Orotava Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Apologies for the numpty question - I still have L Plates!! Are there 2 issues on Mowest of Frankie Valli - The Night, and if so how do you tell the difference?? Thanks, Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mickjay33 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 FIRST ISSUE MOWEST 3002 2ND ISSUE 3024 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy Kempster Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 a bbc 6music favourite Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Orotava Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 FIRST ISSUE MOWEST 3002 2ND ISSUE 3024 Brilliant - thanks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Orotava Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Brilliant - thanks Hmmm Just checked description of ebay item and it says MW 3042. Is this a 3rd issue then?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mickjay33 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Hmmm Just checked description of ebay item and it says MW 3042. Is this a 3rd issue then?? NICE FIRST ISSUE HERE £20 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Frankie-Valli-The-Four-Seasons-The-Night-Mowest-MW-3002-NM-/140948031689?pt=UK_Records&hash=item20d12848c9 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Hmmm Just checked description of ebay item and it says MW 3042. Is this a 3rd issue then?? Misprint - they didn't go as far as that catalogue number. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Have a French issue ( I think, deffo not British or US ) that is slightly different. Was that a re-record pulled from an Album. Pete - over to you my friend !! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Have a French issue ( I think, deffo not British or US ) that is slightly different. Was that a re-record pulled from an Album. Pete - over to you my friend !! Someone was saying the other day they have a version where the vocals are different at the start, Australian version maybe? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Someone was saying the other day they have a version where the vocals are different at the start, Australian version maybe? I'll have to check when I get home tonight to check the Label. Not massively different but one of those where when you hear it it makes you double take, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Someone was saying the other day they have a version where the vocals are different at the start, Australian version maybe? I bought it from a French guy in France so stupidly I assumed it was French !! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mickjay33 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 got a nice carver version by marv johnson slighty faster than F V Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I bought it from a French guy in France so stupidly I assumed it was French !! No this might be another version, think he said Frankie Valli starts the song off where he doesn't on all other versions. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 got a nice carver version by marv johnson slighty faster than F V You sure they didn't fiddle about with the original? Marv Johnson must have been out of contract with Motown when that was recorded Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Was it releasesd as a Promo by Motown in US although not officially released. Was it firtly officially released in UK ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mickjay33 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 You sure they didn't fiddle about with the original? Marv Johnson must have been out of contract with Motown when that was recorded I THINK ITS ONE OF IAN LEVINE MIXS FROM A CD ON CEDAR (CALLED) MARV JOHNSON Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I THINK ITS ONE OF IAN LEVINE MIXS FROM A CD ON CEDAR (CALLED) MARV JOHNSON Oh right sorry, thought you meant using the backing track off Frankie Valli Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Was it releasesd as a Promo by Motown in US although not officially released. Was it firtly officially released in UK ? Must have been. October 1972 original issue date. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 big bit about this here Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Here is the alternate version, I have to say I have never heard this in my life and it's f*cking excellent Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Agentsmith Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Here is the alternate version, I have to say I have never heard this in my life and it's f*cking excellent correct pete, that is the alternate version, think its the australian one that you mentioned or, got mentioned here, the original version has him doing the intro in a deep, husky baritone where this is positively, almost falsetto, a bit like eddie holman before he goes up another octave!.....that, im afraid mate, is where we differ, i prefer the haunting original......nevertheless, still a great record and you can so easily cast your mind back and see the dancefloor at station road totally rammed to this. i remember having to loan a copy of this to someone at sammy's allnighter because nobody else had it and at the time it was THE tune. Edited May 3, 2013 by AGENTSMITH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 correct pete, that is the alternate version, think its the australian one that you mentioned or, got mentioned here, the original version has him doing the intro in a deep, husky baritone where this is positively, almost falsetto, a bit like eddie holman before he goes up another octave!.....that, im afraid mate, is where we differ, i prefer the haunting original......nevertheless, still a great record and you can so easily cast your mind back and see the dancefloor at station road totally rammed to this. i remember having to loan a copy of this to someone at sammy's allnighter because nobody else had it and at the time it was THE tune. I like both of 'em.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Northern Soul Uk Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I like the alternative version, and I like the original version, but which is best? There's only 1 way to find out, FIGHT!!!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mickjay33 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 marv johnson version Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ritchie Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) marv johnson version This sounds like a I.Levine tailor made? Edited May 3, 2013 by ritchie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mickjay33 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 This sounds like a I.Levine tailor made? spot on 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulhawk1960 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 The Franki Valli is a classic. One of my all time favourites. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kevinsoulman Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 he's 79 today still like to see em over here live , don't dislike the alternate take but the original still the d b to these ears kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 The 'Different Version' Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) The 'Different Version' You sure mate? That's just the Dutch issue that came in a pic sleeve isn't it? There's also German version on Tamla Motown that has the same pic sleeve but different coloured writing block across the top. I didn't think either of them were the alternate version. Edited May 3, 2013 by Godzilla Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) You sure mate? That's just the Dutch issue that came in a pic sleeve isn't it? There's also German version on Tamla Motown that has the same pic sleeve but different coloured writing block across the top. I didn't think either of them were the alternate version. Yes, it's slightly different on the intro. As I said not too out of the ball park, just a tad to make you think when it starts up. The intro is lighter vocally than the Mowest version. Perhaps it as Pete said earlier, the Australian Version with the different intro. Edited May 3, 2013 by Tezza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Yes, it's slightly different on the intro. As I said not too out of the ball park, just a tad to make you think when it starts up. The intro is lighter vocally than the Mowest version. Sorry - thought you meant it was the one in post 20 with the completely different intro Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 My god I'm getting really confused. I'll try and find a sound bite and post it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 My god I'm getting really confused. I'll try and find a sound bite and post it. No need for my benefit - just played mine and it has the whispered beginning just like the UK Mowest version. Honest! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 The Rate Earth with the lighter vocal intro Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Listen to the vocal on the clip on post 20 on here. But this time turn yer hearing aid up 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 No need for my benefit - just played mine and it has the whispered beginning just like the UK Mowest version. Honest! I need to get out more !!! The one I have always recalled had a much louder intro and I always assumed it was the Mowest version. Need to check my facts before I post on here Lol Cheers mate. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Graym Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I need to get out more !!! The one I have always recalled had a much louder intro and I always assumed it was the Mowest version. Need to check my facts before I post on here Lol Cheers mate. Anyone checked out the Chameleon LP version - can't find my copy at present - wonder if they used a different take - not played it in a long time but will dig deeper tomorrow am. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) that post 36 of fluffs you tube clip sounds very pitched up there is a uk tamla motown copy from 1979..i think it has the later mowest catalogue number tho (3024) Edited May 5, 2013 by dave pinch 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) Hi Energy Disco crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Y This sounds like a I.Levine tailor made? Marv Johnson version Edited May 5, 2013 by Kev John 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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