JOE TORQUAY Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Beth Bynum I'll Set You Free C/w It Hurts To Be In Love In the USA obviously much-rarer than thought of in Europe judging by forum musings on this history drenched 45. From beautician to highly respected maker of Detroit black music. This weeks offering to the alter of Northern Soul R&B is a very elusive Detroit creation dripping with Motor City history and and a little mystery. Mike Hanks’s early 60s association with House Of Beauty (HOB Records) owner Carmen Murphy saw the pair pen this song together from now famous 111 Mack Avenue, Detroit. Carmen of course went on to have a brief association with Motown Records with her HOB label and also sold the “Soul” label name to Berry Gordy in 1964. This 45 is prior to all those well documented events.. and is shrouded in a little mystery Stateside as some of Detroit’s Music Guru’s ponder 10 years back on it’s existance as none have them had seen a copy. Several replies to Ron Murphy’s plea for info on this disc received quote of “I have also only seen Star Maker #1929 listed; I’ve never met anyone who has seen a copy, and the members of the group that recorded the other Star Maker 45 didn’t know about it. It’s certainly a mystery. ” Another reply underlined this discs obscurity “I have never seen that on vinyl, nor heard a tape of it. I don’t know anyone that has seen it ” With these postings from time-served vinyl professors, I can only add this is my only recent encounter with the disc also. Topside is a thumpin’ R&B blaster - the flipside is a recognized Belgium “Popcorn” spin. Amazingly both sides better known in Europe than Detroit with it appearing on British compiled label listings. We could hardly validate it’s obscurity any more than the above ponderings does… Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 452.00 Major Lance Hey Little Girl C/w Crying In The Rain Major Lance fans and British Red & White DEMO addicts..How elusive is this 1963 British beauty? 1963 was a big year for Major Lance and his introduction to the British record collector - although he never secured a hit single, he did slowly but surely get “spotted” by the UK Soul-sleuths of the early 60s. As they waded through he Music-Paper review pages, release sheets and Record shop new arrival sections. It took three releases and an EP before “The Major” got a brief “nod” with his “Um, Um, Um, Um, Um, Um, Um” which Wayne Fontana covered and took on to become a hit. Within 3 more years though, he was the most revered Northern Soul artist on the planet..the rest of course is history. This was his 2nd. UK release and it sold virtually nothing - as a Red & white promo it is a rare & historical platter indeed and in this gleaming condition a rather delectable piece to own. Study scan carefully as the “white” of the Demo label has a tinge of age-browning particularly on the flipside…the vinyl and birth-sleeve are flawless. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 212.00 David Coleman Drown My Heart The British David Coleman spent decades at the BBC entertaining us Brits with his timeless sports commentaries, including quotes like. “The front wheel crosses the finish line, closely followed by the back wheel.” “That’s the fastest time ever run - but it’s not as fast as the world record.” “It’s a great advantage to be able to hurdle with both legs.” “If that had gone in, it would have been a goal.” and my all time favourite: “Forest have now lost six matches without winning.” But none of those enduring lines get even close to his New York namesakes..who delivers one of the most defiant “lost love” lines of all time “Yes, You Know Girl, That You Left Me Like Dirt On The Carpet… I’ll Pray One Day You’ll Find Yourself Brokenhearted..” Hector Rivera’s Orchestra serves up a smorgasbord of horns and bongo’s for David Coleman’s vocal to snarl and growl it’s way through his provocative commentary..woven into a spectacular Latin/Northern Soul dance rhythm “I personally I never do a DJ set without it…..even when I’m not DJing”. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 286.00 Joe Jama My Life Stampede igniting Northern Soul from the very moment Henry Atkinson’s discovery featured in the first DJ sets some 15 years since, when it was cheekily covered up as “Little Henry”. Yet another in a long line of San Antonio 60s offerings to the Northern Soul scene, this example being the most wanted, most popular and certainly the most dancefloor effective of them all. This listing offers the rare opportunity for the NS Jock to guarantee a nomadic dancefloor is immediately jostling again, as soon as the needle is dropped. This copy has surface marks but as you can hear it plays LOUD, clear & true. Label has “fade” check out the two scans.. A chance to own a “Monster” at a sensible price, we’re thinking. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 1,042.00 Eddie Carr Your Love Is Indescribly Delicious “Indescribably Delicious” & “Indescribably RARE!” I do wish someone would give me an alternative word to “rare”, just a mere glance at this 45 and the mere word “Rare” doesn’t do it justice.. Peter Sutcliffe “A little Moody” or Beyonce “Kissable” would be comparable understatements. This Los Angeles street level press of Willis Wooten’s currently played Philly monster is a little “beyond Rare” Hidden away on the flipside of an “Evel Knievel” novelty recording, you cannot get any obscurer than this fine take on the song. Vocally powerful with a muscular Frank Virtue & Johnny Stiles production the pumping horns loud and clean, with a studio full of keen girls wailing the answering chorus. Eddie’s vocal has that “grit” to lift the session another notch.. W. H. C. Records of Los Angeles - Produced by Virtue & Stiles looks and sounds “indescribably essential”. Condition is immaculate. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 404.00 Eddie Banks & Martha Jordan I Made A Change C/w Loving In The Right Direction Memphis Urban-Funk of the rarest kind, underlining the extreme Soul talent present in Bluff City throughout the 60’s & 70s. A marriage of two of the city’s lesser known artists, strutting their vocal mastery; with both of them belting out attitude and soul in equal quantities. Martha leads the proceedings with a “Mr. Big Stuff” style stance, telling her man she made a mistake and she has him sussed! Marttha: “You’re Ready To Tell Me All Of those Lies.. Making A Lots Of Simple Alibis” Eddie’s reply: “I’ve Had Lots Of Women, Had Them Large & Small, Baby You Don’t Have To Worry Bout Me Now, ‘Cause I Don’t Run Around At All…” He’s a bad boy..she’s a determined woman…the perfect combination to ignite those killer Lyrics, exploding with the help of Honkin’-Horns puncturing a dangerous Funk rhythm. My advice is buy this Hunk Of Funk, it’s damn RARE as rare as a faithful man I’d say…. Ouch! Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 311.00 Howard Guyton I Watched You Slowly Slip Away This weeks Northern Soul classic VINYL PRESS - STOCK copy showcases one the greatest contributors to the Northern Soul scene and indeed 60s music. Former Teen-Idol Teddy Randazzo was responsible for a plethora of stand out recordings during the 60s. On this Northern Soul classic he his joined by longstanding writing partner the equally talented Victoria Pike and a man about to make his mark on the music scene Dennis Lambert ( a massive influence on the Four Tops during their ABC years) add Louis Pegues to the table, and the room is bubbling with talent. All that is required is a vocal to carry this huge production… Big drum-roll intro - step up Howard to boom his stuff with a distinctive “Pitneyesque” vocal…effortlessly delivered into an imaginative Randazzo orchestration of highs & troughs building a full-on arrangement that screams NORTHERN SOUL!! … then a stroke of genius that seems to come so easily to Randazzo.. towards the end as the production flattens out… a little instrumental interlude is then unexpectedly elevated in the most-almighty string break ever to embrace a Northern Soul recording… Today if you want to witness string-power of such magnitude, you will need to attend the Royal Albert Hall in Promo Season.. Mr. Randazzo, you were IMHO the Daddy of the huge production… Back on subject - this listing is an immaculate rarely seen BLUE STOCK copy in utterly sumptuous condition… Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 262.00 Vala Reegan & The Valarons Fireman C/w Living In The Past It is completely by coincidence that this week we are applauding the expertise of the East Coast music makers. Already giving Teddy Randazzo a standing ovation we are now confronted with an even more successful New Yorker who ripped the pop-charts apart and long the way also provided some superior Northern Soul offerings. Bob Crewe and team were behind this crafting of the girl-sound with the mysterious one 45 only Vala Reegan & Her Valarons. This session handed over to Bob’s teammate Herb Bernstein, no stranger delivering the girl-group Northern Soul sound. This 45 a classic tune on the A-side “Fireman” but in recent times it’s the flipside that has jumped to the fore. “Living In The Past” is an absolutely sublime 1966 mid-tempo groove, that Barbara Banks covered on Veep. Contrasting but compelling double-helping of Northern Soul, with the topside an impressive upbeat NS dancer that has enjoy Club-turntable spins since it’s seldom seen 1966 UK birth. Flip it over for a different encounter as the partnership of Herb Bernstein & Bob Crewe carve out a piece of mid-tempo Heaven. Smooth, sultry and totally on the money for today’s changing NS scene. Condition, the deciding factor of it’s inclusion in the auction - is FLAWLESS in original company sleeve, two spotless promo labels and vinyl that reveals no signs of handling whatsoever. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 163.00 Little Joe Cook I'm Falling In Love With You Baby Collectors of the real-deal Northern Soul classics..let’s get serious. What are the chances of capturing this 48 year old Wigan Casino / Cleethorpes Pier floorshaker in absolutely miraculous condition due a lifetime “filed” only existance. in 12014 we have little hope of offering another copy in this staggering state of Mint - / Mint - no DJ ownership. Click the soundfile to be blasted back to the hot summer of 1976. The indelible vision of a steaming sea of synchronized hand-clapping, head-spinning, back-dropping amphetamine fueled dancers, frantically giving this ultimate NS stomper focus it deserved, that is the vivid image, alight in my head from the stage at Cleethorpes Pier 38 years ago. We have not listed this 45 in an age - not witnessed such a clean copy since that unforgettable summer… Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 663.00 Colt 45s Lady, Lady C/w I Know I Love You Hidden on the flipside a seriously smooth mid-tempo vocal group harmony stroller is an instant wake-up call for the Northern Soul dancers is an effervescence horn driven dancer with a unforgettable shrill vocal backing.. Seamlessly rolling along on a wave of horns and razor-cut squealing girl choruses and the echoing lead vocal bangs out the lyrics. SUPERB! Is this one more example of the weight-of-rarity stunting it’s progress to become recognized today as a “Timeless Classic” quality in the grooves would indicate it has everything required to have become so. Today it is a seldom seen Northern Soul snoozer endowed with all tghe qualities to wake up and stir the dancefloor into spontaneous applause… deserves a 2nd lease of life.. As you can see the flipside label was the one “Ben-Lee Publishing” believed in and decorated the primitive label design to catch DJ attention, whilst leave “our” side free of promo graffiti. You can see why it is a beautifully crafted song showcasing all the fine vocals involved in the session. Two great sides - with “Lady” once again displaying qualities far and beyond many of today’s DJ turntable choices.. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 496.00 Sammy Acuna I Never Found A Girl Vocal/instrumental Steve Cropper’s much-loved production of Eddie Floyd’s & Booker T. Jones’s beautifully paced composition is perhaps the most covered of all Stax born songs. A favourite with independent artists and groups because it sparks an instant feelgood experience. UNfortunately most all other efforts fall short of the stand-out original. Not this one… Sammy Acuna is by far my favourite alternative, as he lifts the 1968 recording way into the next decades; on the back of tightly presented horn arrangement decorated with a shimmering Soul-Gal chorus. Just perfect to dance to - and familiar enough to secure the dancefloor impetus even on first hearing… Not to mention has a rather wonderful eye-catching label design also… So what’s not to like ? Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 158.00 Leroy Ace Miller I Really Need Some Lovin Tonight You were a busy man Mr. Miller.. From his base in Macon, “Ace” crafted fine innovative D.I.Y. Soul/Boogie/ Sweet recordings. All his releases were understandably very, very limited presses and are currently catching the attention of the Web-foragers seeking the obscure and overlooked. So check out this colourful release and the gifted Leroy Miller. We lead with an on your knees down beat soul plea, which builds up into something much better than you’d expect for an autonomous production; as “Ace” adds some inspired extras like the hauntingly soaring girl-group interventions, up-changes of intensity in the vocals affixed to a swirling synth. Flip it to find Mr. Miller in dance-mood that will please the “Boogie” fans amongst you - as he belts out 80s dance. Upbeat, potent and relentless Boogie.. He is a guy to check out, as awareness of his work slowly grows… Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 30.00 Z. Z. Hill Make Me Yours C/w What Am I Living For Not too often do you, encounter a British example of a USA Soul release, released as a 45 in the UK, that never got a 45 issue in the USA, in fact not very often at all. If the true circumstances were known, I’m presuming Dave Godin’s passionate public analysis of Bettye Swann’s original 1967 CBS release, caught the attention of someone at B&C Records and they decided it may be a good idea to lift it off the Action 6004 album release. They certainly believed in the song, as it was released as an “A” side. Like many other inspired releases driven by enthusiasm, this 45 again fell on “stoney ground” selling only very meager amounts, but became a much talked about different version, over the following decades. That is until this century when quite a few DJ’s including myself, Nige Brown etc. have added to their DJ boxes. In a club, volume up… Z.Z.’s life-torn vocal is the perfect for the poignant lyrics Bettye wrote as a teenager. A young girl’s yearnings, turned onto their head by the gravelly, nicotine coated, whiskey washed, proper-Soul-man voice. WHAT A TUNE! UK ONLY! and still in my DJ box and I’m betting Mr. Brown’s too.. A tune you can play anywhere, any time - heads will turn, some will peer onto the turntables but nobody will ever leave the floor..that’s fa’sure. Condition is mirror-like… Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 196.00 H. B. Barnum Lonely Drifter (2.47) UNISSUED MOTOWN Acetate No it is not cue-burn on the intro but H. B. Barnum adding convincing seashore & seagull sound affects as he transforms Eddie Levert & Walter Williams 1963 O’Jays Imperial outing, that was also guided by the magnificent hand of H.B. into a 1968 2.47 minute improved remake. Vocally immense with a matching production, just as you’d expect from an H. B. session, as he captures Motown Sound completely. This NS dancer also achieved a shorten but fine 2.27 minute release credited to Gene Diamond on Mothers 1302 released the same year. A unique piece 20 second longer take; and one that will certainly appeal not only to the Motown completer but also to those many of you DJs and collectors seeking the one-offs that these irresistible 60s Motown 10”ers from the vaults offer. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 100.00 Tyree Glenn Jr., & The Fabulous Imperials Yesterday Only 300 ever press back in 1964 of this Tyree Glenn Jr., session. The son of the esteemed Jazz musician Tyree Glenn left college in Ohio and went on a 4 year tour. Which took him and “The Imperials” to New York..where Little Anthony’s backing boys politely told him the change the group name.. Tyree obliged by putting “The Fabulous..” in front and cut this, their only 45 release. His partners on stage, Wayne & Tony Bartlett wrote and sang lead on the respective sides! The earthy deep vocal of Wayne on the A-side purrs like a Big Cat ready to strike, as he stealthily glides through the brass-filled arrangement, bridged by a wild sax-break… A long-standing cult 45 for both the Northern Soul academics and the Belgium “Popcorn” scholars. Very rarely seen for sale.. but only 300 leaving the factory in 1964..frankly I’m amazed we are able to offer this copy.. Which is in flawless condition.. Sorry, this item has already been won! The winning bid was £ 381.00 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Beth Bynum - f*ck me Cheers Richard 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Pete S Posted September 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2014 God do we have to do this every week, it's just tiresome now. I'll just say ZZ Hill. OMG. 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shsdave Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I mentioned it on the Broadways thread & I'll do so again David Coleman, an auction record ? hmm at that price I guess it is but in the real world ...................????????????????? 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I mentioned it on the Broadways thread & I'll do so again David Coleman, an auction record ? hmm at that price I guess it is but in the real world ...................????????????????? There's no such thing as a non-auction record now Dave. Every record, whether it's common or rare, is now an auction record. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I mentioned it on the Broadways thread & I'll do so again David Coleman, an auction record ? hmm at that price I guess it is but in the real world ...................????????????????? Quite incredible Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Vala Reegan was pretty cheap. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Vala Reegan was pretty cheap. It was? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shsdave Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Pete S, on 24 Sept 2014 - 7:54 PM, said: There's no such thing as a non-auction record now Dave. Every record, whether it's common or rare, is now an auction record. Guess you're right Pete, I paid £60 about 10 years ago & thought it was a ton at most nowadays, before this auction what would you have sold it for ? ( & the smiley is a joke as I know you're not led by others with your prices ) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 It was? I`ve alwaysthough £200 upwards but i`ll beg to differ......I won`t go as far as "Like".....just in case. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I`ve alwaysthough £200 upwards but i`ll beg to differ......I won`t go as far as "Like".....just in case. Steve. I will say it for you. I like it and would have said about £150/ £200 Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
paultp Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Maybe Beth Bynum is rarer than I thought, no idea. But £286 for David Coleman ??? I'm fairly sure if you put a want up for a copy at £100 you'd be offered 20 minters inside 30 mins. All this chucking around of money for the sake of it is ruining record collecting IMHO 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Blue and silver issues look nice. Had 2 Howard on issue £120. Top price on both. Common as muck on an demo. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 SammyAcuna was a nice price for the buyer. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Was Little Joe Cook '76.? Thought before. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kegsy Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Blue and silver issues look nice. Had 2 Howard on issue £120. Top price on both. Common as muck on an demo. Scores of issues came off Bradford market back in the day. There must be loads lying about in collections. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Zanetti Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Some Weeks Ago SCREAMIN PLEASE Went For More Than 600ukp´s Of Course It Is Now Very Sought After - But Would Never Bid More Than 110ukp For A EXer Or Minter Is There any Reason Why JM Auctions Are So "High-Valued" For some 45s? Edited September 25, 2014 by Zanetti Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Was Little Joe Cook '76.? Thought before. No mate absolutely '76, biggest sound in the country April 76, booted immediately though 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marktsoulman Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I had two Beth Bynums in last 4-5 years sold both around £150! Mmmmmm! Mark T Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I had two Beth Bynums in last 4-5 years sold both around £150! Mmmmmm! Mark T Got mine around 5 years ago - for 50 quid I think it was. Definitely a hard record in my view though. Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The Eddie Carr is on ebay at $1000 buy it now ,but on People records ....so which is rarer ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hammersoul Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 SammyAcuna was a nice price for the buyer. Good news for the person/s who got outbid,i have a mint spare if they wanna pm me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Good news for the person/s who got outbid,i have a mint spare if they wanna pm me But it's the second pressing if it, which I thought was about a ton Edited September 26, 2014 by John Reed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I said to one of my pals last week that i would expect the "Howard Guyton" to go for about £250, so i wasn't far out. (for a change) some other prices still continue to baffle me though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 But it's the second pressing if it, which I thought was about a ton Really? I didn't know that. I thought both variations went for about £200-£250. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hammersoul Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 But it's the second pressing if it, which I thought was about a ton It is a 2rd `local` press John. i didn`t know at the time when i bought this copy, it also came out on Sly which i found a while back. Re price,never seen a copy for £100 on either . I would have said about £130-150 for this copy and £175 for a Sly copy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulhawk Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Bynum is rare in Detroit - it didn't sell and all the unplayed stock got shipped overseas during the era of the great soul 45 reaping Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 No mate absolutely '76, biggest sound in the country April 76, booted immediately though Great info Pete,i must have the Sherry's on my mind,I thought they were played almost together. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest nickw Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 When you keep seeing those sort of prices every week, it just makes me wonder whether it is time? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Great info Pete,i must have the Sherry's on my mind,I thought they were played almost together. No, Sherrys was the first record ever played at Wigan I think, 1973 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Apparently there's a Sisters Love on Mowest on there now, that's the Sisters Love I sold for £20 or £25 on here last week Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 No, Sherrys was the first record ever played at Wigan I think, 1973 Yes,i know that Pete. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dimples Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) Nobody comment about Tyree Glenn Jr. price? Bit overpriced isn't it? Is it true as auction said only 300 were ever pressed? Edited September 26, 2014 by dimples Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Nobody comment about Tyree Glenn Jr. price? Bit overpriced isn't it? Is it true as auction said only 300 were ever pressed? I raised an eye-brow and scratched my chin at that 300 figure as well. Would be interested to find out how that is known and how it reflects to other Sue releases. I've had the TG release on an orange label stocker, East Coast vinyl WD and a West Coast black/white striped Monarch pressed demo as well (still got this variant). Great record...fabulous vocal. EDITED: added picture of label. Edited September 27, 2014 by Flynny 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dimples Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I raised an eye-brow and scratched my chin at that 300 figure as well. Would be interested to find out how that is known and how it reflects to other Sue releases. I've had the TG release on an orange label stocker, East Coast vinyl WD and a West Coast black/white striped Monarch pressed demo as well (still got this variant). Great record...fabulous vocal. Thanks for your comment. Now there's already a Tyree Glenn Jr. on Sales section Don't you think the B-side "Hold my hand" is fantastic too?. More RnB and perfect for dancing. Just wonder if this could go big with a few spins... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I said to one of my pals last week that i would expect the "Howard Guyton" to go for about £250, so i wasn't far out. (for a change) some other prices still continue to baffle me though. That is easy; on those not too rare but still with a flowing demand to it, to estimate the top bid on JM auctions do like so; If it can be accepted that Howard Guyton in Ex/M should be set at +/- 150 £ on list, then add 50% to 75 % (JM factor) and you have a good chance to be close to the final score. Now to achieve that, some relevant and not so relevant points need to be fed to the bidders like rarer mint stock issue (that is = NOS !!! = multiples most of the time). I never considered this Verve stock issue rarer than the demo. On the contrary, I had to turn down many issues to get a clean promo through the years. The stocker collectors are getting blinded by the need to "upgrade" their collection and the dealers are not losing their touch... Some of those issues are ever since considered rarer and if it's the case for some, it is really not a generality. In this case it's pure infatuation. Just check Popsike or Collectorsfrenzy and you'll see. But there is also/always the exception here to prove the rule; David Coleman is as unexplainable as unexpected to me. I don't see where the logic works, nor how to apply a mathematical recipe to it. Is it another one of those Broadways dementia factor ? I still love to look at JM auctions and their descriptions for the fun, the critical eye, ear and heart but just to see the final result with some jealousy, disgust and better expectation for the future music and record wise. It's a bit like watching, reading or hearing the news... Can't help doing so and i must say it doesn't always bring joy and felicity to the start off the day. Curiosity killed the cat. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pow wow mik Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 https://www.ebay.com/itm/GREAT-DOO-WOP-1ST-PRESS-45-BY-BETH-BYNUM-L-K-LISTEN-/121455340319?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:GB:1653 Yeah, well...meanwhile, back in the real world. What's that, £90? ] Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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