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Is This Record Worth £1000, Go And Find It

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Mick Smith and Butch were I think the only people who had this record at one time - THE ONLY LOVE I EVER HAD - both had it covered up. First one went for 4 figures. When I found out what it was, I only told 3 people what it actually was in the hope that if they found one, they'd find more and let me have one. Well that hasn't happened and one of the people found copies and made a lot of money out of them so it's only fair I suppose that I tell everyone else what the record is, seeing as I don't give a toss anymore. Obviously more people know what it is now but back when only a couple of people knew*, that was the time to find it.

*including Dave Welding

Here you go - but it's credited to Yiddish Soul Brother Amnon.

CHESS 1990 - Ammon Feldman - Only Girl I Had / In New York City - 1967

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Add John Anderson to the list...and some European guys who can say "hello!" themselves if they wish to do so ;)

A small quantity was found some time ago.

I know.

John bought the first one off Butch / Mick.

The small quantity was found by someone I told about it.

John now has some or all of those copies, or has sold them.

Marc I can assure you. In the first instance, nobody knew what that record was.

Now I think it's time everyone knew.

Edited by Pete S

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when you type "Ammon Feldman" + "Only Girl I Had" into google and it brings up 4 results you know its going to be hard.

especially when this thread appears at number one.

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when you type "Ammon Feldman" + "Only Girl I Had" into google and it brings up 4 results you know its going to be hard.

especially when this thread appears at number one.

When I was at John's place last year I mentioned this to him and he'd never heard of, that's how far off the radar it was!

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I also have this. It's a vanity record, that clearly didn't sell or get distributed by Chess. For a long time it was the rarest of the 60s Chess soul 45s, which is why the discographies have the name wrong. Both sides are pretty cool I think. How many copies have turned up?

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I know.

John bought the first one off Butch / Mick.

The small quantity was found by someone I told about it.

John now has some or all of those copies, or has sold them.

Marc I can assure you. In the first instance, nobody knew what that record was.

Now I think it's time everyone knew.

Pete

Sorry mate but your talkin' out of your arse, this record has been known about for years.

John Anderson turned the first copy up in 1987, I was offered it for £200 at a record fair in Manchester, but didn't like and turned it down. I later mentioned it to Mick (Smith) who then bought it later the same day.

Dave Welding

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Pete

Sorry mate but your talkin' out of your arse, this record has been known about for years.

John Anderson turned the first copy up in 1987, I was offered it for £200 at a record fair in Manchester, but didn't like and turned it down. I later mentioned it to Mick (Smith) who then bought it later the same day.

Dave Welding

It might have been, but by how many people Dave?

Mick recorded it for me when he got it, it wasn't as early as 1987 though, it was the early 90's.

Where's all the copies that have turned up since then?

Where's all the people who knew it?

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Pete

Sorry mate but your talkin' out of your arse, this record has been known about for years.

John Anderson turned the first copy up in 1987, I was offered it for £200 at a record fair in Manchester, but didn't like and turned it down. I later mentioned it to Mick (Smith) who then bought it later the same day.

Dave Welding

Have amended my original post!

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yes, agree with Denbo and Tommaso. like better In New York City than The only girl i had, but i can see it having some "big room" appeal.

out of curiosity, if a copy for sale was well advertised (let's say on here or on some other forums/sites/ebay ) would it really fetch 1000£ these days?

Edited by soulfuljules

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It depends on who sees it , and who has the cash at the time ! someone paid $4000+ for an arthur griswold the other day so anything is possible , i suppose if you want something that badly you'd do anything to get it.

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out of curiosity, if a copy for sale was well advertised (let's say on here or on some other forums/sites/ebay ) would it really fetch 1000£ these days?

Probably to a serious Chess collector (if there is such a thing) who has a gaping hole in his collection.

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Probably to a serious Chess collector (if there is such a thing) who has a gaping hole in his collection.

well most people who collect Chicago or Chess will have that gap...if they would be prepared and willing to pay 1000 ukp is whole different question though.

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I also have this. It's a vanity record, that clearly didn't sell or get distributed by Chess. For a long time it was the rarest of the 60s Chess soul 45s, which is why the discographies have the name wrong. Both sides are pretty cool I think. How many copies have turned up?

Is it possible Chess would have withdrawn it from sale after deciding that the artist's name sounded a bit too Jewish, and that it wouldn't sell?

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Is it possible Chess would have withdrawn it from sale after deciding that the artist's name sounded a bit too Jewish, and that it wouldn't sell?

Why would they?

Besides, weren't the Chess brothers Jewish?

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Why would they?

Besides, weren't the Chess brothers Jewish?

Good point Denbo - though what I meant was from the point of view of selling, and the record buying public's perception. Then again, just a guess.

But thinking about it, Warner Bros and Rampart did reissue the Majestics "I Love Her So Much It Hurts Me" as David and Ruben, so maybe that throws that theory out of the window.

Edited by Gene-R

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ok, my question was more related to the rare soul scene. what i mean is would people in the soul scene pay that kind of money?

personally i think that In New York in the right hands could become one of the biggest r&b tunes of the last few years. it has all the ingredients.

but it is the other side which i think has had plays on the rare soul scene, hence me asking about the demand for it.

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ok, my question was more related to the rare soul scene. what i mean is would people in the soul scene pay that kind of money?

personally i think that In New York in the right hands could become one of the biggest r&b tunes of the last few years. it has all the ingredients.

but it is the other side which i think has had plays on the rare soul scene, hence me asking about the demand for it.

at a very not so wild guess most of the rare soul dj`s based in nyc have a copy now :wink:

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ha ha, that was funny marc :thumbsup:

however one of the copies now residing in europe came from one of the nyc djs. if the other 3 or 4 known copies are in the hands of uk djs/collectors, it doesn't leave many copies in nyc, right? :g:

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Is it possible Chess would have withdrawn it from sale after deciding that the artist's name sounded a bit too Jewish, and that it wouldn't sell?

No it was a vanity record. Plain and simple.

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A vanity record that was co-written by Willie Dixon. I think that makes it not quite a vanity record.

I think only one of the other NYC fellows besides me has one, and he didn't get it from me, as a few Europeans did.

Edited by weingarden

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Are there any sounds clips of this anywhere?

Tony, Good to see you and Jet again last night at Majestic Soul. :thumbsup:

I've got a sound file of the "In New York City" side I can email to you over the weekend.

Now where did I file it away??? :(:D:lol:

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I guess the problem with this 45 is that the two sides appeal to totally different crowds, so I can't really think of a dj playing both sides so to fully justify paying £1000.

Anyway, looking at R&B biggies prices nowadays, I reckon "In NYC" should be valued a lot higher than most of them, as it is far rarer and better (and it is a super collectable chess 45, too).

Problem is, it is still unknown to most R&B collectors / djs.

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spinned it both side this year in dresden (forget to do in berlin but probably marc knows the side played by butch)....and it have a great appeal to the dancefloor also for the regular people that are not able to listen soul or rnb

amazing 45 and very danceable on both of his side....

got one of the five of mr weingarden....:)

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