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Sherri Taylor, He's The One That Rings My Bell

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I know the Gloreco copies are the Detroit release of this, but whats the story on PG label copies on these the song is credited to Tony Clard, not Tony Clark, just a spelling mistake or are these bootlegs.

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A can of worms...at least it used to be whenever that question came up...  The PG definitely is a later press, most believe it is a bootleg. All owners of a PG press obviously think different ;)

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A can of worms...at least it used to be whenever that question came up...  The PG definitely is a later press, most believe it is a bootleg. All owners of a PG press obviously think different ;)

I must admit the PG one does look all wrong.

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wrong topic.

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Agree the PG copies look wrong - although I have only seen pics of that one, not had it in my hand.

 

I think Manship auctioned one as an original a few years ago didn't he?

 

PG copy has gone for almost USD $900 according to Popsike.

 

Cheers

 

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Agree the PG copies look wrong - although I have only seen pics of that one, not had it in my hand.

 

 

Neither had I but I agree with you. It's the font that doesn't look right, isn't it?

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Your right Benji, that type face on the PG looks like late 60's, early 70's. Just wrong for a record that came out in the early 60's. Plus so much of the info on it is wrong, looks like a rushed pressing.

 

 

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Could it have been done for he beach scene Dave, they have a tendency to change the name slightly and possibly details on the label.

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Your right Benji, that type face on the PG looks like late 60's, early 70's. Just wrong for a record that came out in the early 60's. Plus so much of the info on it is wrong, looks like a rushed pressing.

I concur.  The font definitely looks like a '70s font.  That font just didn't exist in Detroit pressing plants in the early 1960s.  My guess is that it's a '70s boot, or, possibly (but a lot less likely), a legitimate re-issue, with some participation by the original rights holder.

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Brad got a decent price for one a few months ago I recall - that's a PG copy not the Gloreco.

Current Manship's Guide has Gloreco at £400 and PG at £450!!

I wouldn't touch a PG copy - that's for sure.

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Richard

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I concur.  The font definitely looks like a '70s font.  That font just didn't exist in Detroit pressing plants in the early 1960s.  My guess is that it's a '70s boot, or, possibly (but a lot less likely), a legitimate re-issue, with some participation by the original rights holder.

 

 

Could it have been done for he beach scene Dave, they have a tendency to change the name slightly and possibly details on the label.

 

 

Hi Rob & Mark  could be that the producer did it as a re-issue, PG in the 70's hence the name being the same as his initials. But the the family in Detroit that owed Gloreco also owned the rights to it, so he must have done a deal with them or not and hoped they wouldn't find out. I'm also sure that someone in Detroit told me that the family weren't aware of the other release, so the plot thickens.

 

I'm sure I wouldn't pay much for a PG copy, all in all something ain't right there. As for Johns valuation, none of us know everything.

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Gloreco is the real deal. PG is a bad (expensive) joke i.e. bootleg.

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An old bootleg, loads of copies turning up ... just needs an 'outa sight' re-issue now to finally kill it off.

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An old bootleg, loads of copies turning up ... just needs an 'outa sight' re-issue now to finally kill it off.

Already been done.

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that out a site format should be the most expensive format if the pg copy is fake and the amount of gloreco copies currently surfacing

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Must check it but its an RCA stamp on the Gloreco.

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The Gloreco copies appear to be from one main source, namely Brad. Anyone out there who can put a figure to the quantity that have turned up? Any info would be appreciated as I intend to upgrade my VG copy at some stage but need to know when to join the bidding wars...

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The Gloreco copies appear to be from one main source, namely Brad. Anyone out there who can put a figure to the quantity that have turned up? Any info would be appreciated as I intend to upgrade my VG copy at some stage but need to know when to join the bidding wars...

Thanks

I don't think he got many copies left as he got these nearly 2 years ago and I think all the stone mint ones have gone now. So all he has are a handful of the lesser graded ones.

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I don't think he got many copies left as he got these nearly 2 years ago and I think all the stone mint ones have gone now. So all he has are a handful of the lesser graded ones.

How much was he selling them for ?

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How much was he selling them for ?

He was getting about £400 on the mint ones, the lesser one, don't know

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this is one 45 that i would not touch over 75, its a fifty quid record.

 

The lavonne bridges 45 on the same label is much better and rarer.... in my oppinion

 

 many copys of this sheri taylor turned up in detroit as unplayed stock a few year ago

 

brad h found them, and sold them on e bay  ( am i wrong)

 

good 45, dont get me wrong

 

but one 45 that i always thought we were paying to much for when it was big

 

mick smith would have sold them for 8 quid in the 80s

 

i think there are loads of them

 

so would advise you not to pay much

 

the other 45 on gloreco if brad has quantity fair play

 

i bought mine of john manship years ago

 

i was under the impression it was from a dj called shifty and was his old copy

 

i have no idea who he was

 

but i may have gone to southend and got a tape

 

its a great record

 

it was also fred bridges very first outing  singing and writing

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this is one 45 that i would not touch over 75, its a fifty quid record.

 

The lavonne bridges 45 on the same label is much better and rarer.... in my oppinion

 

 many copys of this sheri taylor turned up in detroit as unplayed stock a few year ago

 

brad h found them, and sold them on e bay  ( am i wrong)

 

good 45, dont get me wrong

 

but one 45 that i always thought we were paying to much for when it was big

 

mick smith would have sold them for 8 quid in the 80s

 

i think there are loads of them

 

so would advise you not to pay much

 

Have you got one - and how much did you pay?

 

If you haven't got one I don't think you will get one for 75 quid mate - not unless there are another couple of boxes in reserve that will bring the price down significantly.

 

Cheers

 

Richard

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If you haven't got one I don't think you will get one for 75 quid mate - not unless there are another couple of boxes in reserve that will bring the price down significantly.

 

 

I can wait for that.  :wicked:

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it was also fred bridges very first outing  singing and writing

 

Interesting - if that's the case, then this would date the Lavonne Bridges (and possibly the Sheri Taylor) at around 1961 - 62.

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Its an RCA matrix stamp so should be easy to date.

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Interesting - if that's the case, then this would date the Lavonne Bridges (and possibly the Sheri Taylor) at around 1961 - 62.

Well it sounds precisely like it's from 61 -62 doesn't it?

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Have you got one - and how much did you pay?

 

If you haven't got one I don't think you will get one for 75 quid mate - not unless there are another couple of boxes in reserve that will bring the price down significantly.

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

yes

 

im not wanting to buy any gloreco 45s, i have them all.

 

i just think the fred bridges is the best record out of the three

 

thats my oppinion

 

its a nice 45

 

it is rarer than the sherri taylor 45

 

the preston smart 45 may be even rarer, but it is crap

 

you only want that if you are collecting labels

 

so there you have it

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On 10.6.2013 at 13:34, Premium Stuff said:

Agree the PG copies look wrong - although I have only seen pics of that one, not had it in my hand.

 

I think Manship auctioned one as an original a few years ago didn't he?

 

PG copy has gone for almost USD $900 according to Popsike.

 

Cheers

 

Richard

But why JM Point it out in the One Million Dollar Book if it will be an boot?

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On 7/24/2013 at 22:12, penny said:

 

Well it sounds precisely like it's from 61 -62 doesn't it?

Yep - to now put a finer point on it, I read of a release date for the Gloreco issue of November 1962 a few months ago.  According to the RCA matrix stamp, it was definitely released in 1962 in any case.

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1 hour ago, Zanetti said:

So, PG was First? Is this article verified?

Thx

I have no idea but someone will hopefully know, just thought it was good to post it and see 😀

I am sure someone know of Graham (I don't know him) but he has somewhat of a pedigree, it appears

"As a Press Officer for Pye Records and later CBS Records in London, Graham handled the publicity for several former Motown artists, including Gladys Knight & The Pips and Edwin Starr whilst with Pye (through their licences with Buddah and 20th Century Records respectively) and would work with Gladys Knight & The Pips (again!), Billy Griffin and Marvin Gaye whilst at CBS Records.
As a journalist for Melody Maker, Blues & Soul, Record Buyer and several other outlets, he has interviewed many Motown greats, including Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, The Temptations, The Commodores, Hal Davis, High Inergy and Harvey Fuqua, among others.
During the course of writing the Motown Encyclopedia, he has re-acquainted himself with many former Motown artists, checking facts and feats and getting the background stories to some of the greatest music ever produced. In short, nearly forty years of music industry experience has resulted in the definitive book about Motown."

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