Dave Thorley Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) Here's a few Johnny Johnson & The Bandwagon - Un-released Jimmy Soul Clark - I blew a good thing Charles Drain - Is this really love Edited July 20, 2011 by Dave Thorley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Here's a couple for the collection 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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Manfromsoul45s Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 One more - Jean Wells for Chalky.. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Interesting that the Oscar Wright studio disc features the same date 5/12/66 as the Mira Sound acetate for Little Tommy's "Baby Can't You See", credited to The Upsetters. The Upsetters' leader and sax player was Grady Gaines, writer of "Fell In Love". I wonder if the date means both tracks were recorded on the same day? The two studios are only a few streets apart. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 One more - Jean Wells for Chalky.. The George Smith with spoken intro was same label as this only a multi coloured design of the tower and bigger. Empire state building not Blackpool tower like yours 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
eddiep Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Here's a favourite of mine. The Exceptions - Baby (A.K.A. Baby, You Know I Need You) b/w The Look In Their Eyes Up-tempo version of their Groovey Grooves release. Much better IMO. Here's a you tube link to hear the unreleased version if anyone is interested. This was also pressed up on an "Impact" acetate of which there is a few knocking about i believe. Cheers, Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 The George Smith with spoken intro was same label as this only a multi coloured design of the tower and bigger. Empire state building not Blackpool tower like yours You must be so proud... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 The George Smith with spoken intro was same label as this only a multi coloured design of the tower and bigger. Empire state building not Blackpool tower like yours Eiffel Tower isn't it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 You must be so proud... Yeh why not, stupid for selling it though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Here's a couple for the collection Brilliant It's lucky Randy didn't know about this, he'd be on the train to Nottingham! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Any bats up them towers ken !?! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Interesting that the Oscar Wright studio disc features the same date 5/12/66 as the Mira Sound acetate for Little Tommy's "Baby Can't You See", credited to The Upsetters. The Upsetters' leader and sax player was Grady Gaines, writer of "Fell In Love". I wonder if the date means both tracks were recorded on the same day? The two studios are only a few streets apart. Hi Gareth, Yes that could be the case i suppose..Clearly that's a case of multi tasking Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 One more - Jean Wells for Chalky.. As they say in Little Britain...."I want that one" Very nice pal, one of my all time favourite records. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Brilliant It's lucky Randy didn't know about this, he'd be on the train to Nottingham! Nice isn't it. Also got Mel Wynn "Don't wanna lose you" on same with inst on the other side.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Arthur Fenn Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Hi Alan, funny i got the same Maxine off ebay last yr, looks great on the wall , Arthur. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) Here is another Little Tommy as far as I can see this is un-released & and one for the Smith Connection, also un-released Edited July 21, 2011 by Dave Thorley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 One more, Carol Anderson Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Backing track to Marva Lee - If You Can't be True Fantastic version of Major Lance sung by van McCoy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Hi Alan, funny i got the same Maxine off ebay last yr, looks great on the wall , Arthur. Hi Arthur, Due to a piece of the vinyl missing this is my one for the wall... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Interesting that the Oscar Wright studio disc features the same date 5/12/66 as the Mira Sound acetate for Little Tommy's "Baby Can't You See", credited to The Upsetters. The Upsetters' leader and sax player was Grady Gaines, writer of "Fell In Love". I wonder if the date means both tracks were recorded on the same day? The two studios are only a few streets apart. Hi Gareth, This has no date on it but gotm it from the same guy as the Oscar Wright from memory... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Some great contributions here. Really like the unreleased Little Tommy of Dave's. Notice it's for sale at topdogrecords.co.uk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Backing track to Marva Lee - If You Can't be True Fantastic version of Major Lance sung by van McCoy Do you know who is singing "Never Ever Leave Me" for Mickay's Records? I don't know of any Mickay's release with that title. Does it sound like J.J. Barnes, Orthea Barnes, Mel Anton, or The Legends? What does it sound like? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Do you know who is singing "Never Ever Leave Me" for Mickay's Records? I don't know of any Mickay's release with that title. Does it sound like J.J. Barnes, Orthea Barnes, Mel Anton, or The Legends? What does it sound like? It is Orthea Barnes, it is available on the new Dave Hamilton CD on Kent 356 (Dave Hamilton's Detroit Soul) and it is a corker! By the way the Shelton pic is a vinyl test press, there are a couple knocking about, I have it on an International acetate, different version the CD one. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 It is Orthea Barnes, it is available on the new Dave Hamilton CD on Kent 356 (Dave Hamilton's Detroit Soul) and it is a corker! By the way the Shelton pic is a vinyl test press, there are a couple knocking about, I have it on an International acetate, different version the CD one. Tony, that was an acetate not a vinyl copy. It was Mick Smith's, I sold it for him (and those other two). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hi Gareth, This has no date on it but gotm it from the same guy as the Oscar Wright from memory... The Little Tommy with the Upsetters acetate is a much better sound recording than the actual issued 45 - is that the same for this one too? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 "Also got Mel Wynn "Don't wanna lose you" on same with inst on the other side.. " Would love to hear this!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 The Little Tommy with the Upsetters acetate is a much better sound recording than the actual issued 45 - is that the same for this one too? Sorry Joel. No idea as I don't own the record. It's a scan I kept from an old ebay listing. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
spinneaussplit Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Does anybody know or own an acetate fo the BARRINO BROTHERS - BAD THINGS YOU SAID TO ME? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Does anybody know or own an acetate fo the BARRINO BROTHERS - BAD THINGS YOU SAID TO ME? I had it from master tape, I've never seen an acetate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike B Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Johnny Caswell.... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike B Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Motown rundown acetate with two takes of lonely lover on which was never issued as a single and featuring a dyslexic typist on the Jr. Walker track Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 It is Orthea Barnes, it is available on the new Dave Hamilton CD on Kent 356 (Dave Hamilton's Detroit Soul) and it is a corker! By the way the Shelton pic is a vinyl test press, there are a couple knocking about, I have it on an International acetate, different version the CD one. That's surprising to me that Dave Hamilton was involved in a Mickay's production. I never saw his name on any of those records (Mickay's or Orthea (Ortheia) on Coral. I assume that he must then have been the arranger. The listed arrangers on Mickay's were Joe Hunter, Fred Brown, Mike Hanks, Phil Wright (Chicago) and McKinley Jackson. Do you know what Dave Hamilton had to do with that Orthea Barnes Mickay's production? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Tony, that was an acetate not a vinyl copy. It was Mick Smith's, I sold it for him (and those other two). Okay Pete, then it was a different copy to the one I saw/held back in 1990 after I'd thought I got a nice unknown, only to be shown a vinyl copy (along with the Softiques also on Sheldon). I didn't know Mick had it and Mick didn't know I had it, until one night in Valencia I played it at that point the only know copies...... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I used to have Richard Popcorn Wylie Rosemary On an Atlantic Acetate. Said to be for possible release on Atlantic after Karen. Probably not - Karen records were distributed by Atco for a period - more likely it was just a reference disc for the Karen issue. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 This is the coolest acetate I have -- Channel 3 doing a version of "The Lively Ones" (which was released by Brooks O'Dell). Flip is a nice ballad called "Look into my eyes". Both sides are definitely demos with just like a guitar and drums. I have an even rawer Channel 3 demo but can't find it right now. The best acetates I have have no markings at all and are mystery artists. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 That's surprising to me that Dave Hamilton was involved in a Mickay's production. I never saw his name on any of those records (Mickay's or Orthea (Ortheia) on Coral. I assume that he must then have been the arranger. The listed arrangers on Mickay's were Joe Hunter, Fred Brown, Mike Hanks, Phil Wright (Chicago) and McKinley Jackson. Do you know what Dave Hamilton had to do with that Orthea Barnes Mickay's production? He wrote the song with Joe Hunter and arranged/produced it with Joe. He worked at all sorts of early Detroit labels like MAHS, KeKe, Velvet Sound etc I had two copies of the acetates (I wouldn't be surprised if Mick's came from me too) and all were acetate not vinyl. There is a totally different mix which is harsher but with an accentuated beat, so better for dancers, which we will put out on a Kent 45 soonish. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Probably not - Karen records were distributed by Atco for a period - more likely it was just a reference disc for the Karen issue. correct joe, theres a couple of atlantic acetates of rosemary knocking around, ive got one which is a different take to the 45, with type written credits and " take # 3 " hand written on, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I bought the Orthia Barnes of Pete, Manship sold another about a year later for £1500 mines for sale at the moment Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Lee Garrett - Issued take? Lee Garrett - definately not the issued take. Al Gardner - I'm Movin On - not the issued take? sounds rawer. Baby Jewel - Storming uptempo Northern / R&B - Unissued David Will - a~side David Will - b~side. Note it's a pairing of the a-sides of his two 45s on Soul Craft - not sure if they are the issued versions though. Mary Wells - reference disc for her Jubilee 45 (?) Another Mary Wells that came in a batch of Motown related disc along with the acetate above. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Detroit history currently living on my shelves...ding-dong! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I had two copies of the acetates (I wouldn't be surprised if Mick's came from me too) and all were acetate not vinyl. There is a totally different mix which is harsher but with an accentuated beat, so better for dancers, which we will put out on a Kent 45 soonish. I recall you having that Sheldon label acetate one evening at a Capitol Soul Club doo...when I initially saw it i thought it may have been vinyl, as there are also Sheldon vinyl test presses using the same label (Condors and Softiques spring to mind). I believe Tony and I had the other acetates from you of the Orthea Barnes...both featuring the 'smoother' mix rather than the added percussion version on the Sheldon label (currently with Ted).. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Pountain Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 possibly the original cut of Crazy Baby. Note the title! I think an unreleased track by The Platters And this one! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) Thelma Houston - uncredited Warner Bros 45 demo acetate for unreleased, LP only track (??) Edited July 25, 2011 by Russell Gilbert Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I recall you having that Sheldon label acetate one evening at a Capitol Soul Club doo...when I initially saw it i thought it may have been vinyl, as there are also Sheldon vinyl test presses using the same label (Condors and Softiques spring to mind). I believe Tony and I had the other acetates from you of the Orthea Barnes...both featuring the 'smoother' mix rather than the added percussion version on the Sheldon label (currently with Ted).. Flynny (or anyone else here)....Did Don Davis ever answer the question as to why he leased the master of "Lucky To Be Loved By You" to Jesse Herring's tiny Wild Deuce Records instead of releasing it on Thelma? Was the leasing after Thelma 113, and the writing was on the wall that the company would close shop? I think it was Lasky's best, and might have been a hit if released on a major (that would PUSH it). Did he try to get a major to lease it? From it's sound, I'd guess it was recorded rather earlier than 108-so not really near their end of the line. Actually, it's my favourite Thelma cut. I would have been happier to see it come out on the unused Thelma 103. But, I know that that had been originally scheduled for a female solo artist (forget name). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I recall you having that Sheldon label acetate one evening at a Capitol Soul Club doo...when I initially saw it i thought it may have been vinyl, as there are also Sheldon vinyl test presses using the same label (Condors and Softiques spring to mind). I believe Tony and I had the other acetates from you of the Orthea Barnes...both featuring the 'smoother' mix rather than the added percussion version on the Sheldon label (currently with Ted).. Yeah, defo acetate though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 possibly the original cut of Crazy Baby. Note the title! I think an unreleased track by The Platters And this one! Hi Ady, The Platters was a Musicor LP track and the Jeffrey Bowen a Mercury 45 as you probably know. Is the Crazy Baby an alternate recording? Ady Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Pountain Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hi Ady, knew about Jefferey Bowen, but I think the Baby Baby and the flip version of Doesn't It Ring A Bell are alternate takes to the LP versions,and the Ace version of Ring A Bell. The backing on Jimmy Sherman is the same as The Coasters but with a different vocal, Cheers, Ady Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) Here's some that I have, Blue rock Acetates from Dee Dee Warwick, and Renaldo Domino, Craig Moerer said the Domino Acetate came from a Chicago DJ's collection and he thought it was a single one done by his Manager. The Sound Lab one is a reference for the Jimmy delphs released 45 on Dssi, its deffo not him, I have no idea who's singing..plus the sleeve with lots of info, was told Ron Murphy was dead, I suppose he would of known Finally, a publishers acetate from that lot Jimmy Radcliffe's son was selling some years back, black Patch productions or something...unreleased track by Barbara English.. Mal Edited July 25, 2011 by Mal.C. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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