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I got a Jimmy Connor - Lets Get Married last year, fab track, but knocked out of the park for The reality of life, an all time favourite!! Makes the flip sound plaintive, and that SAX...!! :rofl:

both sides of this record are great, but aren't they both about the same tempo?

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Flip to Albert Jones monster "I do Love you" Andy

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OK, here is a sort of random list of stuff nobody mentioned yet of monster sweet soul sides on the a-side of not-as-good known northern sides. I left off ones where the northern side was as good as th

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Don't know if the Cheers "take me to paradise" qualifies as a Northern classic , but as it happens the plug side is this beauty:

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OK, here is a sort of random list of stuff nobody mentioned yet of monster sweet soul sides on the a-side of not-as-good known northern sides. I left off ones where the northern side was as good as the sweet side:

tony daniels - drip drop - beval (NO CONTEST on this one)

porgy + monarchs - if it's for real baby - musicor

mystiques - so glad to have you home again - twinight

perfections - baby don't you go - big b

Hollidays - Happy young man - Holliday

Cautions - Poor loser - Shrine

Moovers - Someone to fulfil my needs - Deep City

Soul Injection - Girl full of charm - Accent

Donald Jenkins and the Delighters - Adios - cortland

Condors - Meet me halfway - Sheldon

Rotations - If I could be like columbus - law-ton

Intrepids - it's just a picture - cotillion

Carpets - what can you do for me? - ViJ

Carol Woods and the Executives - Ooh baby - Perfecto 7

Precisions - Take a good look - Hen-mar

Sinceres - Don't waste my time - pzazz

o'jays - I'll be sweeter tomorrow - bell

black aces of soul - betrothal

Mystics - That's the kind of love - Teako

(can't believe anyone would even consider playing the flip)

candi-bars - you're the one - candi-stix

TNJs - She's not ready - newark

Pacesetters - what about me - minit

United Four - Go on - Harthon

United Four - Look at her now - Harthon

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dream team-im not satisfied/there he is-gregory

Yep good call. :hatsoff2: Got this for the hi-octane, fast stepper 'I'm Not Satisfied' :thumbsup: And regularly play the gorgeous ballad, gem of a flip 'There He Is' :thumbup: :thumbup:

Also the Deon Jackson ballad 'I Need A Love Like Yours' (flip of the faster 'I Can't Go On' (Carla) ).

(Recently danced to 'I Can't Go On' @Banbury last week. Well played that DJ, and the bod who requested it! )

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Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread, I love slow soul records and most of the ones mentioned are unknown to me. Will try to hear them. I think these type of tunes are ideal for the early part of an alldayer.

One I'd suggest for this thread is the flipside of the 7th Avenue Aviators' You Should O' Held On, Boy Next Door, absolutely beautiful record, heard it first at Brid weekender in 2010, now Mick H has been playing it for some time too.

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Here's a few that I like playing....(with their better known flips in brackets)

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Chuck Jackson - Look Over Your Shoulder (Hand It Over)

Na Allen - No Easy Way Down (Thanks For Nothing)

O'jays - Pretty Words (I'll Never Forget You)

Invitations I Didn't Know (Living Together Is Keeping Us Apart)

Philharmonics - Will You Marry Me Girl (I Need I Need Your Love)

Richard Temple - Could It Be (That Beatin' Rhythm)

Rick Thompson - We All Make Mistakes Sometimes (What Do I Have to Do)

Carl Hall - You Don't Know Nothing About Love (Mean It Baby)

Charles Brimmer - Mr Teardrops (The Feeling Is In My Heart)

Determinations - Girl Girl Girl (Bing Bong)

Marva Whitney - Your Love Was Good For Me (Saving My Love For My Baby)

Emory & Dynamics - A Love That's Real (Pretty Little School Girl)

Entertainers IV - My Garden Of Eden - (Just Ain't My Day)

Fascinations - I Can't Stay Away From You (I'm In Love)

Freddie Hughes - He's No Good (I Gotta Keep My Bluff In)

Ben & The Cheers - Never More (I'm Gonna Get Even With You)

Cheers - I'm Not Ready To Settle Down (Mighty Mighty Lover)

Ella Washington - The Grass Is Always Greener (Bye Bye Baby)

Jimmy Robins - I Made It Over (I can't Please You)

James & Bobby Purify - I Don't Want To have To Wait (Let Love Come Between Us)

Royal Esquires - Our Love Used To Be (Aint Gonna Run)

Jean Wells - I'm In Your Corner (I Feel Good)

Marie Knight - A Little Too Lonely (You Lie So Well)

Thrills - No One (What Can Go Wrong)

Troy Keyes - Im Crying Inside (Love Explosions)

Jerry Williams - Baby Tou're My Everything (Just What Do You Plan To Do About It)

Oscar Perry - Come On Home To me (I Got What You Need)

Magnificent Men - Peace Of Mind (All Your Lovin's Gone To My Head)

Roy Hamilton - There She Is (The Panic Is On)

Bobby Mandolph - Tell Me Tomorrow (Gotta Get You back)

Mighty Marvelows - In The Morning (Talkin' Bout Ya Baby)

Whispers - Seems Like I Gotta Do Wrong (Needle In A Haystack)

Olympics - Baby I'm Yours (No More Will I Cry)

True Tones - That's Love (He's Got The Nerve)

Specials - Fool For Your Love (Baby You need me)

Junior McCants - Help My Love (The Boy Needs A Girl)

Little Tommy - I'm Hurt (Lov'h)

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OK, here is a sort of random list of stuff nobody mentioned yet of monster sweet soul sides on the a-side of not-as-good known northern sides. I left off ones where the northern side was as good as the sweet side:

tony daniels - drip drop - beval (NO CONTEST on this one)

porgy + monarchs - if it's for real baby - musicor

mystiques - so glad to have you home again - twinight

perfections - baby don't you go - big b

Hollidays - Happy young man - Holliday

Cautions - Poor loser - Shrine

Moovers - Someone to fulfil my needs - Deep City

Soul Injection - Girl full of charm - Accent

Donald Jenkins and the Delighters - Adios - cortland

Condors - Meet me halfway - Sheldon

Rotations - If I could be like columbus - law-ton

Intrepids - it's just a picture - cotillion

Carpets - what can you do for me? - ViJ

Carol Woods and the Executives - Ooh baby - Perfecto 7

Precisions - Take a good look - Hen-mar

Sinceres - Don't waste my time - pzazz

o'jays - I'll be sweeter tomorrow - bell

black aces of soul - betrothal

Mystics - That's the kind of love - Teako

(can't believe anyone would even consider playing the flip)

candi-bars - you're the one - candi-stix

TNJs - She's not ready - newark

Pacesetters - what about me - minit

United Four - Go on - Harthon

United Four - Look at her now - Harthon

that carol woods is real nice..ive been working on a copy of that for days! i seen that hollidays for sale on here recently..nice group harmony

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few more ...

sonny parker

caressors who can it be rujac

clifford binns "take it from me" carrie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g45ZMAzj974

whisphers "you can't fight what's right" dore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz8ysIswriA

james latety "tears running and falling from my eyes" temple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XaEvzmUmxs

fourth session "she's gone" jayville....... although northern side "would you love me too"not too well known...i think???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4VNAg-2PGc&feature=related

primes "who do i turn to" lot a soul

other brothers "little girl" pet

flip of anthony and delsonics (emerge) i remember being good ..not sure if a ballad though!!!

the ramblings of a derby fan ...up the rams!!!!

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Dave the uptempo sides of minit and keyman are different songs with different titles not same song released twice.

Dylan, yes I know mate that's why I said "What Is This" (Keymen release not Minit). Perhaps should have made it clearer.

Both the Keymen and Minit are titled "What Is This" though.

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I'm not 100% on this i'd need to check but i'm sure they are different titles.

Well tye are in a way mate --- the Keymen has a ? at the end :lol:

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A few not mentioned yet I think (dancer/known side in brackets):

Josephine Taylor - Depend On Me (Smooth Groove)

(Right now this would get my vote for the greatest deep track ever and this was the A Side)

Alfreda Brockington - I'll Wait For You (Chained & Bound)

(just a shame this one fades a bit too quick, it's about 15 seconds longer on the reissue I think)

Tyrone Davis - A Woman Needs To Be Loved (Can I Change My Mind)

(was the A side when initially released - I have it on a solid black Dakar label - flipped after a few months)

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charles burns on gene

ernie wheelwright on gaye

a couple more with great deep soul flips that are popular northern items.

I came across both these as deep soul 45s then realised as I was chasing them that they were also wanted for the uptempo sides.

I kept getting outbid and never got either.

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Until the youtube era I'd never heard Ray Paige's "Don't Stop Now" on RCA, the other side of his version of Ain't No Soul. I'd never have thought of buying that, but the ballad side is immense.

He later re-cut it in a more latin style on Fania under his (presumably) real name, Rafi Pagan.

On a more recent in-demander I was very impressed by the ballad side of Double O's Demingoes "Color One Tear Black". I think the uptempo version of the same track wears pretty quickly but the slow version is a real mind-blower.

A couple more RCA's

Percy Wiggins The Work Of A Woman flip of It Didn't Take Much

Rose Valintine When The Heartaches End flip of I've Got To Know Right Now

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black velvet "is it me you really love" flip to funky "an earthquake coming" btr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FQDToaTMwg&feature=related

ok an excuse to look at another saucey pic but good record although flip not northern but who knows with funkier tunes being played nowadays........wonder on funk sites there's a similar topic....a sweet souler's paradise!!!???

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black velvet "is it me you really love" flip to funky "an earthquake coming" btr

ok an excuse to look at another saucey pic but good record although flip not northern but who knows with funkier tunes being played nowadays........wonder on funk sites there's a similar topic....a sweet souler's paradise!!!???

yeah, I never play any other side except "is it me you really love"

Some killer sweet records that "funky northern" people are picking up on now for the flips are Now on Now and the Creators on Brewtown

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Ultimations on Mar-V-Lus the better known side "Would I Do It Over" on the flip another superb offering "With Out You". Always wanted to know about this group? this is the only 45 I have by them? Did they record other records? were they recording under another name? .... and who was the writer of both sides, namely Po-Jo??(I've seen something like Po-Jo on other Chicago 45''s) Anyone know.... Bob?

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https://youtu.be/M7o470gfoJY

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Great thread but tricky because many of the ballads were the official A-sides anyway.

Here are some of my favourite ballads which were B sides (or which were mostly overshadowed in the UK by their uptempo sides)...

Jimmy Mack - Go On (Palmer)

The Ambers - Now I'm In Trouble (Verve)

Edwin Starr - Harlem (Ric-Tic)

The High Keys - Let's Take A Chance (Verve)

Jerry Williams - Yvonne (Calla)

Bobby Sheen - Sweet Sweet Love (Capitol)

Troy Keyes - I'm Crying (Inside) (ABC)

O'Jays - I'll Be Sweeter Tomorrow (Bell)

Freddie Hughes - He's No Good (Wand)

Bob Relf - Big Brother (Mirwood)

Prince Harold - Forget About Me (Mercury)

Billy Harner - Fool Me (Open)

Ted Ford - Please Give Me Another Chance (Sound Stage 7)

Johnny Moore - It's Just My May Of Loving You (Date)

Hoagy Lands - True Love At Last (UK American) [...and only issued in the UK]

Little Johnny Blair - Easier To Say Than Do (Silver Fox)

Donnie Elbert - That's If You Love Me (All Platinum)

The Young Hearts - Oo La We (Avco) [this was the B side of LJ Reynolds & The Chocolate Syrup when issued by Phonogram in the UK]

Four Wonders - Haven't We Been Good For Each Other (Solid Foundation)

Benny Johnson - Give It Up (Today)

Johnny Baker - Donnie O (Fog City)

Johnny Baker - Accept Me As I Am (Cisco)

Willie & Anthony - It's Never Too Late (Blue Candle)

Third Point - Poor Boy (Tide)

Norma Jenkins - Love Jones (Desert Moon)

Freddie Hughes - Sarah Mae (Greg-Uh-Rudy)

Jimmy Beaumont & The Skyliners - The Day The Clown Cried (Drive)

Oscar Perry - Come On Home To Me (Peri-Tone)

Barbara Hall - Drop My Heart Off At The Door (Innovation II) [this was the B side when issued by EMI in the UK]

Ray Godfrey - I'm The Other Half Of You (Event)

Carol Anderson - I'll Get Off At The Next Stop (Fee)

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Ultimations on Mar-V-Lus the better known side "Would I Do It Over" on the flip another superb offering "With Out You". Always wanted to know about this group? this is the only 45 I have by them? Did they record other records? were they recording under another name? .... and who was the writer of both sides, namely Po-Jo??(I've seen something like Po-Jo on other Chicago 45''s) Anyone know.... Bob?

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I know that the Ultimations actually are from Chicago (unlike every single act on the set of labels) as the Tra-Mor record owner told me he got into music by meeting one of them. The lineup is even known and in the first soul harmony singles book, not sure the source of the info, but I have never talked to anyone from the group.

I think the Jo in Po-Jo is Jimmy Jones. I'm too lazy right now to look up the actual writers but can if it's important. I think I've also seen Po-So, maybe on a Sheryl Swope 45?

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Gerri Hall, 'I Lost The Key'...one of my fave slowies EVER...found on the flip of her 'Who Can I Run To'.

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flynnstone, have you got a clip or website with it on????

another....calvin william "it won't matter at all"northern della

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I know that the Ultimations actually are from Chicago (unlike every single act on the set of labels) as the Tra-Mor record owner told me he got into music by meeting one of them. The lineup is even known and in the first soul harmony singles book, not sure the source of the info, but I have never talked to anyone from the group.

I think the Jo in Po-Jo is Jimmy Jones. I'm too lazy right now to look up the actual writers but can if it's important. I think I've also seen Po-So, maybe on a Sheryl Swope 45?

Cheers Bob, yeah Po-So! your right I remember now it's the credits on Sherl's Duo release "How You Feel" and "Let's get the Show on the Road", I have this but the her name is down as Sherl Swote on my issue. Sounds like I need to get a copy of that book!

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Go on, the flip of jimmy mac my world is on fire.

Yes - used this B side as an example on another site years ago - and the topic thread you may ask was that "love/hate" term "Crossover".

Thanks sheldonsoul :thumbsup: .

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I know that the Ultimations actually are from Chicago (unlike every single act on the set of labels) as the Tra-Mor record owner told me he got into music by meeting one of them. The lineup is even known and in the first soul harmony singles book, not sure the source of the info, but I have never talked to anyone from the group.

I think the Jo in Po-Jo is Jimmy Jones. I'm too lazy right now to look up the actual writers but can if it's important. I think I've also seen Po-So, maybe on a Sheryl Swope 45?

how is that new soul harmony singles book coming along?

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