much about the scene as this one is. The fact that someone can adore one tune, and another equally discerning soul fan dismiss it out of hand makes perfect sense to me.

A lot of the tunes above ( in fact 99% were or are the mainstays of the scene and by their very nature have become hackneyed, played out or just awful from the get go, yet to explain it to a newcomer you have to go right back to the roots warts and all.

There are many tunes still around today that I heard 40 years ago for the first time, and they still send the old shivers up me spine but there are others that did it for me then, that I wouldn't care less if I never heard again.

Next in line is good example of a tune I never tire of :thumbsup: but things like Interplay( which I ran to the dance floor for c 77) now make me squirm with embarrassment :facepalm: .

One mans meat ect ect. As I have aged so have my dietary needs :lol: So as regards a tune that explains the scene ...

There aint one :rofl: Just loads of good, bad and indifferent ones that mean something or nothing to the individual....

Today LaReine Lamar is a top tune and sums up my scene..... but 35 years ago I probably wouldn't have given it a second thought..........

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Judy street - what

utterly sublime stomper

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Seven Souls I Still Love You Northern

Willie Mitchell 20/75 Club

Jr Walker Daddy Deacon Motown

humble opinion of course

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The Silhouettes lead singer is a guy called EARL BEAL jnr, and yes, what a great voice he has, he's singing as thought his life

quite literally hangs in the balance.

Tony Warot.

Aha Mr Warot, how are you doing fella, agree here on the guys voice, absolutely magic.

Ever again Tony, it is a wonder there is still any sound left in the groove of your copy :lol:

Couple that do it for me are Seven Souls,,,,,, I still love you and the first record I heard when I walked through the doors of Wigan,,,,,,,,,,, Four Perfections,,,,, Not strong enough.

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The Silhouettes lead singer is a guy called EARL BEAL jnr, and yes, what a great voice he has, he's singing as thought his life

quite literally hangs in the balance.

Tony Warot.

Aha Mr Warot, how are you doing fella, agree here on the guys voice, absolutely magic.

Ever again Tony, it is a wonder there is still any sound left in the groove of your copy :lol:

Couple that do it for me are Seven Souls,,,,,, I still love you and the first record I heard when I walked through the doors of Wigan,,,,,,,,,,, Four Perfections,,,,, Not strong enough.

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I think Kev H. got it right!!! Epitome of Sound - "You Don't Love Me" says it all!! imho and if they turn it over they get a cracking Flip as well!! :yes::thumbsup:

Nick

I think Kev H. got it right!!! Epitome of Sound - "You Don't Love Me" says it all!! imho and if they turn it over they get a cracking Flip as well!! :yes::thumbsup:

Yep agree with you on the flip, I prefer it to the A side, in fact going to start another thread on B sides ! :thumbup:

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As we always got the 10.10pm train from Derby to Stoke and got in the Torch around 11.45, the sounds that hit you as you opened the door where always either Belles - Don't Pretend; Cooperettes -Shing a Ling or Soul Twins - Quick Change Artist, that was every week from early 72 onwards, whether it was the same dj or what I don't know, but it was almost the same time every week and it took coming up in to being smashed.

Shelly

Belles - one of the best 25 second intro's to any NS track.

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The Jades- Im where its at

Unless Ive missed it on the other 140+ posts this one has been missed

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The Silhouettes lead singer is a guy called EARL BEAL jnr, and yes, what a great voice he has, he's singing as thought his life

quite literally hangs in the balance.

Tony Warot.

Thought Bill Horton was the lead ?

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As we ourselves from the scene can´t after so many years define it ,how can anyone expect to pick one tune to describe it?

A cd could be filled with one sound from every year of the scene,every style,type,group/male/female/instrumental and there would still be other directions left open

Me i still think after all this time (got into the music `71) it´s just got something(personal) you get it or you don´t.

Steve

Ok .............Next in line...Only cause its my favourite.

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I agree NEXT IN LINE is awesome as is DARKEST DAYS. I can't really choose any sound because as I wrote elsewhere it has a lot to do with place, gear, company and circumstance.

However, I worship those two records. They express unbelievable brilliance in words and music that surpass many other records.

In my humble opinion they make sounds like I AM NOTHING by AL WILLIAMS , well , sound like nothing.

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well said my mate hope to hear from you soon, sammy

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tHE SPINNERS -ILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU is supreme Northern as is Darrell Banks SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE NEEDS YOU and everything he sang , perhaps. Trouble is every one of us could write down another 1000 records apiece maybe.

But for tonight I would like to go with these.

These records would bring you back up (from any come down)

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well said my mate hope to hear from you soon, sammy

Cant wait to meet you again, Sammy as well

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Cant wait to meet you again, Sammy as well

Seems like yesterday!

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SAM WILLIAMS...If you are a man who has ever lost a woman that you loved and that record does not rip your balls off, you are never going to 'get' Northern Soul.....'Ugggghhhhhhhh! I'm gonna find me someone...............!

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