Guest Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) How funny is that? Have a look on rarenorthernsoul.com..... Edited September 19, 2013 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Nick Soule Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Soff Sump. By the way, anyone know where this record is from? Seems like it turns up in Michigan a lot. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Soff Sump. By the way, anyone know where this record is from? Seems like it turns up in Michigan a lot. Detroit....and on jump off abel Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 It is not from Detroit despite having a similar logo to the James Ellis from Detroit. It is from Greensboro, North Carolina. I assume you are talking about "Talkin'" but the other Vee Gees record "It's so hard to say so long" comes with two different label variations / designs. One of the designs lists a totally different recording time but both recordings are identical. The other mystery behind "It's so hard to say so long" is that it's the exact same song as the Equasions on Pac Sounds out San Antonio. But both records credit themselves. It's not clear who stole from whom and how this obscure Carolinas song made it to San Antonio (or vice versa). More random info: the Equasions on Pac Sounds had three members of the Volumes on Garu. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 oh yeah, more random info, the Vee Gees are the same group as the Versatile Gents on Linco. Somehow they are related to Gin and the Gents who recorded on El Dorado and Miss Thing 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Nick Soule Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Thanks! I didn't think they were from Detroit despite numerous eBay listings saying it was. Sort of strange how often the record does turn up here in varying conditions, but I suppose people move. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Thanks! I didn't think they were from Detroit despite numerous eBay listings saying it was. Sort of strange how often the record does turn up here in varying conditions, but I suppose people move. the label clearly has some sort of detroit connection because the james ellis thing with the same design. i don't know what the connnection is though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Amazing how many people list the label as Sump Off as well.....A bit of NS history first played by Curtis at The Mecca.....Although I didn't hear it then, it's a record I have liked for a long time. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 i actually usually see people mislist the label of "it's so hard" as Dump Off which is funnier Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Amazing how many people list the label as Sump Off as well.....A bit of NS history first played by Curtis at The Mecca.....Although I didn't hear it then, it's a record I have liked for a long time. One of my favourite 45's Steve. ("Talkin'") 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jason S Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 There's that Bill Williams on Dump Off that's a NC thing isn't it? The credits seem to point that way: co written by Slack Johnson who worked with Walt Grady Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 There's that Bill Williams on Dump Off that's a NC thing isn't it? The credits seem to point that way: co written by Slack Johnson who worked with Walt Grady it's still "jump off". the musical note design makes it look like a D. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rich B Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It was written up in Ian Levine's "Hey Mr dj" column in Black Music at the time too if I remember correctly. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Amazing how many people list the label as Sump Off as well.....A bit of NS history first played by Curtis at The Mecca.....Although I didn't hear it then, it's a record I have liked for a long time. Agree Steve. It's a very nice record with lots of things going for it. Nice info from Bob and others too. Cheers everyone. Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sjay Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 First came across this in 1976 75p front page of Soul Bowl list ................should have bought a boxful lol Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jason S Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 it's still "jump off". the musical note design makes it look like a D. Design fail #2 there! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Lfcjunkie Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 the label clearly has some sort of detroit connection because the james ellis thing with the same design. i don't know what the connnection is though. Isn't the 'j' shaped like a basketball player in a jump position my brother had this record a long time ago and he pointed that out then and was told that a basketball player owned the label cant remember any name though could be wrong but it would make sense looking at the 'j' figure Dave L 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 https://www.carolinasoul.org/north/j.htm Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest drewid Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yes I either read it , or was told that the label owner also ran a basketball team hence the label being called " jump off " presumably that's a basketball term . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Oddest looking J ever.... And t'other design.... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Oddest looking J ever....image.jpg And t'other design....image.jpg Interesting, I have another Vee Gees record on the same design as Talkin but a different colour, yellowish I think. Problem is it's in the garage so I can't find it in the dark. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I'm off for a 'dump' or is it a 'jump' ? Actually both sound like too much information Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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