Chris Bartley-Going Out Of My Mind

[Harry Crosby]

Hadn`t heard this fantastic record for many years, until last night, when I played it on the tube. Big Searling spin in the late 70`s early 80`s I believe. Is this a one off. acetate only and was Chris bartley a cover up name, or the true identity of the artist?? Thanks for any info-H

 

 

 

 https://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqQnHK8Q8qc

Edited November 22, 2013 by HARRY CROSBY

[Barry]

Hadn`t heard this fantastic record for many years, until last night, when I played it on the tube. Big Searling spin in the late 70`s early 80`s I believe. Is this a one off. acetate only and was Chris bartley a cover up name, or the true identity of the artist?? Thanks for any info-H

 

 

 

 https://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqQnHK8Q8qc

 

Massive mainhall memories - love it Harry

[Tfk]

Massive mainhall memories - love it Harry

Fantastic record and a great call on Chris Barley ( back end of Wigan but defo Clifton Hall biggie )

tfk

Edited November 22, 2013 by tfk

[Barry]

Fantastic record and a great call on Chris Barley ( back end of Wigan? - but defo Clifton Hall biggie )

tfk

 

Yeah, I remember it at the back end of Wigan, beginning of Clifton Hall.

[Barry]

Just listening to it again and how much the mix simply makes it a 'big room' sound - so much space around everything.

 

What year are we going with - sounds so sixties but maybe mid 70's?

[Goldsoul]

The acetate was discovered by moi in 1977 when I cleaned out April Blackwood publishing's office.

The identity of the artist is Van McCoy. He sang lead on most of his song demos. I still have Van's demo of 'I Get The Sweetest Feeling'.

From the same haul, I had other crackers such as 'Standing In The Need of Love by Francine Barker of Peaches and Herb.

I sold the ' I Go Out of My Mind' to RS around 1978 ish along with Johnny Honeycutt and the Cashmeres.

[Harry Crosby]

Just listening to it again and how much the mix simply makes it a 'big room' sound - so much space around everything.

 

What year are we going with - sounds so sixties but maybe mid 70's?

Could you call it a crossover record Barry??

[Barry]

The acetate was discovered by moi in 1977 when I cleaned out April Blackwood publishing's office.

The identity of the artist is Van McCoy. He sang lead on most of his song demos. I still have Van's demo of 'I Get The Sweetest Feeling'.

From the same haul, I had other crackers such as 'Standing In The Need of Love by Francine Barker of Peaches and Herb.

I sold the ' I Go Out of My Mind' to RS around 1978 ish along with Johnny Honeycutt and the Cashmeres.

 

Another put to bed, thanks for the post and the find    

 

Well in Harry, got a shiver or two again

Edited November 22, 2013 by Barry

[Harry Crosby]

The acetate was discovered by moi in 1977 when I cleaned out April Blackwood publishing's office.

The identity of the artist is Van McCoy. He sang lead on most of his song demos. I still have Van's demo of 'I Get The Sweetest Feeling'.

From the same haul, I had other crackers such as 'Standing In The Need of Love by Francine Barker of Peaches and Herb.

I sold the ' I Go Out of My Mind' to RS around 1978 ish along with Johnny Honeycutt and the Cashmeres.

Thanks Kev, I bet that was a spine tingling moment hearing that for the first time

[Barry]

Could you call it a crossover record Barry??

 

Just a Wigan record to me Harry - I've lost me Book Of Pigeon Holes  - production, drums etc gave it away a bit as a bit later.

[Barry]

The acetate was discovered by moi in 1977 when I cleaned out April Blackwood publishing's office.

The identity of the artist is Van McCoy. He sang lead on most of his song demos. I still have Van's demo of 'I Get The Sweetest Feeling'.

From the same haul, I had other crackers such as 'Standing In The Need of Love by Francine Barker of Peaches and Herb.

I sold the ' I Go Out of My Mind' to RS around 1978 ish along with Johnny Honeycutt and the Cashmeres.

 

Btw - it's always been in me Top 20 must-haves from that time - ain't happening is it?

[Harry Crosby]

Just a Wigan record to me Harry - I've lost me Book Of Pigeon Holes  - production, drums etc gave it away a bit as a bit later.

 Barry, was just getting my tin hat out and getting under the kitchen table.   Would Pigeon hole that one under Sublime Soul music

[Barry]

 Barry, was just getting my tin hat out and getting under the kitchen table.   Would Pigeon hole that one under Sublime Soul music

 

A perfect - PERFECT - description Harry 

[Barry]

I sold the ' I Go Out of My Mind' to RS around 1978 ish along with Johnny Honeycutt and the Cashmeres.

 

 

What did you get for it?

[Goldsoul]

What did you get for it?

I sold it for £50 with Johnny Honeycutt and The Cashmeres £100 each. I think that should have told me my days as a record seller were numbered 

As for the other question ' I bet that was a spine tingling moment hearing that for the first time' .....Remember it was at a time when the biggies consisted of Jamie, Peter Jarrett, Burning Bush etc, so 'I Go Out Of My Mind' sounded like a really good Soul demo, but not for dancing. Probably Richard would have been the only DJ buyer around that had interest in it.  

Edited November 22, 2013 by The Golden 101

[Barry]

I sold it for £50 with Johnny Honeycutt and The Cashmeres £100 each. I think that just have told me my days as a record seller were numbered 

As for the other question ' I bet that was a spine tingling moment hearing that for the first time' .....Remember it was at a time when the biggies consisted of Jamie, Peter Jarrett, Burning Bush etc, so 'I Go Out Of My Mind' sounded like a really good Soul demo, but not for dancing. Probably Richard would have been the only DJ buyer around that had interest in it.  

 

Ouch!!

 

There was a great crowd in there towards the back end that were hungry for new material, be it slow, fast, odd or Modern - so as much as I'll always love Richard for what he did and what he did it with - I'll also lay plaudits to the crowd at the time too for taking 'em onboard and making them the floor-fillers they were.

[Barry]

What would the board say it's worth?

 

One off acetate, big Wigan sound, top quality memory prodder.

Edited November 22, 2013 by Barry

[Goldsoul]

I think the acetate has TM publishers on the label. A well known music house, a lot of their stuff was mixed into the April Blackwood haul. Oddly enough, I was more impressed with finding a 10 inch reference dub of the Sweet Things at the time, now you would be all on to get £30 for it. The 70's eh!

[Guest MrC]

The acetate was discovered by moi in 1977 when I cleaned out April Blackwood publishing's office.

The identity of the artist is Van McCoy. He sang lead on most of his song demos. I still have Van's demo of 'I Get The Sweetest Feeling'.

From the same haul, I had other crackers such as 'Standing In The Need of Love by Francine Barker of Peaches and Herb.

I sold the ' I Go Out of My Mind' to RS around 1978 ish along with Johnny Honeycutt and the Cashmeres.

 

This is why I love this site! You're always finding out new stuff, the back story to tunes and people that hold so many memories etc.

Great stuff.

 

Nice one Kev

[Pete S]

Nice Casino tape here featuring said track - last track actually

 

 

 

https://x.mixcloud.com/mayfairmenthol/wigan-casino-1980-classic-richard-searling-dj-spot/

[TOAD]

Should be in refosoul under toad live tapes

[Barry]

What would the board say it's worth?

 

One off acetate, big Wigan sound, top quality memory prodder.

 

£600 -£800??

Edited November 22, 2013 by Barry

[Chalky]

The acetate was discovered by moi in 1977 when I cleaned out April Blackwood publishing's office.

The identity of the artist is Van McCoy. He sang lead on most of his song demos. I still have Van's demo of 'I Get The Sweetest Feeling'.

From the same haul, I had other crackers such as 'Standing In The Need of Love by Francine Barker of Peaches and Herb.

I sold the ' I Go Out of My Mind' to RS around 1978 ish along with Johnny Honeycutt and the Cashmeres.

 

 

The "Standing In The Need Of Love", is this the one credited to The Charmaines that went to Jimmy Wensiora then Rob Marriott?  If so then it's Sandi Sheldon, she sang it as well at Cleethorpes.

Didn't Rob Marriott have the Chris Bartley at one point?  As for crossover, nah, it's just a decent 60's soul record.  Have a decent recording of it somewhere.

[Pete S]

The "Standing In The Need Of Love", is this the one credited to The Charmaines that went to Jimmy Wensiora then Rob Marriott?  If so then it's Sandi Sheldon, she sang it as well at Cleethorpes.

Didn't Rob Marriott have the Chris Bartley at one point?  As for crossover, nah, it's just a decent 60's soul record.  Have a decent recording of it somewhere.

 

I never knew that about Sandi Sheldon.

I did a podcast with the studio acetate of the Chris Bartley on it, I'll see if I can find it

[Goldsoul]

Probably was. Jim would have got it from me.

[Pete S]

https://x.mixcloud.com/mayfairmenthol/for-northern-soul-connoisseurs-everywhere/

 

1.Till the end of time

byUnknown Artist

2.WIN YOUR LOVE

byLittle Charles & The Sidewinders

3.Daydreamer

byEddie Holland

4.HERE I SIT /

byThe Ronettes

5.INVESTIGATE (BACKING TRACK) /

byTHE MAJOR’S BAND

6.YOU AIN’T GOT A CHANCE /

byDiane Lewis

7.I'll Come Running

byCarolyn Crawford

8.SPOIL ME

byTimi Yuro

9.IT’S NEEDLESS TO SAY (ALT) /

byBERNARD WILLIAMS & THE BLUE NOTES

10.WAIT TIL I GET YOU IN MY ARMS

byVan McCoy

11.I GO OUT OF MY MIND /

byChris bartley

12.SOME DAY THE SUN WILL SHINE /

byDeon Jackson

13.THE TINGLE (TAKE 2) /

byLITTLE CARL & THE DETROIT HITMEN

14.I don't want to talk about it

byShane Martin

15.WHAT SHOULD I DO (INST)

byDAVE HAMILTON BAND

16.OH YEAH YEAH (LONG INTRO)

byVIVIAN CARROLL

17.IT’S JUST LOVE

byVAL SIMPSON

18.TOUCH OF VENUS (INST) /

byDOC’S BAND

19.Clock On The Wall

byWENDY ANDREWS

20.My Dear Heart

byBARBARA MERCER

21.DON’T PRETEND (INST)(NO STRING OVERDUBS) /

byMIRWOOD STRINGS

22.COME GO WITH ME (INST) /

byUPTOWN STRINGS

23.OH LORD WHAT’S HAPPENING TO YOUR PEOPLE (REMIX) /

byKenny Smith

24.LIKE ONE (ALT) /

byJEAN CARTER

25.THE RIGHT KIND (VOCAL) /

byUnknown Artist

26.LOVER (ALT)

byThe De-Lites

Edited November 22, 2013 by Pete S

[Chalky]

Probably was. Jim would have got it from me.

 

 

I remember you saying Kev that you found it with a load of Date stuff etc.

[Chalky]

I never knew that about Sandi Sheldon.

I did a podcast with the studio acetate of the Chris Bartley on it, I'll see if I can find it

 

She was great when she sang it at Cleethorpes, you could tell it was her on the acetate.

[Barry]

I know no one is biting on the price but to me it is a Top 20 Wigan sound.....if I had it whatever it was I would pay it....Searling could not have done a more varied and better job than he did at Wigan at that time.....and this is me thirty years on having listened and heard everything that I have since.

A singularly beautiful piece of song writing, topped off with a sublime vocal by the author, laid down in one un-better able vocal...love you for that alone my man Van. X

Edited November 22, 2013 by Barry

[Derek Pearson]

What would the board say it's worth?

 

One off acetate, big Wigan sound, top quality memory prodder.

 

 

£600 -£800??

 

Blimey had forgotten just how wonderfully floaty "Going out of my mind" is and wow quite simply a fabulous piece of soul music.

 

 

Pretty certain a mate of mine still has a Chris Bartley acetate which he bought and played a bit at the Bradford Queens Hall allnighters early nineties.

 

However an alarm bell is ringing somewhere in the back of my mind as the above title doesn't ring a bell.

 

He offered it to me a few years ago for a rather large amount of folding.

 

However I was told at the time there were a few acetates of it knocking about.

 

Was the word "Sunshine" in the title?

 

Better text him now to clear the foggg....

 

Derek

[Barry]

wonderfully floaty

 

 

[Pete S]

Blimey had forgotten just how wonderfully floaty "Going out of my mind" is and wow quite simply a fabulous piece of soul music.

 

 

Pretty certain a mate of mine still has a Chris Bartley acetate which he bought and played a bit at the Bradford Queens Hall allnighters early nineties.

 

However an alarm bell is ringing somewhere in the back of my mind as the above title doesn't ring a bell.

 

He offered it to me a few years ago for a rather large amount of folding.

 

However I was told at the time there were a few acetates of it knocking about.

 

Was the word "Sunshine" in the title?

 

Better text him now to clear the foggg....

 

Derek

 

It's called I Go Out Of My MInd.

[Roburt]

"Going out of my mind" sounds very familiar (didn't know I knew it till now). I guess Richard must have played it a lot at Clifton Halls in the early 80's.

 

Move Records had a deal with Chris Bartley in the mid 80's (via Bill Downs).

Pity his guys hadn't kept copies of his unreleased tracks or they could have made them available for UK release back then as well. 

Edited November 26, 2013 by Roburt

[Speedlimit]

The acetate was discovered by moi in 1977 when I cleaned out April Blackwood publishing's office.

The identity of the artist is Van McCoy. He sang lead on most of his song demos. I still have Van's demo of 'I Get The Sweetest Feeling'.

From the same haul, I had other crackers such as 'Standing In The Need of Love by Francine Barker of Peaches and Herb.

I sold the ' I Go Out of My Mind' to RS around 1978 ish along with Johnny Honeycutt and the Cashmeres.

Remember when you got these Kev you came into Rob smiths shop with them  and the you'll always be in style acetate,

[Goldsoul]

"Going out of my mind" sounds very familiar (didn't know I knew it till now). I guess Richard must have played it a lot at Clifton Halls in the early 80's.

Move Records had a deal with Chris Bartley in the mid 80's (via Bill Downs).

Pity his guys hadn't kept copies of his unreleased tracks or they could have made them available for UK release back then as well.

It isn't by Chris Bartley. The vocalist is Van McCoy himself. Richard credited it to CB as I only had the song sheet along with the original acetate which contained no identity of the vocalist.

Van's sister told me it was Van when I played her my one off acetate of 'I Get The Sweetest Feeling'

[Goldsoul]

Remember when you got these Kev you came into Rob smiths shop with them and the you'll always be in style acetate,

You have a great memory, although I think I had them well before Rob opened(1980). 1977 seems to spring to mind.

The acetate you mentioned was by the Ad Libs.

A great time for me in NYC, bouncing between the likes of George Kerr, Herb Abramson(Festival) and a few others.

[Eddie Hubbard]

Did Chris Bartley " My heart belongs to you " , plus " Sing yeah sing " Van McCoy and Van's version of " Funny face girl " come from that acetate batch Kev ? I have tapes of them via Rob Marriott , who had them at the time [ 1995 ] cheers Eddie

[Goldsoul]

Did Chris Bartley " My heart belongs to you " , plus " Sing yeah sing " Van McCoy and Van's version of " Funny face girl " come from that acetate batch Kev ? I have tapes of them via Rob Marriott , who had them at the time [ 1995 ] cheers Eddie

Yes they did.

[Ady Croasdell]

You have a great memory, although I think I had them well before Rob opened(1980). 1977 seems to spring to mind.

The acetate you mentioned was by the Ad Libs.

A great time for me in NYC, bouncing between the likes of George Kerr, Herb Abramson(Festival) and a few others.

Did Herb ever say who the Flirtations were?

[Robbk]

The acetate was discovered by moi in 1977 when I cleaned out April Blackwood publishing's office.

The identity of the artist is Van McCoy. He sang lead on most of his song demos. I still have Van's demo of 'I Get The Sweetest Feeling'.

From the same haul, I had other crackers such as 'Standing In The Need of Love by Francine Barker of Peaches and Herb.

I sold the ' I Go Out of My Mind' to RS around 1978 ish along with Johnny Honeycutt and the Cashmeres.

I would LOVE to hear THAT one!!!  Is there a way we can listen to it?

[Goldsoul]

I would LOVE to hear THAT one!!! Is there a way we can listen to it?

I have ayes it at a few gigs but don't fancy posting it up anywhere. It's only a demo and not the actual backing track to Jackie Wilson. Historic piece and one off too.

[Goldsoul]

Did Herb ever say who the Flirtations were?

I think he mentioned Charlotte Stokes was in the group. Maybe Sidney Barnes knows?

He was still pretty emotional over his Atlantic fall out.