Guest HensTeeth Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Hi All, Anyone got a copy of Charles Diamond & The Inspirations - No One Can Take Your Place on pink Breakthrough label (the 1977 reissue, I believe) for sale? Cheers, John. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It's not a reissue, it's a complete re-recording of the track - and better IMO. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It's not a reissue, it's a complete re-recording of the track - and better IMO. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 So good he said it twice Not an easy one to acquire but a great feeling when it arrives Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 It's not a reissue, it's a complete re-recording of the track - and better IMO. Lol , you keep telling yourself that and you'll start to believe it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Lol , you keep telling yourself that and you'll start to believe it i don't need to tell myself anything - I've listened to the Vocals, and Charles Diamond is a far better singer... plus the Inspirations sounds like an unfinished demo. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 can you just line the audio up on a computer multitrack program like protools and compare? I've done that with stuff to determine exactly what's different. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 i don't need to tell myself anything - I've listened to the Vocals, and Charles Diamond is a far better singer... plus the Inspirations sounds like an unfinished demo. Ree Flores or little willie Faulk ? Johnnie Mae Matthews or Audrey ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Ree Flores or little willie Faulk ? Johnnie Mae Matthews or Audrey ? apples and oranges. Ree Flores but it's close. Johnnie Mae Matthews by a thousand miles. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Interestingly ...i prefer the opposite to you . And also interesting how all thre you prefer are the 2nd attempts ,which to me concludes you prefer a more polished production Always think it's easier to take someones record and iron out the flaws ,but i guess i prefer the more vulnerable and raw performance than the studio polished job As they say ...each to their own Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Interestingly ...i prefer the opposite to you . And also interesting how all thre you prefer are the 2nd attempts ,which to me concludes you prefer a more polished production Always think it's easier to take someones record and iron out the flaws ,but i guess i prefer the more vulnerable and raw performance than the studio polished job As they say ...each to their own Is Johnnie Mae the second? That suprises me. Strange that I love Raw R&B though eh? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Is Johnnie Mae the second? That suprises me. Strange that I love Raw R&B though eh? Belive its actually Sharon Mcmahon on vocals as a very young girl and not Audrey Matthews ....and Sharon wrote it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev Harker Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Johnnie Mae for me,even singing it in her kitchen gives me goosebumps No One Can Take Your Place,first one for me,though the pink one is still a great record. [thats the one I have] Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The Johnnie Mae version is untouchable to my ears. I like both of the Inspirations versions, it was years before I realised there were two as it didn't get played too often. Pink label one just edges it for me. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 You get the haunting instru on the flip of the Pink one as well.As Joe said,different version of the rarer Breakthrough.I'm sure there's a thread archived somewhere..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Whats the going rate for a pink copy anyone? Cheers Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve L Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Whats the going rate for a pink copy anyone? Cheers Mike £70ish I would say Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Thanks, will dig out my copy ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 £70ish I would say That's mind-boggling really, these were sold as reissues along with every other pressing, bootleg and whatever else, for £1 or £1.25, I must have had at least 20 over the last 15 years and I always sold them for £5, then £10, sold one for £20 about 3 years ago and then saw what was happening with them on Ebay and put them on there now. I have to say that anyone paying £70 for a reissue such as this needs their head testing. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 They peaked at around 100 quid a couple of years back.I'd say 40-60 should get you one.You're right tho Pete,they were looked upon as "pressings" etc BITD.What did we know back then? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve L Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 That's mind-boggling really, these were sold as reissues along with every other pressing, bootleg and whatever else, for £1 or £1.25, I must have had at least 20 over the last 15 years and I always sold them for £5, then £10, sold one for £20 about 3 years ago and then saw what was happening with them on Ebay and put them on there now. I have to say that anyone paying £70 for a reissue such as this needs their head testing. I agree Pete but like Kev says I've seen em go for a ton. Its a crazy game we play and really shouldnt be surprised at anything. Off topic I saw a Velours on one of those blue UK MGM issues go for £56 the other week Unfortunately I never get any of these daft prices when I sell on Ebay Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I agree Pete but like Kev says I've seen em go for a ton. Its a crazy game we play and really shouldnt be surprised at anything. Off topic I saw a Velours on one of those blue UK MGM issues go for £56 the other week Unfortunately I never get any of these daft prices when I sell on Ebay I got £32 for an Enchantments on Joker (albeit one with a US large centre) but all my pressings this week apart from that, and there have been 60 of them, went for the standard 5 to 10 quid. Good titles as well. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Neil Rushton Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 That's mind-boggling really, these were sold as reissues along with every other pressing, bootleg and whatever else, for £1 or £1.25, I must have had at least 20 over the last 15 years and I always sold them for £5, then £10, sold one for £20 about 3 years ago and then saw what was happening with them on Ebay and put them on there now. I have to say that anyone paying £70 for a reissue such as this needs their head testing. I had the whole 1,000 copies of the pink ones from Joey Jefferson via Bob Cattanneo. JJ was supposed to supply the same version as on Breakthrough but didn'. I had a lot of trouble selling them, was too classy for the time I suppose, and people wanted the version they knew... I also had the very first copy in the UK of the rarer Breakthrough copy , and was later offered a second one by Joey at his place in LA then he went all mental and I was glad to get out of there, even without the record which he had promised me, and which he showed me, but would not sell it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 That's great info because putting a definite figure of 1000 copies, now nobody can say oh well they only ever pressed 250... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) wernt there 1000 copies of frankie beverly on sassy..is that only worth 70 quid..incidentally i just sold the charles diamond for £75..the guys paying me for it tommorrow..won it on ebay for 99pence Edited January 14, 2012 by dave pinch 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul-slider Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Anyone got a scan of the first one? I believe the first take is on one of those 'The Northern Soul Story' L.P's....volume 3 I think. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The YouTube clip of the original version has a full scan showing the whole way through the song Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 wernt there 1000 copies of frankie beverly on sassy..is that only worth 70 quid.. In the real world, yes, although that was never advertised and sold as a reissue for £1.25 was it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 In the real world, yes, although that was never advertised and sold as a reissue for £1.25 was it? this is true pete but the inspirations pink is 35 years old now..the copy i just sold looks and plays just about mint........tryin to justify my £75 here dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 this is true pete but the inspirations pink is 35 years old now..the copy i just sold looks and plays just about mint........tryin to justify my £75 here dave When people have paid £100+ for an Eddie Parker pressing I don't think you need justify anything really Dave. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 some desperate people wi plenty of money trying to get records in their box asap Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Anyone got a scan of the first one? I believe the first take is on one of those 'The Northern Soul Story' L.P's....volume 3 I think. Here you go Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 In the real world, yes, although that was never advertised and sold as a reissue for £1.25 was it? The Sassy demo was on the wall in either Booths or Valances in Mansfield with a range of other boots for?? think it may have been £2 rather than £1.25 but am going back a while. Was under the impression for ages it was a boot simply based on that. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The Sassy demo was on the wall in either Booths or Valances in Mansfield with a range of other boots for?? think it may have been £2 rather than £1.25 but am going back a while. Was under the impression for ages it was a boot simply based on that. On the wall of HMV ? Or boxes at Vallances during the "Big Sale"? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest JIM BARRY Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Here you go is that dave taylors old copy ted? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 might be it has Ian Gillibrand in the run out, i bought it of Jim Wensiora in the 80's Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 wernt there 1000 copies of frankie beverly on sassy..is that only worth 70 quid..incidentally i just sold the charles diamond for £75..the guys paying me for it tommorrow..won it on ebay for 99pence Which Sassy copy, cos ain't there two different "B" sides, "love your pain goes deep" and "this is just the B side", each as both demo and issue. Regards Bob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Which Sassy copy, cos ain't there two different "B" sides, "love your pain goes deep" and "this is just the B side", each as both demo and issue. Regards Bob love your pain goes deep issue Edited January 15, 2012 by dave pinch Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 i don't need to tell myself anything - I've listened to the Vocals, and Charles Diamond is a far better singer... plus the Inspirations sounds like an unfinished demo. I always thought it was a one sided unfinished demo, hence its rarity (only ever seen Gillys copy) Regards Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest JIM BARRY Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 might be it has Ian Gillibrand in the run out, i bought it of Jim Wensiora in the 80's yes mate, he sold it to gilly, he also sold billy woods on sussex for a ton.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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