Guest Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) Hello All, I'm seeking information on two rare soul classics. I'd appreciate any info you might have on the songs or the artists, as all I have are some .wav files with no additional info. Specifically, I'd love to know the songwriters, the original label, publishing information, anything will help...The tunes are: Don't Turn Away - Willie McDougal I Got To Know - Cookie Jackson (I think this one might've been on Okeh originally) And I'd love to know who these artists were, these tracks show up in many folks' play lists but biographical information has proven difficult! Thanks so much. Jordan Valentine Edited January 25, 2006 by MizValentine Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Willie McDougal is on Kinard if my memory serves me correctly. Was played quite a lot ... a good few years back now mind ........ covered up at one time too .... Chalky's the master of all things soul .... i'm sure he'll be able to help Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Willie McDougal is on Kinard if my memory serves me correctly. Was played quite a lot ... a good few years back now mind ........ covered up at one time too .... Chalky's the master of all things soul .... i'm sure he'll be able to help Thank you very kindly! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Willie McDougal is on Kinard if my memory serves me correctly. Was played quite a lot ... a good few years back now mind ........ covered up at one time too .... Chalky's the master of all things soul .... i'm sure he'll be able to help Willie McDougal def. on Kinard - Pat Brady spun it at the Quenns hall, Bradford late 80's / early 90s covered up I think. Copies about £25 / £40??? ATB Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-R Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Willie McDougal def. on Kinard - Pat Brady spun it at the Quenns hall, Bradford late 80's / early 90s covered up I think. Copies about £25 / £40??? ATB Rich I think it's more like £75 - £100 these days. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Cookie Jackson "Do You Still Love Me" on Progress Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I think it's more like £75 - £100 these days. Blimey... keeping hold o mine then... Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Willie McDougal first covered up as Gene McDaniels. Played by Pat, Carl F and Nigel Parker Queens Hall and other venues at the time. At £25/£40 I'll have ten copies you'd be looking at least £150 IMO nowadays, wouldn't suirprise me if it went for more, on plenty of folks wants lists Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) Think it was Guy that found the quantity that turned up around '88/'89, not that thats much use now Edited January 25, 2006 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Think it was Guy that found the quantity that turned up around '88/'89, not that thats much use now See what i mean ....... the master!! We've probably been going to niters the same amount of years Chalky ..... WHY ISN'T YOUR BRAIN AS HAGGLED AS MINE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Headsy Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 wee willie...........I've been looking for a copy for ages and not a sniff !! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Excellent information all, thank you!! Anybody know who wrote either song? (I'd buy them and look at the label, but from what you say it doesn't sound like I'll be getting my hands on a copy of Don't Turn Away anytime soon....!) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 See what i mean ....... the master!! We've probably been going to niters the same amount of years Chalky ..... WHY ISN'T YOUR BRAIN AS HAGGLED AS MINE far from a master Joan if I get as good as my mate Andy then you can call me a master doubt it though as for my brain...it's getting there see you Saturday Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Did anyone else pick up a copy of Willy McDougal in '88 in a "Mutual Record Co. Baltimore" striped factory bag? My copy of Monroe Taylor from Soul Bowl years earlier also came in such a sleeve, but I've never seen any other records that did. Is it just a coincidence that both were presented in this way? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) Excellent information all, thank you!! Anybody know who wrote either song? (I'd buy them and look at the label, but from what you say it doesn't sound like I'll be getting my hands on a copy of Don't Turn Away anytime soon....!) Cliff Chambers wrote the Cookie Jackson. Blind Love is the flip. Cookie Jackson even more expensive than the Willie McDougal. Edited January 25, 2006 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Cliff Chambers wrote the Cookie Jackson. Blind Love is the flip. Cookie Jackson even more expensive than the Willie McDougal. Brilliant! Thank you.. you saved me a really ponderous request with the US Copyright Office. Are there any other Cookie Jackson tracks anyone could recommend? I think her voice is amazing... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Brilliant! Thank you.. you saved me a really ponderous request with the US Copyright Office. Are there any other Cookie Jackson tracks anyone could recommend? I think her voice is amazing... Try Love on Cyclone, one on Okeh title escapes me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Brilliant! Thank you.. you saved me a really ponderous request with the US Copyright Office. Are there any other Cookie Jackson tracks anyone could recommend? I think her voice is amazing... Cookie Jackson 'Try love' on both Cyclone and Progress is even better IMO Used to be around £400, but not sure if still the case. Try Love on Cyclone, one on Okeh title escapes me 'Good girl gone bad???' and 'Suffer?' ring a bell. Also one on Uptown but it's pants Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'll keep an eye out for those... I'm a bit short of £400 at the moment, but maybe they've been comped somewhere Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dennisoul Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 See what i mean ....... the master!! We've probably been going to niters the same amount of years Chalky ..... WHY ISN'T YOUR BRAIN AS HAGGLED AS MINE Sorry to go off thread but Joan what was that 70`s thing you played on Saturday night I think you said it was the Expulsions,could be wrong.Uptempo thing.Was great to see you again,you and Lenny were ace!!!!!! If it`s any help ma brains pretty scrambled too. best Andy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Cookie Jackson 'Try love' on both Cyclone and Progress is even better IMO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Cliff Chambers wrote the Cookie Jackson. Blind Love is the flip. Cookie Jackson even more expensive than the Willie McDougal. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Nearly forgot 'Didn't lose a doggone thing' on Press. Great R&B tune. Got another tune by an artist called Cookie Jackson on Reena but can't be same artist cus it's really bad Country and Western (so bad even I don't like it ) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Nearly forgot 'Didn't lose a doggone thing' on Press. Great R&B tune. Got another tune by an artist called Cookie Jackson on Reena but can't be same artist cus it's really bad Country and Western (so bad even I don't like it ) must be bad then sorry couldn't resist that one mate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) Cliff Chambers wrote the Cookie Jackson. Cliff Chambers was Cookie Scott's cousin. For those of you with an open mind towards soul music, check out Cliff's highly unorthodox but ever so lovely tune "Just For You" on Kent. Edited January 25, 2006 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 must be bad then sorry couldn't resist that one mate Fully expected it mate - nearly added 'No comments required from Chalky' but kinda knew you would anyway! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Sorry to go off thread but Joan what was that 70`s thing you played on Saturday night I think you said it was the Expulsions,could be wrong.Uptempo thing.Was great to see you again,you and Lenny were ace!!!!!! If it`s any help ma brains pretty scrambled too. best Andy. Hey fella ..... i think me and Lenny should have been the expulsions!! Was so top to see you on Saturday ..... it really was ... nearly forgot ..... the record .... it was the EXPORTATIONS - I WANT YOU - VIR RO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Fully expected it mate - nearly added 'No comments required from Chalky' but kinda knew you would anyway! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 also cookie jackson, on uptown records--" uptown jerk" b/w "(i'm gonna) go shout it on the mountain" (700) uptown's 1st. release and "find me a lover" b/w "love brings pain" (714) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
steve z Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Think it was Guy that found the quantity that turned up around '88/'89, not that thats much use now Tony Diamond-don't turn away-Blue Rock? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 'Try Love' is a great track!! I can hear even more of the fire in her voice than on I Got To Know. That clip may be the hilight of my afternoon here... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 also cookie jackson, on uptown records--" uptown jerk" b/w "(i'm gonna) go shout it on the mountain" (700) uptown's 1st. release and "find me a lover" b/w "love brings pain" (714) Is that you Mr Ferguson? Heard you were sniffing around on here 'Uptown jerk' is the crap one I seem to remember - is the other one on Uptown any good? Regards Mace. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 'Try Love' is a great track!! I can hear even more of the fire in her voice than on I Got To Know. That clip may be the hilight of my afternoon here... Some other great tunes in that style - Mabel King 'Go back home young fella' (Amy) Patience Valentine ' If you don't come' (Sar) Reatha Resse 'Only lies' (Dot) Mary Jonshon 'These tears' (Foxy or Queen) Top notch R&B - but Northern Soul to those that don't like R&B Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
steve z Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Some other great tunes in that style - Mabel King 'Go back home young fella' (Amy) Patience Valentine ' If you don't come' (Sar) Reatha Resse 'Only lies' (Dot) Mary Jonshon 'These tears' (Foxy or Queen) Top notch R&B - but Northern Soul to those that don't like R&B HI Mace only got two of those you list Sold the other two as oldies Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 HI Mace only got two of those you list Sold the other two as oldies Presumably Reatha and Patience were the ones you sold. Oldies R&B Have you heard another track by Mabel King on Amy - saw one the other day, but not sure what it's like? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Cookie Jackson - Need Of Love - Kris Not a bad little ditty.... in a Soulful R&B styleeee. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Some other great tunes in that style - Mabel King 'Go back home young fella' (Amy) Patience Valentine ' If you don't come' (Sar) Reatha Resse 'Only lies' (Dot) Mary Jonshon 'These tears' (Foxy or Queen) Top notch R&B - but Northern Soul to those that don't like R&B Very cool, I'll keep an eye out for those.. I love that style, whatever you call it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
steve z Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Presumably Reatha and Patience were the ones you sold. Oldies R&B Have you heard another track by Mabel King on Amy - saw one the other day, but not sure what it's like? Hi Mace ,will dig the tune out Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 'Uptown jerk' is the crap one I seem to remember - is the other one on Uptown any good? "Love Brings Pain" Her best IMO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 'Uptown jerk' is the crap one I seem to remember - is the other one on Uptown any good? "Love Brings Pain" Her best IMO Pretty cheap too!!,or it was ,dried up and i want one Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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