Tfk Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) ...Darrell Banks (OLIITP) was the ultimate whilst getting into Northern Soul in the mid 70s - awesome stuff !!! I thought... It just blew me away and was massive hit in the youth clubs back then ..I guess at the time I should have been studying for ma exams but all I could think about was this music and visiting a guy selling records on Worksop market (Pete Ward ) he was raving on about and kept playing a version by JJ Barnes .. ... Now just listening again and with time I thought JJ may kinda just nudge it ??? See what you think ? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvoZLrH3LPQ&autoplay=1 great video BTW.... TFK Edited March 3, 2014 by tfk 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jimmy Mack Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 jj every time. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Kev Cane Posted March 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Remember myself and my mate Gaz Simon being at Martin Koppells unit on an industrial estate in Toronto full of records in 1989, some coloured guys had come up all the way from New York to buy soul records, Martin was playing them some records on a little deck, he then put on Darrell Banks "Open the door" I will never forget the reaction of these guys, whooping and high fives all round, its their music so to speak, yet it brought it home how we take incredible soul music for granted, "envy you the thrill of hearing it the 1st time" comes to mind Andy Kev Edited March 2, 2014 by kev cane 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Rodders22 Posted March 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2014 Darrell Banks for me, what passion, what a bloody double header. Top draw. Rod. 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I like them both a lot but the J.J. Barnes version has the edge over Darrell's . 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Darrell for me 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pogo paul Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrell Banks for me, what passion, what a bloody double header. Top draw. Rod. True 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrell Banks by a mile. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrell Banks for me, what passion, what a bloody double header. Top draw. Rod. Yes,one of the all time 2 fer's. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Boyle Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Darrell Banks - No contest Open the door to your heart has been in my top 10 since time began Edited March 3, 2014 by Mick Boyle 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulstu Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrell Banks for me too every time, although don't want to diss JJ too much as he had a great voice. Just prefer the timbre and phrasing of DB. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
joe lakin Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 DARRELL 4me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Daved Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I prefer Darrell as I heard him first. It was one of the first proper records I bought. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
billbaker Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Like both but definitely Darrell Banks - much more passionate. Heard Open The Door To Your Heart first in early 1970, it was one of the records that first hooked me in to this great scene. Has to be the best ever double sider, certainly to this oldie's ears. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrell for me off the LP take but I do like the styrene fizz off the single. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I can't find a decent sound clip of Open The Door by Major Lance to put up here. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wilxy Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Both vocally superb, but Darrell Banks gets my plaudits on this one Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Lofthouse Posted March 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrel Banks is the epitome of Northern Soul - for me it defines the whole thing.... ....A 60's UK release (on the iconic Stateside label) ....A legendary promo only release on an earlier UK label (London) ....A non Motown Detroit release (on Revilot ) ....A fantastic double sider with Open the Door (maybe the best double sider ever) ....A truly great Soul Man and Singer One 45 ...anyone asks about Northern Soul - give them a copy 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Darrel Banks is the epitome of Northern Soul - for me it defines the whole thing.... ....A 60's UK release (on the iconic Stateside label) ....A legendary promo only release on an earlier UK label (London) ....A non Motown Detroit release (on Revilot ) ....A fantastic double sider with Open the Door (maybe the best double sider ever) ....A truly great Soul Man and Singer One 45 ...anyone asks about Northern Soul - give them a copy Very much agree Mike. have always thought that all round this is the number one Northern record. Funnily enough "Open the Door" came on in the motor coming back from Nottingham with the missus on Saturday and I said to her "that for me it was the one Northern record that all others are measured against." ---- I might as well have been speaking to myself but she is a lovely lass all the same "Take all my blind soul baby, why don't you give it sight" Edited March 3, 2014 by Dave Turner Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Very much agree Mike. have always thought that all round this is the number one Northern record. Funnily enough "Open the Door" came on in the motor coming back from Nottingham with the missus on Saturday and I said to her "that for me it was the one Northern record that all others are measured against." ---- I might as well have been speaking to myself but she is a lovely lass all the same I'll tell her! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrell shades it for me. JJ is good though. P Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tobytyke Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 inseperable to me. And the wife calls me indecisive Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Love em both..darrell just edges it for me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) I can't find a decent sound clip of Open The Door by Major Lance to put up here. Major Lance version of Open the door to your heart is great and Freddie Scott ain't to bad either . tfk Edited March 3, 2014 by tfk 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Britishbarry Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrell Banks is the best version. I bought it on it's Stateside release when it came out and it was one of the records that got me hooked on our great music. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulstu Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrel Banks is the epitome of Northern Soul - for me it defines the whole thing.... ....A 60's UK release (on the iconic Stateside label) ....A legendary promo only release on an earlier UK label (London) ....A non Motown Detroit release (on Revilot ) ....A fantastic double sider with Open the Door (maybe the best double sider ever) ....A truly great Soul Man and Singer One 45 ...anyone asks about Northern Soul - give them a copy ...and the astonishing thing is you can still pick up the 1st issue US original for £15-ish. It's got to be the ultimate cheapie. Imagine if only a few copies had been pressed - it would be the holy grail. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Didn't know Freddie's version pretty good if not the best!!!!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest JIM BARRY Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 The general concencus is Mr Banks then.....I should think so too!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) As I said above, definitely Darrell for me. Only thing is - if it's for playing out it needs to be Darrell Banks on a Revilot White Demo so it's similar rarity for a JJ Barnes Edited March 3, 2014 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) "Somebody (Somewhere) Needs You" ain't too shabby either Edited March 4, 2014 by Louise 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Remember collecting a yellow London mint demo sold to me at £60 not bad at the time,sadley on the way back I got a £40 speeding fine 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulman58 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrell Banks for me, what passion, what a bloody double header. Top draw. Rod. Couldn't agree more possibly the best double header Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Didn't know Freddie's version pretty good if not the best!!!!!!! Freddie Scott's -1967 version is a great delivery of "Open the door to your heart " (old tape swappers sound from the 80s) Funky 16 Corners take on " Our love is in the pocket " When I began to understand the whole Northern Soul “thing”, I realized why this record (and to an even greater extent the 1969 cover by JJ Barnes — which used the same backing track) was so revered. If there was ever a record that could serve as a blueprint for a particular sound, ‘Our Love Is In the Pocket’ is it. From the propulsive 4/4 beat, to the ringing vibes, honking baritone sax and bright, sweet hooks, it’s as if it was ordered in the “one item from column A, one from column B” method from the Northern Soul “menu”. Banks hailed from Buffalo, NY, where he performed locally. He was eventually signed by Solid Hitbound productions (hence the GEO-SI-MIK connection) in Detroit, who borrowed the name of the Buffalo lounge where Banks performed (the Revilot) for a new label, on which Banks debut 45 would be the initial release. Released in 1966, ‘Open Up The Door To Your Heart’ would become a Top 40 success, dragging its B-side ‘Our Love Is In the Pocket’ along for the ride. Over the next four years, Banks would record 45s for Atco, Cotillion and Volt (as well as LPs for Atco and Volt), before he was tragically shot dead in a confrontation with an off-duty police officer in March of 1970. As I mentioned before, ‘Our Love Is In the Pocket’ was covered by J.J. Barnes in 1969, with a Parliaments cover ‘All Your Goodies Are Gone’ on the flipside. Barnes version is held by many in the Northern Soul world to be the superior/definitive version. On this point I must respectfully disagree. The only difference between the two records (which as I said employ the same backing track) are the vocals, and while I understand the preference among some for the somewhat silkier quality of Barnes voice, I vote for Banks. Edited March 3, 2014 by tfk 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Grumpyfella Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Darrell for me. Also was lucky enough to just pick up a copy on Quality in Canada for peanuts.... :-) 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rodders22 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) His best Soul Record for me Sorry I Can't turn bloody thing round. Rod Edited March 4, 2014 by Rodders22 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Prefer the Darrell Banks' version but find the lyrics easier to determine on JJ Barnes single...but lacks the power of DB. Arguably, the greatest double side 45 ever. However, wasn't it controversially played '25' times non stop and the punters told to F... off! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 His best Soul Record for meimage.jpg Sorry I Can't turn bloody thing round. Rod Don't bother, it doesn't hold a candle to Open The Door or Our Love... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony A Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Here ya go Rod. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) J.J. Barnes in 1969, with a Parliaments cover ‘All Your Goodies Are Gone’ on the flipside Was the b side Parliaments? or JJ Barnes version...if so , I've never heard it 222 - J.J. Barnes - Our Love Is In The Pocket / All Your Goodies Are Gone (Inst.) - 1968 found details. Edited March 4, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulstu Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Don't get me wrong, I love J.J. Barnes to bits, but I'd have preferred it if he'd re-recorded the entire song rather than singing over a three year old backing track. Knowing that spoils it a bit for me Not much different from the 'Lorraine Chandler' version of Love You Baby, other than that was crap.... and not Lorraine Chandler. Actually that's not fair, JJB will always be a great record, just not quite a classic. See also the Inspirations re-issue with new vocals. Is it the rarity value that gets us more excited about the JJB version than we should be? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) J.J. Barnes in 1969, with a Parliaments cover ‘All Your Goodies Are Gone’ on the flipside Was the b side Parliaments? or JJ Barnes version...if so , I've never heard it The flip of J.J. Barnes is an instrumental version of the Parliaments. https://youtu.be/0TuC5MaRjqk Cheers Richard Edited March 4, 2014 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 The flip of J.J. Barnes is an instrumental version of the Parliaments. https://youtu.be/0TuC5MaRjqk Cheers Richard Many thanks love the Parliaments track...was surprised that there was a JJ Barnes cover...mystery solved Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rodders22 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Thanks Tony, still trying to get head round my iPad! Hi Pete, I. See; I'm the one that loves you /Darrell Banks :easy on my Ears and just a great great Soul tune. Open the Door to your Heart/Our love (is in the Pocket) is get off your arse and make your way to dance floor. Northern Soul at its BEST:: Rod Edited March 4, 2014 by Rodders22 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Don't get me wrong, I love J.J. Barnes to bits, but I'd have preferred it if he'd re-recorded the entire song rather than singing over a three year old backing track. Knowing that spoils it a bit for me Not much different from the 'Lorraine Chandler' version of Love You Baby, other than that was crap.... and not Lorraine Chandler. Actually that's not fair, JJB will always be a great record, just not quite a classic. See also the Inspirations re-issue with new vocals. Is it the rarity value that gets us more excited about the JJB version than we should be? Don't agree: the female version of Love You Baby is very good, whoever it is, and it'll be a professional black singer from LA no doubt so not some white cover artist. The remake of No One Else Can Take Your Place is better than the original as well...in my opinion. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulstu Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Don't agree: the female version of Love You Baby is very good, whoever it is, and it'll be a professional black singer from LA no doubt so not some white cover artist. The remake of No One Else Can Take Your Place is better than the original as well...in my opinion. Fair point Pete, I think after the Sharonettes, Paula Roussell etc I have a little bit of a downer on Black Magic - probably colours my judgement, all though I'm still not bothered about it - is this going off topic?!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Fair point Pete, I think after the Sharonettes, Paula Roussell etc I have a little bit of a downer on Black Magic - probably colours my judgement, all though I'm still not bothered about it - is this going off topic?!! No I did know what you mean about The Sharonettes, but the vocalist on Love You Baby might be someone like Sherlie Matthews? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulstu Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 No I did know what you mean about The Sharonettes, but the vocalist on Love You Baby might be someone like Sherlie Matthews? Prefer the flip tho, don't you? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Smudger Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Here is an excellent live version from 1996 Willie Clayton Open the door to your heart but it's Darrell for me can remember finding my stateside copy in the 60's thought all my christmas's had come at once must be THE Best sixties double sider ever. One of my very favourite records of all time is Forgive Me off Here to stay and it also got a release by J.J.Barnes Edited March 4, 2014 by smudger 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Open The Door To Your Heart by Darrell Banks, if you close your eyes and just listen to the thing, it's one of the most beautiful, heartbreaking, emotional things you'll ever hear, this sort of music changes lives - and you can bet at the end of the session they just said "ok lads that's it, same time next week" and only thought about the next record they were going to make. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 A fab discussion on 2 slightly different versions of Our Love (Is in the pocket ) a tremendous piece of Detroit Uptempo 1960s Soul music - Darrell Banks original version and J J Barnes take (giving it a slightly different feel) what would we say then from a record collectors point of view ? London American Demo for DB and a Revilot Demo on JJ ? Was there a milti coloured demo or are they white label demos ? Defo agree that Darrell's "Open the door to your heart" is one of life's finest moments ....sheer brilliance tfk 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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