boba Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I just got this 45. It's so good! IMO it's easily the best version of "why weren't you there" and the flip is nice too. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 agree bob, any two can play top tunage Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Very nice version. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think "Any Two Can Play It" is, by far, the better. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 I just compared all 3 versions. The worst is the Thelma Lindsey -- while still good, her voice is sort of "blah" and she sort of sounds thrown over a backing track. Cynthia has a really nice voice but it's in Barbara's voice works better with the track. On the Cynthia and Thelma versions, the backing voices are mixed higher but on the Barbara version there is more actual harmony. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think "Any Two Can Play It" is, by far, the better. both sides are great Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) Brilliant record - and elements of the song echoed in Bonnie Brisker on Magic City The Blue Rock version of 'WWYT' is by far the rarest though Cheers Richard Edited December 17, 2011 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 The Blue Rock version of 'WWYT' is by far the rarest though I agree, still need one if someone has one to sell Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 ive had this record twice one of the copies had why wernt you there label on both sides. also when i bought my last copy the guy it came from said he`d just got one with a nashville matrix stamp on it. neither of mine were stamped anybody else had this imo barbara jean is best version dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tiggerwoods Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Both sides are fantastic but unfortunately rarely played by dj's .....why not ???? If I dj'd I'd definately play either side.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I agree, still need one if someone has one to sell Not for sale I'm afraid Bob but here's a scan of mine for the details etc. (without checking I think the writing credits are different) Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Not for sale I'm afraid Bob but here's a scan of mine for the details etc. (without checking I think the writing credits are different) Cheers Richard Indeed they are different. Ernest Burt and Timmy Shaw are listed on the Big Hit. But Timmy Shaw's real name is John Hammonds (which appears on the Blue Rock version (that clears up one difference)). But P. Williams is added to the Blue Rock version. Anyone know who P. Williams is? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 Indeed they are different. Ernest Burt and Timmy Shaw are listed on the Big Hit. But Timmy Shaw's real name is John Hammonds (which appears on the Blue Rock version (that clears up one difference)). But P. Williams is added to the Blue Rock version. Anyone know who P. Williams is? Phyllis M Williams don't ask me who she is though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) Indeed they are different. Ernest Burt and Timmy Shaw are listed on the Big Hit. But Timmy Shaw's real name is John Hammonds (which appears on the Blue Rock version (that clears up one difference)). But P. Williams is added to the Blue Rock version. Anyone know who P. Williams is? Well spotted that man RobbK Cheers Richard Edited December 18, 2011 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) I had forgotten to look on the Magic City version. It has Williams as well. I wonder why her name is off the Big Hit? I think that's the latter release of the three. Might she have sold off her rights by then, for a cash sum? Edited December 18, 2011 by RobbK Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Nick Harrison Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) Very intresting reading. One of those records you whip out at home, when one is having a period of northern soul regression. As discussed a cracking double sider which many will "keep safe" in the collection. Some years ago JM auctioned a copy for £350 ....... One often wonders if Barbara Jean ever recorded, or did Barbara perform under any other titled name or group. Her sound voice sounds familiar on these earlier Big Hit recorded sounds and the Odex release. Barbara and Brenda maybe? Just out of interest the Big Hit 107 was released twice, with the same two songs of which both songs shared reverse top side and flip sides. Not seen one with Why Weren't You There recorded on both sides on the same record as post 9 by Dave or is it as described, do you mean as the below paragraph Dave ? Barbara Jean and the Lyrics................as below Any Two Can Play It / Why Weren't you There (Big Hit 107) £400.00 Why Weren't You There / Any Two Can Play It (Big Hit 107) £350.00 Why ? One would guess the first one on the above list at £400 is the first release or harder to acquire. Does that one also have a red label and the same design or text copy, or is it spray tan orange as the u tube clip in post 3..........................umm . Thanks. Nick . Edited December 18, 2011 by Nick Harrison Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Very intresting reading. One of those records you whip out at home, when one is having a period of northern soul regression. As discussed a cracking double sider which many will "keep safe" in the collection. Some years ago JM auctioned a copy for £350 ....... One often wonders if Barbara Jean ever recorded, or did Barbara perform under any other titled name or group. Her sound voice sounds familiar on these earlier Big Hit recorded sounds and the Odex release. Barbara and Brenda maybe? Just out of interest the Big Hit 107 was released twice, with the same two songs of which both songs shared reverse top side and flip sides. Not seen one with Why Weren't You There recorded on both sides on the same record as post 9 by Dave or is it as described, do you mean as the below paragraph Dave ? Barbara Jean and the Lyrics................as below Any Two Can Play It / Why Weren't you There (Big Hit 107) £400.00 Why Weren't You There / Any Two Can Play It (Big Hit 107) £350.00 Why ? One would guess the first one on the above list at £400 is the first release or harder to acquire. Does that one also have a red label and the same design or text copy, or is it spray tan orange as the u tube clip in post 3..........................umm . Thanks. Nick . never thought about it like that nick. my second copy came from neil rushton. i got it from him a the ritz in manchester some years ago. he said he`d just got one that was stamped..i knew it hadnt been booted at all. it may well have come out twice with both being the `A` side at some point and repromotion copies could be stamped. can neil or anyone confirm this...my first copy was just a misspress with why wernt labels on both sides......sadly i dont have it at all now Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Nick Harrison Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 never thought about it like that nick. my second copy came from neil rushton. i got it from him a the ritz in manchester some years ago. he said he`d just got one that was stamped..i knew it hadnt been booted at all. it may well have come out twice with both being the `A` side at some point and repromotion copies could be stamped. can neil or anyone confirm this...my first copy was just a misspress with why wernt labels on both sides......sadly i dont have it at all now Interesting as it has never been booted, we can safely confirm that. So making the stamped copy authenticating and now good for hunting. When you say stamped Dave is that matrix stamped or "promo only" label stamped..................thanks. Cheers. Nick . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 nashville matrix machine stamp ....was a few years ago mind and i`d had some beer..was sober enuff to buy this tho. but daft enought to leave the jades lucky fella at £150 quid dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Nick Harrison Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 but daft enought to leave the jades lucky fella at £150 quid dave No surely not, if it's any comfort Dave .................. then you purchased the better record of the two in Barbara Jean . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Not for sale I'm afraid Bob but here's a scan of mine for the details etc. (without checking I think the writing credits are different) Cheers Richard You can take a dislike to some people on here. .You are just minding it for me aren't you? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Awake 502 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Very intresting reading. One of those records you whip out at home, when one is having a period of northern soul regression. As discussed a cracking double sider which many will "keep safe" in the collection. Some years ago JM auctioned a copy for £350 ....... Thanks. Nick . That was probably my copy, it had WWYT labels on both sides Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 you must have sold it 20 year ago darren unless it was a different copy with WWYT label on both sides.. surely there would have been a batch of these Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 mine was in a soul bowl pack approx 79 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul McKay Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Fantastic double sider - always in my play box. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 you must have sold it 20 year ago darren unless it was a different copy with WWYT label on both sides.. surely there would have been a batch of these i'm pretty sure you got the one with wwyt labels on both sides off me, think it was part of the sunday afternoon signal box deal 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 i'm pretty sure you got the one with wwyt labels on both sides off me, think it was part of the sunday afternoon signal box deal it certainly was trev dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 it certainly was trev dave along with the willie tee, that you refuse to sell back to me, still kicking myself over that one Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 along with the willie tee, that you refuse to sell back to me, still kicking myself over that one and ree flores... and i sold that a few years ago and wish i hadent Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 yes i wish you hadn't too dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Awake 502 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 you must have sold it 20 year ago darren unless it was a different copy with WWYT label on both sides.. surely there would have been a batch of these It was definitely 2-3 years ago, sold Epsilons on Hem at the same time... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 It was definitely 2-3 years ago, sold Epsilons on Hem at the same time... i had a copy of WWYT label both sides from 1996 when i bought it from trev thomas and i sold it martin `rocky` hardcastle in about 1999 when i bought a `proper copy from neil rushton at the ritz. did you buy yours from rocky when he sold up? dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Awake 502 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) i had a copy of WWYT label both sides from 1996 when i bought it from trev thomas and i sold it martin `rocky` hardcastle in about 1999 when i bought a `proper copy from neil rushton at the ritz. did you buy yours from rocky when he sold up? dave I'd had it many years, think I got it at a Notts Palais all dayer going way back.... Edited December 20, 2011 by Awake 502 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Awake 502 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Flip side... https://youtu.be/ihF13fVtHEE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 its a safe bet to say they are two diffent copies and that theres a small batch of these.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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