Programming

[Guest]

Can't say that I have been to a great deal of nighters over the last few years at all but on the occassions I have, I have me little blow out in the Northern Room now and then and generally gravitate to the Modern Room.

Now it's a bit pot & kettle for me to bring this subject up but I find with production techniques as they are today - with more housey stuff being played than ever before - that the programming of some djs leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't see how some of todays more housey selections can be slipped slip easily into either side of say, a danceable soul cut from the 70s and an 80s thing - but they are.

The last time I went out I had to leave the room I was in on a number of occassions as I felt the programming was terrible, it jarred.

Now I know it is all about quality soulful music but surely programming and a flow must count for something.

Any thoughts?

(Being new to the board I may be going over old ground, if so ignore me )

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Can't say as i've come across this too often Hotty, maybe we frequent different venues but i seldom have come across a modern room where Y2K+4 Soul (just runs off the tongue don't it?? ) Soulful Dance and 70/80's Modern are mixed up in one set. Certainly the events in the NW especially have a very upfront feel to them in general but i get the impression that the house element is on the wain a little. A couple of years back it seemed that at every event there was too much house content verging on clubby at times yet nowadays there is a lot less of the banging stuff and what house is included is of a more gentle persuasion.

Having said that liking a bit of it all so to speak i quite like an eclectic mix that throws in everything including the kitchen sink but that is not an easy skill to pull off, depends who's doing it i suppose and how much thought they put into it, assuming of course that they have the instinct in the first place :o

Max mixter Trouty

[Guest]

Can't say as i've come across this too often Hotty, maybe we frequent different venues but i seldom have come across a modern room where Y2K+4 Soul (just runs off the tongue don't it?? ) Soulful Dance and 70/80's Modern are mixed up in one set. Certainly the events in the NW especially have a very upfront feel to them in general but i get the impression that the house element is on the wain a little. A couple of years back it seemed that at every event there was too much house content verging on clubby at times yet nowadays there is a lot less of the banging stuff and what house is included is of a more gentle persuasion.

Having said that liking a bit of it all so to speak i quite like an eclectic mix that throws in everything including the kitchen sink but that is not an easy skill to pull off, depends who's doing it i suppose and how much thought they put into it, assuming of course that they have the instinct in the first place  :o   

Max mixter Trouty

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Thanks for the reply T and it is a while since I have shuffled down Northern Soul Road.

Still I went to The Ritz a few Boxing Days back and the programming there, with no new stuff, again left a lot to be desired.

Perhaps I'm out of the routine mate! haha

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

May be but if you're coming back after seeing things from a house perspective then yes, there's no doubt that old soulies can't mix!! Whats more they shouldn't be allowed to either, but that's not where i thought you were heading.

I suppose the other factor for consideration may be that the 70's/ 80's used on the modern scene are generally a world away from the 70's 80's used on the House Disco scene....

John

[Guest]

May be but if you're coming back after seeing things from a house perspective then yes, there's no doubt that old soulies can't mix!! Whats more they shouldn't be allowed to either, but that's not where i thought you were heading.

I suppose the other factor for consideration may be that the 70's/ 80's used on the modern scene are generally a world away from the 70's 80's used on the House Disco scene....

John

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I wasn't talking about mixing at all T, just track selection - I understand the Northern Scene very well, I spent from 79 to about 1992 buried in it, I just didn't see an improvement in the understanding of how tracks should/could be used.

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Well that's different then, i couldn't comment as i don't know the tracks or the DJ to whom you refer. :o

JoT

[oldsteve woomble]

Can't say that I have been to a great deal of nighters over the last few years at all but on the occassions I have, I have me little blow out in the Northern Room now and then and generally gravitate to the Modern Room.

Now it's a bit pot & kettle for me to bring this subject up but I find with production techniques as they are today  - with more housey stuff being played than ever before - that the programming of some djs leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't see how some of todays more housey selections can be slipped slip easily into either side of say, a danceable soul cut from the 70s and an 80s thing - but they are.

The last time I went out I had to leave the room I was in on a number of occassions as I felt the programming was terrible, it jarred.

Now I know it is all about quality soulful music but surely programming and a flow must count for something.

Any thoughts?

(Being new to the board I may be going over old ground, if so ignore me )

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Think I know what you're on about. I like to hear (and play) a good mixed set that dips into all eras. Sticking with one era makes it a bit dull (IMHO ) . But, as you say, the right records have to be programmed to get away with this. Personally, I don't see a problem with a set that rolls through the eras, starting with 6ts and naturally progressing through the 7ts, 8ts, 9ts and (yes!) even finishing up on a gently soulfully garidge kinda thing! And it works! There ya go then peoples, design a set that takes in all eras....answers on a postcard to.....

[Guest rachel]

Now I know it is all about quality soulful music but surely programming and a flow must count for something.

Any thoughts?

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Not a frequent frequenter ( ) of Modern rooms but this sort of thing came up under the 'Microphone' thread... am a great believer in and love to hear a 'flowing' set that moves between different styles by I think what you mean by 'programming' rather than jumping about between them. It definitely does jar (and I have heard this) to have a set of randomly thrown together R&B, modern, oldies, soulful dance... IMO.

[Guest]

I think the key to a "Flowing" set has to be a "Bridge" track (stating the obvious)but would be of interest to me to read a selection of lists that flow, just as a critique, hell i may even do a collection of ten of my personal favs that encompass

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