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[Rs] jerry williams - if you ask me (because i love you)

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Title: jerry williams - if you ask me (because i love you)
Artist: jerry williams
Track: if you ask me (because i love you)
Label: calla

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This is my copy on the left with Bell Sound stamped in the run out.

There are copies like mine on Popsike. There are also others copies with the label layout different.

From the info provided on popsike they both appear to be "originals". Are they?

Can anyone confirm which came first?

Thanks :thumbup:

Mick

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The copy with the 1973 date was released then - the other was a 1966 / 67 (ish) release.

It was re-pressed due to the allnighter demand at that time, also it's very slightly different in that it has a longer instrumental break about 2/3 of the way through the song.

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The first one in pic one is a 73' legal re-issue but it is different sounding and not half as good as the one pictured below which is THE original pressing from 68' i believe and far rarer and at least 3 times as costly.

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damn ! you beat me to it, if only i had not been watching football!!

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Thanks for the info. I guessed it wasn't a 73 first issue. I just didn't know when the original was out.

Cheers

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Original has Bell sound stamp and a large impressed star in the run outs

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Original has Bell sound stamp and a large impressed star in the run outs

Here's a Scan of that Deadwax Matrix.

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Notice the address is different too.

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boxing.gifHi All the out of the past Chriss Burtons ISC label has the Origanal Calla 66ish release so it is worth getting as all the fist sries od the OUT OF THE PAST LABELSph34r.gif DAVE KIL

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boxing.gifHi All the out of the past Chriss Burtons ISC label has the Origanal Calla 66ish release so it is worth getting as all the fist sries od the OUT OF THE PAST LABELSph34r.gif DAVE KIL

Yes Dave, most CD reissues use the slightly longer version as well - the first Casino CD used the original version which I assume was dubbed from 45.

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The copy with the 1973 date was released then - the other was a 1966 / 67 (ish) release.

It was re-pressed due to the allnighter demand at that time, also it's very slightly different in that it has a longer instrumental break about 2/3 of the way through the song.

The Original has a much better mix, thats the one that was massive!

The 1973 mix has been dumbed down!

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The extra in the song is at the start of the break sounds like a little more oboe.

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Odd then really, that even though they are slightly different mixes - they're both the SAME time!wink.gif

2:46

Mind you, I've never timed them both to see if they really are the sameno.gif

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The time on my demo copy is 2'53, played it against the refo short version and they played at the same time strangely and it ended sooner so the 2'46 must be from the original labeling.

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The extra in the song is at the start of the break sounds like a little more oboe.

Bell Stamp C-116A-1

Demo copy without Label name and address

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The 73 re-issue was slightly longer but other than that it sounds the same to me. Prefer the re-issue if only for the fact it's more seconds of a top tune.

Also the original issue was issued with 2 different addresses on it (both Broadway - 1650 and 1631). Any more?

The issue on Pye was a different mix with a 'synth' sounding break instead of strings. Crap.

Cheers

paul

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The issue on Pye was a different mix with a 'synth' sounding break instead of strings. Crap.

Cheers

paul

Was it? I always thought the Pye 45 was just the 73 Calla reissue???

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Just wanted to add that I have a 73' issue with Bell Sound stamped in the dead wax, with 1973 written in the centre of the label not at the bottom. Address is 17 West 60th Street, NYC

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The first one in pic one is a 73' legal re-issue but it is different sounding and not half as good as the one pictured below which is THE original pressing from 68' i believe and far rarer and at least 3 times as costly.

correct about the price' 68 original release far rarer .

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I wonder if the longer version is an album version as many are that are longer than the single releases?
 

Edited by Northern Soul UK

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Original or Repress?
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I know really :-) 73 repress. Is this the one with the different mix then?

Edited by Northern Soul UK

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The backing vocals on the Pye version always sounded different to me - not quite so "angelic".

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