Writing On Label - Not Always A Bad Thing

[Soul16]

Back in the mid 80's, I went to a black music record fair at the Old Vic hotel in Wolverhampton and picked up a copy of Edwin Starr - I have faith in you on UK Polydor. It was in great condition, except for some wavy writing in ballpoint pen on the SOS side.

A couple of years ago I decided to catalogue my collection of 45's on my PC, including making notes about condition etc. It was only then that I noticed that the writing was actually Edwin's signature! 

I guess that in some circumstances, writing, or even radio station stickers can add interest and desirability to a record. A radio station sticker can put a 45 in a specific place in time I guess.

 

Does anyone else have anything of interest, or maybe you always like your labels 100% clean?

Edited April 20, 2014 by Soul16

[Windlesoul]

This was a weird thing. I was writing the chapter on the Novas Nine for "It's Better to Cry", had just interviewed Brian Mann, one of the founder members and writer of "Pain" / "Why Listen". Next day I picked up a copy of this 45 on Heritage (rarely pops up unlike the ABC mixed version), which had a message to an old ex-girlfriend written on the label by Brian all those years ago...

 

Edited April 19, 2014 by Windlesoul

[Swifty]

2 or 3 years ago I won a copy of DEE EDWARDS - I CAN DEAL WITH THAT for a very good price and noticed on the label was written 'Doris' twice , so I presumed that whoever once owned it was called Doris (No shit Sherlock , eh?) . I then looked up Dee Edwards on Wikipedia and found out that her real name was Doris Jean Harrell  .

I just wonder if it was her own copy or just coincidence  will never know.

 

here's the one I had

 

 

https://www.popsike.com/DEE-EDWARDS-RARE-DETO-LBL-I-CAN-DEAL-WITH-THAT-HEAR/260720400667.html

 

 

Cheers

 

Swifty

[Peter99]

SWIFTY, on 19 Apr 2014 - 3:25 PM, said:

2 or 3 years ago I won a copy of DEE EDWARDS - I CAN DEAL WITH THAT for a very good price and noticed on the label was written 'Doris' twice , so I presumed that whoever once owned it was called Doris (No shit Sherlock , eh?) . I then looked up Dee Edwards on Wikipedia and found out that her real name was Doris Jean Harrell  .

I just wonder if it was her own copy or just coincidence  will never know.

 

here's the one I had

 

 

https://www.popsike.com/DEE-EDWARDS-RARE-DETO-LBL-I-CAN-DEAL-WITH-THAT-HEAR/260720400667.html

 

 

Cheers

 

Swifty

That were Dirty Doris from Legbourne! Twice.

 

 

Nice

 

 LOL

[Swifty]

That were Dirty Doris from Legbourne! Twice.

 

 

Nice

 

 LOL

Nothing wrong with Dirty Doris from Legbourne matey   How you keeping fella , good I hope 

[Nick Soule]

I've got a copy of The El Count Executives on Gemini that has a bunch of girls names crossed off and then "from Leo" sort of as if he tried to give it to a girl, but they always gave it back or something. I've also got a cracked copy of Jackey Beavers on Revilot that's autographed that I traded a Rose Brooks with a birthday message written on the label for. 

[Soul16]

This was a weird thing. I was writing the chapter on the Novas Nine for "It's Better to Cry", had just interviewed Brian Mann, one of the founder members and writer of "Pain" / "Why Listen". Next day I picked up a copy of this 45 on Heritage (rarely pops up unlike the ABC mixed version), which had a message to an old ex-girlfriend written on the label by Brian all those years ago...

 

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I like the message, really sweet. 

[Benji]

I ounce bought MIke & Ray on Giant described as WOL. Turned out it's signed by them

[Pete S]

Had loads like that.  Sold a Linda Glass recently with a very long dedication from her to her neice I think it was.  Had a Holly St James where she had dedicated the sleeve, was to her sister I think.  And a Pye UK issue of "Joe 90 Theme" signed and dedicated by the great Barry Gray.

 

Edited April 19, 2014 by Pete S

[Soul16]

I'm out of 'likes', some great replies so far. Thanks.

[Mal C]

Got the Chuck Jackson of Gene R on here, some years ago, its the Drivelers (Nick Brown's) old copy and signed by the man, to the man!!

 

The Little Charles is from the West Coast and was part of a LA based collection, obviously his name was Coop, Ive seen loads of others all signed the same, be interested to find out if anybody else on here has some of his old tracks, and does anybody know anything more about him? allot of the 45's came over here via Shifty in 2002/3 I think...

 

Got some great Aussie ones, lots of Shirl loves Merv, and all that...

 

Mal

Edited April 19, 2014 by Mal C

[Premium Stuff]

Got the Chuck Jackson of Gene R on here, some years ago, its the Drivelers (Nick Brown's) old copy and signed by the man, to the man!!

 

The Little Charles is from the West Coast and was part of a LA based collection, obviously his name was Coop, Ive seen loads of others all signed the same, be interested to find out if anybody else on here has some of his old tracks, and does anybody know anything more about him? allot of the 45's came over here via Shifty in 2002/3 I think...

 

Got some great Aussie ones, lots of Shirl loves Merv, and all that...

 

Mal

 

I have a WDJ Jock Mitchell - Not A Chance In A Million on Impact that I'm pretty sure has "COOP" on it - and if I recall correctly came from Shifty around that time.

 

Cheers

 

Richard

[Steve G]

Got loads from groups and singers….A Turners Bros LP signed by nearly all of them, things like that. One of my favourites is probably Josh Pridgen of The Reflections writing on a copy of their first 45 "to Barbara - a very special black lady, love from Josh"….something like that. A bit of history, I am thinking he was proud as punch and gave a copy to his girlfriend…..

[Premium Stuff]

I always used to avoid W.O.L. like the plague and only wanted perfectly clean labels.

 

Then I saw the light one day and started to appreciate some of the magic stuff that appears on labels, like date stamps, shop/distributor and other stamps, DJ scribbled comments. Even some crosses can make some labels look better I reckon 

 

Here's one I bought exactly because it had what I guess must be a DJ's comment on.

 

This one shows that Sue Perrin wrote the song herself (writer credits missing from the label) and that she was "16 yrs from Det"[roit].

 

Great stuff in my book 

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

CLICK ON IMAGE TO SEE LARGER PICTURE

Edited April 19, 2014 by Premium Stuff

[Peter99]

Pete S, on 19 Apr 2014 - 4:38 PM, said:

Had loads like that.  Sold a Linda Glass recently with a very long dedication from her to her neice I think it was.  Had a Holly St James where she had dedicated the sleeve, was to her sister I think.  And a Pye UK issue of "Joe 90 Theme" signed and dedicated by the great Barry Gray.

 

Nice writing Pete - shame about the record!

 

[Chris L]

Back in the mid 80's, I went to black music record fair at the Old Vic hotel in Wolverhampton and picked up a copy of Edwin Starr - I have faith in you on UK Polydor. It was in great condition, except for some wavy writing in ballpoint pen on the SOS side. A couple of years ago I decided to catalogue my collection of 45's on my PC, including making notes about condition etc. It was only then that I noticed that the writing was actually Edwin's signature! I guess that in some circumstances, writing, or even radio station stickers can add interest and desirability to a record. A radio station sticker can put a 45 in a specific place in time I guess. 

Does anyone else have anything of interest, or maybe you always like your labels 100% clean?

 

Don't get too excited f there's writing on the label or not, the condition of the vinyl is more important to me. Have "Help me" by the Spellbinders with Bobby Shivers & Elouise Pennington's autograph, dated 1966 !!

Edited April 19, 2014 by Chris L

[Labeat]

What about  Frank Wilson signing Kenny Burrells "Do i".... didn't that add to the value.... ( i think iv'e got my fact right).

WOL is not a nice thing but there are certain exceptions as in this case

[Pete S]

What about  Frank Wilson signing Kenny Burrells "Do i".... didn't that add to the value.... ( i think iv'e got my fact right).

WOL is not a nice thing but there are certain exceptions as in this case

 

General consensus was it ruined it!

[Pete S]

Nice writing Pete - shame about the record!

 

 

Nah it's a great record - if you remove the Northern connotations - I love 60's tv themes

[Lionelonthevinyl]

Checked all of my records with writing on...I have some with x's on the play side as is the norm, but some have what looks like a two year olds scribble on...dont think these fit with the thread, but fancy these are what the majority of us have...good read though...have a good bank hols all.......Rob

[Soul16]

Nah it's a great record - if you remove the Northern connotations - I love 60's tv themes

I agree Pete. The theme from Department S was always a favourite of mine, along with High Chaparral.

[Peter99]

Pete S, on 19 Apr 2014 - 8:08 PM, said:

Nah it's a great record - if you remove the Northern connotations - I love 60's tv themes

 

 

Soul16, on 19 Apr 2014 - 8:29 PM, said:

I agree Pete. The theme from Department S was always a favourite of mine, along with High Chaparral.

Yep some great theme tunes out there.

 

Peter

[Jim Elliott]

At Fleetwood in 2000 Bobby Patterson signed my Aussie copy of 'What a wonderful night for love' without me realising as I was waffling on to him....

' To Jim, best wishes,your friend Bobby'

he were good live an all.

Jim

[Chris L]

General consensus was it ruined it!

 

Sandi Sheldon sent Ian L an autographed copy of "You're gonna make me"..............something like "Al my love to Ian from Sandi" 

Edited April 19, 2014 by Chris L

[Reforee]

I have quite a few autographs on 45s and never classed it as WOL!

 

the WOL labels that always makes me smile are some comments by unknowns like "not so hot" or "too fast/slow" but to my taste they are the complete opposite to the written comment.......just goes to prove that music taste is in the main an individual thing?

 

Dave

[Mick Boyle]

Asked Don Gardner to sign my copy of Is This Really Love, I didn't notice that he pulled out the biggest fattest magic marker you have ever seen,

totally wrecked the label but so what it was a pleasure to have time with a complete legend  

[Frankie Crocker]

General consensus was it ruined it!

A totally mindless act of incredible stupidity. Anyone with any genuine feelings for the music or the records would not have committed such wanton vandalism. There's only one Kenny from Scotland who walks on water and he scribbles his name on red football shirts for a good cause...

[Robbk]

I have a Distants on Thelma with Richard Street's and all the group members' signatures on it.  This was his new group, after Otis Williams, Elbridge Bryant and Melvin Franklin left to join Eddie Kendricks and Paul Williams to form The Temptatrions.

[boba]

I think really personal, long private messages / dedications from the artist to friends / lovers / family from back in the day are pretty awesome.

 

Records signed from the artist to British people in the '90s are less awesome.

[Crogger]

I think really personal, long private messages / dedications from the artist to friends / lovers / family from back in the day are pretty awesome.

 

Records signed from the artist to British people in the '90s are less awesome.

O.W.O.L.O.?

[boba]

O.W.O.L.O.?

 

haha, not exactly, i don't want some kid's name who bought it written all over the record. 

 

it took a minute but i actually figured out your abbreviation

[Stockholmsoulfox]

I bought this copy of the Brotherhood 45 "When You Need Me"  a while back ..not sure about the group line up but the tune was recorded in Ann Arbor Michigan, and the  autograph  from Carl (G)rimes with his phone number is addressed to nearby Detroit legend Emanuel Lasky!

 

It's a truly awesome 45 as well.. 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2014 by stockholmsoulfox

[Dave Pinch]

ive got a larry wright on a go go....but some bloke called popcorn wylie has scribbled his name on it.......also a joseph moore scribbled on by joseph moore

[Jim Elliott]

That sounds ' Ok with me ' Dave!

Sorry!

Jim.

[Steve Foran]

Got a Red Philtown You should o held on. Signed by Frankie Karl. My Groovettes Think it over baby is signed by the band leader ( Gene Read I think from memory). Too lazy to check sorry. Also last year or maybe the year before I was recovering from cancer and a very good mate went to see The Elgins locally and got a cardboard cover signed by Yvonne Vernee. Special message to me etc. Proud to say it houses her Sonbert issue.

 

Got loads of WOL!   

[Andreas B]

This one's always been one of my favorites in my 'wol' part of the collection. Valentine's Day 1969 

[Stuart Russell]

This post from the Groovesville USA blog is on the same theme.

 

Not written on the label but on the sleeve...

 

https://www.groovesvilleusa.com/blog/?p=2447

 

Stuart

[Eddie Hubbard]

Got this recently from my friend Cheryll Ann ..will never part with it ......and this great photo also

 

 

[Labeat]

Got a Red Philtown You should o held on. Signed by Frankie Karl. My Groovettes Think it over baby is signed by the band leader ( Gene Read I think from memory). Too lazy to check sorry. Also last year or maybe the year before I was recovering from cancer and a very good mate went to see The Elgins locally and got a cardboard cover signed by Yvonne Vernee. Special message to me etc. Proud to say it houses her Sonbert issue.

 

Got loads of WOL!   

 

Not sure if i know you mate but i hope you are well and fully recovered

[Andreas B]

another one 

[45cellar]

 

"Sincerely Barbra Mercer"

[45cellar]

 

"To WEBK From Charles"

 

and then difficult to make out. "E Hatcher" or "E Starr"

 

May be neither of course.

[Gointoagogo]

This is flip of I've Had It - I'm sure I've seen in the distant past another pic of this record with George's writing - maybe he did a few at pa's.

[boba]

subtle, i think the creations on globe one is the best so far. one of the best records and i would have never noticed the valentine's day.

 

you gotta pop out the metal center on that cheryl ann. i finally picked up that skill after years of unsuccessful attempts. apparently all rockabilly collectors can do it in 2 seconds.

[Mal C]

When I was at college in the 8ts, a new class mate of mine said his older brother played in Edwin Starr's band, as a drummer, all of us being from the Midlands in the UK, and Edwin living up that way I believed him. So I asked if he could get a picture signed which he promptly did, and I have treasured that for years, although I cant locate it at the moment, It's somewhere...

 

Anyhow I met up with my old College mate last year and he broke the news that the entire class were in on it, and the note was in fact signed by a guy called Curtis, who we all used to rip the piss out of...   God Damm!!! That's Revenge....  So Curtis Smith from Chelmsley Wood in Birmingham, if your out there, my response will be swift !!! 

 

love George Smith, here's a good one on his only LP...

 

M

Edited April 20, 2014 by Mal C

[Nick Soule]

[Andreas B]

LOVE THIS

 

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[45cellar]

HOLLYWOOD PRESS :

 

 

On the HOLLYWOOD PRESS DEMO for The "IN" Crowd, expect to have this sticker neatly placed on the Label.

[mid tempo]

Got johnny mae mathews sig on i have no choice.

Have you ever been in love across top of title.

Cant post a pic off my phone but no a man who can

Hopefully.

[mid tempo]

Sorted.