Premium Stuff Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hi everyone Wondering if The Soul President - Get It Right / Got To Have It (Big Mack) - red label, black print - has ever been bootlegged or done on a legit re-issue please? I know at least one Big Mack record (Manhattans) was done on a repro. Thanks for any info. Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazz Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hi Richard Yes it has ... looky likey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Nick Soule Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 According to discogs, it was reissued by Soul Fire. https://www.discogs.com/Soul-President-Get-It-Right-Got-To-Have-It/release/2174869 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Thanks Dazz and Nick This is a red Big Mack label with black print but just didn't look right. It's got a load of Soul Fire blurb pressing details and names in the deadwax. Must be the re-issue then. Was not sold as a re-issue though Anyone got any more information on either the Big Mack original or the Soul Fire re-issue please, including all the anorak matrix marks, label paper, font details etc? Cheers Richard Edited February 28, 2014 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest trickbag Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Notes This is the reissue from the Soul Fire label and sports a Soul Fire cat.no. SF-012 in the deadwax.Images try this Richard. ricky. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Can't see that picture Ricky - is it just me? Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest trickbag Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 'Soul Fire Dist SF-012' etched in runout groove. Other Versions (2 of 2) View All Title Label Cat# Country Year Get It Right / Got To Have It "Ž (7") Big Mack 24221 US 1968 Get It Right / Got To Have It "Ž (7", RE) Soul Fire SF 012 US 2001 two songs by Soul President, a Bay Area act whose single "Got to Have It" b/w "Get It Right" was reissued by Big Mack in the Detroit area despite being a failure in its original domicile. Listening to the killer beat, psychedelic guitar, and enthusiastic vocals, it's hard to fault McCoy for taking the risk. reissue on ebay Starting bid: £3.99 ended [ 0 bids ] Price: $155.49 USD Start Date: April 21, 2013 End Date: April 28, 2013 Bids: 5 Seller Feedback: 924 Buyer Feedback: 327 THE SOUL PRESIDENT - GET IT RIGHT / GOT TO HAVE IT on BIG MACK CONDITION: EX (some marks that can't be heard and slight tear on label A side) ORIGINAL COPY not the Soul Fire reissue. Killer raw funk by Rhon Silver AKA The Soul President. Hear it on an MP3 taken from the actual copy ricky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cover-up Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I've heard serious collectors mention that the Soul President release on Big Mack was maybe a bootleg to begin with. Since it's a Detroit re-issue of Rhon Silva "Get It Right" on Uptight: https://www.discogs.com/Rhon-Silva-Get-It-Right-Got-To-Have-It/release/4673624 It's a bit strange that a Californian record would get a later release on a Detroit label under a different name? With McCoy taking a production credit, when it's not him on the Uptight label? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Thanks folks I have been very reliably advised that all Big Mack copies are boots. Does not make sense regarding the claim in a post above about an original and not being a Soul Fire original??? Mine is Soul Fire for sure - due to dead wax - obvious later looking label etc. Does anyone have any definitive anorak info on a Big Mack original please? I'm guessing the answer is "no" but I'm open to new info Cheers Richard Edited March 4, 2014 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cover-up Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I have been very reliably advised that all Big Mack copies are boots. I was implying that the "original" 60s Big Mack records maybe weren't entirely legitimate (or maybe they were?) since it's a "re-issue" of Rhon Silva on Uptight. What doesn't make sense in my post? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) I was implying that the "original" 60s Big Mack records maybe weren't entirely legitimate (or maybe they were?) since it's a "re-issue" of Rhon Silva on Uptight. What doesn't make sense in my post? It wasn't your post that I was picking up specifically on mate, but on the point in Ricky's post #7 which states "ORIGINAL COPY not the Soul Fire reissue. Killer raw funk by Rhon Silver AKA The Soul President. Hear it on an MP3 taken from the actual copy" Cheers Richard Edited March 10, 2014 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cover-up Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 It wasn't your post that I was picking up specifically on mate, but on the point in Ricky's post #7 which states "ORIGINAL COPY not the Soul Fire reissue. Killer raw funk by Rhon Silver AKA The Soul President. Hear it on an MP3 taken from the actual copy" Cheers Richard Scans on Popsike look very slightly different to the Soul Fire re-issue: https://www.popsike.com/Soul-President-FUNK-45-Get-It-Right-Got-To-Have-It/170163350900.html Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulhawk Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Thanks folks I have been very reliably advised that all Big Mack copies are boots. Does not make sense regarding the claim in a post above about an original and not being a Soul Fire original??? Mine is Soul Fire for sure - due to dead wax - obvious later looking label etc. Does anyone have any definitive anorak info on a Big Mack original please? I'm guessing the answer is "no" but I'm open to new info Cheers Richard I have a non-Soulfire Big Mack late 60s/early 70's pressing the deadwax has Delta Symbol 74505 / Delta 74505 - X AND 24221-A / 24221 - B the pressing plant logo looks like an ALCO pressing - but there's another logo that looks scribbled out & yet another logo that looks like a KW seems Big Mack had the metal plates? pointing towards some sort of authorized release Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) I have a non-Soulfire Big Mack late 60s/early 70's pressing the deadwax has Delta Symbol 74505 / Delta 74505 - X AND 24221-A / 24221 - B the pressing plant logo looks like an ALCO pressing - but there's another logo that looks scribbled out & yet another logo that looks like a KW seems Big Mack had the metal plates? pointing towards some sort of authorized release Thanks very much for those details - very helpful Any chance of a label scan please? Cheers Richard Edited March 11, 2014 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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