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Hi

Probably should know this but......

How rare is the original (charger?) issue of "out on the floor"

and price?

Cheers

ATB

Steve

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Hi

Probably should know this but......

How rare is the original (charger?) issue of "out on the floor"

and price?

Cheers

ATB

Steve

orig is on thunderbird,local first label

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orig is on thunderbird,local first label

Is it?...was that not a few years later?

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Not rare,Original with CR2049 stamped matrix in deadwax fetches about £20

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Thanks SS

How rare is it?

Either label

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Thanks all

I'm sure i haven't seen one for sale in the last year? Anywhere.

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Not rare on Charger.....I think Thunderbird release has a different flip side....

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my baby is the thunderbird flip and worth a spin or two

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Is it?...was that not a few years later?

HI yep you are right it's a 69 release, maybe 1970,

And I always thought it was a response from the copyright owners to try and US to all 4 BOOTLEGS that turned up over the end period of the WHEEL. to try and get at least something back, they failed unlike SELECTA DISC who made money on all the bootlegs, and then make another tidy amount, from the new copyright owners issuing it on Black Magic making the Demo copy along with Jimmy soul Clarke, worth picking up to-day, the Strange World of NORTHERN SOUL?

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Thunderbird is actually from the mid 70's I think, when Black Magic almost charted with it.

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Thunderbird - is a 1973 press - Fairlawn, new jersey.

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Was it a different version on Thunderbird - I'm thinking it was the "Out Of Sight" soundtrack version. Might be wrong on that though.

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Thunderbird is actually from the mid 70's I think, when Black Magic almost charted with it.

Thought it actually was a UK Top 40 hit in September 1975, Pete?

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Thought it actually was a UK Top 40 hit in September 1975, Pete?

Dunno mate, not got my nerd spectacles on

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Thunderbird - is a 1973 press - Fairlawn, new jersey.

This makes sense as it would have been released to cash in on the success of Drift Away

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Was it a different version on Thunderbird - I'm thinking it was the "Out Of Sight" soundtrack version. Might be wrong on that though.

Got the LP Out Of Sight on Decca if I remember right, has a slighlty different ending - probably about 2-3 secs longer than the Charger version. Was a tough LP to get at one time

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Dunno mate, not got my nerd spectacles on

Just found out it was a Top 50 hit here in Sep '75, reaching No. 42 (second record on the label to make the UK singles charts - "Papa Ooh Mow Mow" by The Sharonettes reached No. 26 in May that year).

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I've seen other things on Thunderbird...seems to be a budget reissue label of sorts?

Still, quite rare and the only way to get the tune on a US WD...looks cool!

:hatsoff2:

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The Charger original copies with "Out On The Floor" title in small print, are much rarer than the normal copies.

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Also quite rare on Canadian Reo.

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So.........., the original is on charger right?, and all of the ones i see for sale are repos? As per JM's website.

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Also booted on Charger, but without the matrix number under the logo on the label. I think that's got to be quite rare in itself, having only seen one in 30 years.

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15 Charger Dobie gray Out on the floor M £20

Shifty has one on his current list......I'm sure he'll be pleased to guarantee it is a first issue.... :yes:

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HI yep you are right it's a 69 release, maybe 1970,

And I always thought it was a response from the copyright owners to try and US to all 4 BOOTLEGS that turned up over the end period of the WHEEL. to try and get at least something back, they failed unlike SELECTA DISC who made money on all the bootlegs, and then make another tidy amount, from the new copyright owners issuing it on Black Magic making the Demo copy along with Jimmy soul Clarke, worth picking up to-day, the Strange World of NORTHERN SOUL?

DAVE K

The issue had a female version by Paula Roussell on the B side as I recall

TOTP

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The issue had a female version by Paula Roussell on the B side as I recall

TOTP

Apologies, thinking of Bob Relf, what a **** (note the username)

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my baby is the thunderbird flip and worth a spin or two

My Baby came out on charger as well

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First one is the boot and the other is the large print original, have a small print somewhere to scan.

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:hatsoff2: HI ALL..Is it just me? I have always loved "Out ob the floor" However, it's Northern Soul credentials, are so ingrained in our Psyche, over the years we have in the main overlooked the 2 classics that he made, which at one time were a youth cult statement, in a similar way that the WHO's "my Generation!" & Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Whels "Breakout", the funder mental difference was, back in 1968/7 the other records had UK releases, In todays market the original issues of all the above, which include "the-In Crowd" LONDON, & "See you at the GO-GO" PYE INT, Especially if you have the DEMO's of them,

The B side of "Se you at the GO-GO" "Walk With LOVE" is a great tune in it's own right it's a jem, don't get me wrong, "out on the floor" is a true classic, but has lost it's rare soul tag in 2011 "See you at the GO-GO" i BELIEVE STILL HAS THE GREAT, TWISTED WHEEL SOUND TO IT!

:thumbup: DAVE

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And here's my old copy of the rarer, small-print label, which I sold for £20 last year (I've taken this long in posting it up because I forgot I had saved the scan!).

One thing I've only just noticed is that it has a "CH" serial number, as opposed to the conventional "CRG" number.

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Very interesting, so not a valuable item. Has anyone ever seen a first issue Charger Demo?

 

KIR

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Nope, for some reasons (why is that I still don't know for facts) some major companies and less major ones, didn't issue promos for some of their releases. As to Dobie Gray on Charger I know only of the 'in crowd', 'in Hollywood' & 'my babe' as promos but not of 'out on the floor'. Maybe doesn't exist.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04jyj60

brain matthew played it yesterday on his morning show.

8-10am, 

 

ricky.

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orig is on thunderbird,local first label

 

Thunderbird is a re-issue Charger is the original.

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Hi Probably should know this but...... How rare is the original (charger?) issue of "out on the floor" and price? Cheers ATB

Steve

 

Steve , it's harder than most people think, the majority floating about are boots. As for price one went tonight on Ebay at £36.00.

This is an original :

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How might one tell original from boot? 

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OK so is this an original?

 

 

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Appears to be the rarer, small print label.

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Appears to be the rarer, small print label.

 

Cheers, $12 on Ebay

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So does the boot still have the matrix stamp ? Thanks .

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So does the boot still have the matrix stamp ? Thanks .

Original has matrix stamped CR 2049. Reissue has a scratched matrix.

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Original has matrix stamped CR 2049. Reissue has a scratched matrix.

 Brilliant thank you :hatsoff2: had my copy since the seventies was never sure ( its a real one ) :)

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Hi Millo, I understand what a matrix is but how do you tell the difference between a scorched and a stamped one?
 
i bought a copy for my Dad's 60th but think I'm being conned with a bootleg.

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Original has matrix stamped CR 2049. Reissue has a scratched matrix.

 

 

Thanks Millo please see above post.

 

 

Original has matrix stamped CR 2049. Reissue has a scratched matrix.

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orig is on thunderbird,local first label

 

Sorry, Thunderbird is a re-issue. To answer the original question, find an ORIGINAL is quite tough almost all floating around the UK are boots. Best find one in the US expect to pay £15 - 20.00 for a decent copy. Good luck.

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Hi Millo, I understand what a matrix is but how do you tell the difference between a scorched and a stamped one?

 

i bought a copy for my Dad's 60th but think I'm being conned with a bootleg.

Scratched matrix numbers  look like they have been hand written. Stamped look like they have been machine stamped i.e.all the same height.

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Scratched matrix numbers  look like they have been hand written. Stamped look like they have been machine stamped i.e.all the same height.

Oh dear. I think mines a boot then. The numbers don't look like they align quite right. But they are all the same size.

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Oh dear. I think mines a boot then. The numbers don't look like they align quite right. But they are all the same size.

That's an original

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Oh dear. I think mines a boot then. The numbers don't look like they align quite right. But they are all the same size.

That is a stamped matrix number and Dave is right.

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Oh great stuff thanks guys.

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Got the LP Out Of Sight on Decca if I remember right, has a slighlty different ending - probably about 2-3 secs longer than the Charger version. Was a tough LP to get at one time

 

I have the video of the film :ohmy:

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