Awesome Richard Searling Spot At Wigan

[Mrtag]

Another of my lost tapes I got back this weekend, this one is so good I might actually do it as a digital download, what a fantastic track listing...imagine all this lot in one spot..

 

this is the week after the 6th anniversary, 29/9/79

 

CAROL ANDERSON - SAD GIRL

ARIN DEMAIN - SILENT TREATMENT

GEORGE KIRBY - WHAT CAN I DO

VICKIE BAINES - COUNTRY GIRL

FLUFFY FALANA - MY LITTLE COTTAGE

LAURA GREENE - CAN'T HELP LOVING THAT MAN

EDDIE DAYE - GUESS WHO LOVES YOU

BILLY HAMBRIC - SHE SAID GOODBYE

COURT DAVIS - TRY TO THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING

BILLY MAMBRIC - I FOUND TRUE LOVE

SUPERBS - I WANNA DO IT WITH YOU

NOMADS - SOMETHIN'S BAD

LARRY CLINTON - SHE'S WANTED

YVONNE VERNEE - JUST LIKE YOU DID ME

MOSES DILLARD - I'LL PAY THE PRICE

AGENTS - TROUBLE

DELITES - LOVER

NABAY - BELIEVE IT OR NOT

FRIENDLY PEOPLE - I AIN'T GOT NOTHING BUT THE BLUES

THE GROUP - I DON'T LIKE TO LOSE

JOHN LEACH - PUT THAT WOMAN DOWN

DEMURES - RAINING TEARDROPS

HERB WARD - STRANGE CHANGE

RONNIE LOVE - CAN WE CHANGE (sorry don't know what this is)

HOLLY ST. JAMES - THAT'S NOT LOVE

NEW WANDERERS - THIS MAN IN LOVE

KENNY GAMBLE - THE JOKE'S ON YOU

TOMMY RIDGELEY - LOVE IS GETTING STRONGER

INSPIRATIONS - NO ONE CAN TAKE YOUR PLACE

TWANS - I CAN'T SEE HIM AGAIN

GENERATION - HOLD ON

AL WILLIAMS - I AM NOTHING

EDDIE HOLMAN - WHERE I'M NOT WANTED

WILBUR WALTON JR - 24 HOURS OF LONELINESS

TONI BASIL - BREAKAWAY

MOSES DILLARD - I'LL PAY THE PRICE

LONNIE RUSS - SAY GIRL

 

 

He sure could Find 'em!!

[Guest DaveSwift]

Ive got to differ from most opinions here. This list reminds me why i became less frequent attendee. There are some good ones but quite a few not to my taste (country girl, thats not love, put that woman down etc). But main problem is half of these records were played week in week out for years. And Richard's sets were generally the best.

[Pete S]

Ive got to differ from most opinions here. This list reminds me why i became less frequent attendee. There are some good ones but quite a few not to my taste (country girl, thats not love, put that woman down etc). But main problem is half of these records were played week in week out for years. And Richard's sets were generally the best.

 

Agree with you about John Leach, terrible record, always was

[Peter99]

Pete S, on 19 Nov 2014 - 4:23 PM, said:

Agree with you about John Leach, terrible record, always was

 

Total and utter shite.

 

[MrsWoodsrules]

Agree with you about John Leach, terrible record, always was

Wasn't it covered as Bob Segar?

Does sound a bit like a white rock record, agree, not very good.

[Guest Noggin]

Can this download to my phone or dies it require a pc?

[MrsWoodsrules]

Ive got to differ from most opinions here. This list reminds me why i became less frequent attendee. There are some good ones but quite a few not to my taste (country girl, thats not love, put that woman down etc). But main problem is half of these records were played week in week out for years. And Richard's sets were generally the best.

Respect your opinion Dave, but kind of disagree cos even if he played half of the same ones every week, where else were you going to hear the likes Gone With The Wind/I don't Like To lose/She's Wanted? You couldn't buy em, no one even knew what most of em were, so that was the only time you were going to hear it back then, in the Casino, on the night.

Sometimes I heard him play (Joe Mathews c/u I Don't Like To Lose) three times on the same night, believe me, no one cared as the floor was always jam packed for it.

Edited November 19, 2014 by MrsWoodsrules

[Pete S]

Can this download to my phone or dies it require a pc?

 

That is a very good question.  I'll find out of my web genius.

[Petebangor]

Wasn't it covered as Bob Segar?

Does sound a bit like a white rock record, agree, not very good.

 

I think it was JC Messina that was covered as Bob Segar Band.  Coincidentally, I've posted in Wigan forgotten monsters thread and mentioned JC

[Wiganer1]

 

Total and utter shite.

 

still expensive...

[Peter99]

petebangor, on 19 Nov 2014 - 5:20 PM, said:

I think it was JC Messina that was covered as Bob Segar Band.  Coincidentally, I've posted in Wigan forgotten monsters thread and mentioned JC

 

[Peter99]

still expensive...

Maybe so Mark. Still shite.

 

[MrsWoodsrules]

I think it was JC Messina that was covered as Bob Segar Band. Coincidentally, I've posted in Wigan forgotten monsters thread and mentioned JC

Ahh,.... Time Won't Let Me, getting mixed up there, Cheers Pete.

[Agentsmith]

Respect your opinion Dave, but kind of disagree cos even if he played half of the same ones every week, where else were you going to hear the likes Gone With The Wind/I don't Like To lose/She's Wanted? You couldn't buy em, no one even knew what most of em were, so that was the only time you were going to hear it back then, in the Casino, on the night.

Sometimes I heard him play (Joe Mathews c/u I Don't Like To Lose) three times on the same night, believe me, no one cared as the floor was always jam packed for it.

right about joe matthew.....i remember hearing it more than once in a night, played by richard of course!,...now it's conceivable you can hear it at least that many times at a lot of venues courtesy of a good few dj's...and it still packs the floor.

[Agentsmith]

right!...so as there is absolutely NO DOUBT about this, i have it straight from the horses mouth, so to speak. "i don't like to lose" was discovered by john anderson, after which, richard immediately covered it up...this was 1978.....

[Louise]

right!...so as there is absolutely NO DOUBT about this, i have it straight from the horses mouth, so to speak. "i don't like to lose" was discovered by john anderson, after which, richard immediately covered it up...this was 1978.....

 

OMG you must be the only person in the civilized world that didn't know that, it's been used as a question on 'The Chase' quiz show at least twice now

P.S Didn't know that you'd taken up 'Horse Whispering' Rob !

Dave

[Agentsmith]

OMG you must be the only person in the civilized world that didn't know that, it's been used as a question on 'The Chase' quiz show at least twice now

P.S Didn't know that you'd taken up 'Horse Whispering' Rob !

Dave

more like "only fools and horses" dave!

[Garethx]

Here's RS's spot from the corresponding allnighter a year earlier: the week after the fifth anniversary 1978.

 

Betty Boo ‘Say It Isn’t So’ 

Lou Roberts ‘You Fooled Me’ 

Vicki Baines ‘Country Girl’ 

Cobblestone ‘Trick Me Treat Me’

Paula Durante ‘If He Were Mine’

Benny Sigler ‘Who You Gonna Turn To’

Yvonne Vernee ‘Just Like You Did Me’

The Construction ‘Hey Little Way Out Girl’

Rita & The Tiaras ‘Gone With The Wind’ (first time out?)

Jimmy Burns ‘I Really Love You’

Gerri Thomas ‘Look What I’ve Got’

J.C.Messina ‘Time Wont Let Me’

Paul Anka ‘When We Get There’

The Twans ‘I Can’t See Him Again’

Wakefield Sun ‘Trypt On Love’

The Dogs ‘Soul Step’

Reperata & The Delrons ‘It’s Waiting There For You’

The Newbeats ‘Don’t Turn Me Loose’

Toni Basil ‘Breakaway’

Holly St James ‘Thats Not Love’

Frankie Beverly & The Butlers ‘Because Of My Heart’

Bobby Paris ‘I Walked Away’

Lou Roberts ‘You Fooled Me’ (again)

Tamala Lewis ‘You Won’t Say Nothing’ 

The Generation ‘Hold On’

Ben Zine ‘Village Of Tears’

Family Affair ‘Love Hustle’ 

The Millionaires ‘You’ve Got To Love Your Baby’ 

The Wall Of Sound ‘Hang On’

Peggy March ‘If You Love Me’

The Construction ‘Hey Little Way Out Girl’ (again) 

Paula Durante ‘If He Were Mine’ (again)

[jocko]

Wasn't it covered as Bob Segar?

Does sound a bit like a white rock record, agree, not very good.

 

Wasn't Bob Seger the JC Messina Time Won't Let Me, that sounded like Bob Seger singing off chord, it disappeared just as I started due to being bootlegged. I only remember that as guy in my class bought it, he was buying big records while at school, for £35 I think, and it was booted within a week. 

[jocko]

I think it was JC Messina that was covered as Bob Segar Band.  Coincidentally, I've posted in Wigan forgotten monsters thread and mentioned JC

 

Oops, beaten to it. Teach me to start from the top for a change :-)

[jocko]

Wasn't it covered as Bob Segar?

Does sound a bit like a white rock record, agree, not very good.

 

One of those that sounded great at the time, though, and still brings a smile. 

 

I think this may have been my first Wigan, having supposed to debut at the 6th anniversary but missing the coach, another lifetime habit beginning in 1979, and like Aid, still think they are unbeatable records. I didn't start going regularly for a good few months after this, and by then the music was even better from old tricky. 

[Petebangor]

One of those that sounded great at the time, though, and still brings a smile. 

 

I think this may have been my first Wigan, having supposed to debut at the 6th anniversary but missing the coach, another lifetime habit beginning in 1979, and like Aid, still think they are unbeatable records. I didn't start going regularly for a good few months after this, and by then the music was even better from old tricky. 

 

 

I think it was late 79, when there was a shift from all 60's newies in Tricky's sets.  He started playing new releases along side the 60's.

 

Weren't Phyllis Hyman, Omni, Larry Houston, Daybreak the first of the 70's tunes that went massive?

 

Ive got tapes somewhere of Searlings spots from very late Wigan,  stuff like William Powell, Combinations and the first time he played The Exportations covered as The Quickest way out.  He announced it as the best thing he'd ever played.  How many times did we hear him say that?  Gary Rushbrooke was on after him, he had some great tunes too,  I'm sure he had William Powell as well, Sherlock Holmes and 'The two of us' was that by The ones or The Others, something like that.

For me, that was the pinnacle for the music.

Edited November 20, 2014 by petebangor

[Pete S]

I think it was late 79, when there was a shift from all 60's newies in Tricky's sets.  He started playing new releases along side the 60's.

 

Weren't Phyllis Hyman, Omni, Larry Houston, Daybreak the first of the 70's tunes that went massive?

 

Ive got tapes somewhere of Searlings spots from very late Wigan,  stuff like William Powell, Combinations and the first time he played The Exportations covered as The Quickest way out.  He announced it as the best thing he'd ever played.  How many times did we hear him say that?  Gary Rushbrooke was on after him, he had some great tunes too,  I'm sure he had William Powell as well, Sherlock Holmes and 'The two of us' was that by The ones or The Others, something like that.

For me, that was the pinnacle for the music.

 

I've got a tape recorded two years after this, just before the Casino closed and I was going to put it up but it is unlistenable, after 90 minutes I think there had been 3 sixties tracks, the rest was modern crap, and he was so bored he couldn't even be bothered to introduce anything on the mic - one of the worst spots I've ever heard unfortunately.  

[jocko]

I've got a tape recorded two years after this, just before the Casino closed and I was going to put it up but it is unlistenable, after 90 minutes I think there had been 3 sixties tracks, the rest was modern crap, and he was so bored he couldn't even be bothered to introduce anything on the mic - one of the worst spots I've ever heard unfortunately.  

 

Oh get away and have your morning cuppa Petra, he wasn't bored afterwards telling us all about this stuff we could just go out and buy, and his small but perfectly formed posse of new apostles, youthful fervour demanding new sounds, danced on, knowing all the sounds so didn't need announcing!

 

Thats one view, the other was he was a grumpy git towards the end, and not happy with the management, wanting to do his own thing. But to fair he would still enthuse about the music after his set, although you had to catch him quick as not sure he was there very long in these days other than his set.

 

I was young and enthusiastic, it was my first couple of years, so lots of us lapped it up, despite the mix of decades, we only knew that. Just as well you don't have any of Sam's last couple, She Devil etc, you would be throwing your tape player out the window.

 

If you ever need the one above track listed, happy to help!

[Pete S]

Oh get away and have your morning cuppa Petra, he wasn't bored afterwards telling us all about this stuff we could just go out and buy, and his small but perfectly formed posse of new apostles, youthful fervour demanding new sounds, danced on, knowing all the sounds so didn't need announcing!

 

Thats one view, the other was he was a grumpy git towards the end, and not happy with the management, wanting to do his own thing. But to fair he would still enthuse about the music after his set, although you had to catch him quick as not sure he was there very long in these days other than his set.

 

I was young and enthusiastic, it was my first couple of years, so lots of us lapped it up, despite the mix of decades, we only knew that. Just as well you don't have any of Sam's last couple, She Devil etc, you would be throwing your tape player out the window.

 

If you ever need the one above track listed, happy to help!

 

I'll tell you what, I'll record the lot for you and send it to you by WeSend and you can download it and listen yourself, you wouldn't recognise it as a Northern Soul DJ spot!

[jocko]

I think it was late 79, when there was a shift from all 60's newies in Tricky's sets.  He started playing new releases along side the 60's.

 

Weren't Phyllis Hyman, Omni, Larry Houston, Daybreak the first of the 70's tunes that went massive?

 

Ive got tapes somewhere of Searlings spots from very late Wigan,  stuff like William Powell, Combinations and the first time he played The Exportations covered as The Quickest way out.  He announced it as the best thing he'd ever played.  How many times did we hear him say that?  Gary Rushbrooke was on after him, he had some great tunes too,  I'm sure he had William Powell as well, Sherlock Holmes and 'The two of us' was that by The ones or The Others, something like that.

For me, that was the pinnacle for the music.

 

I didn't start going regular till March 80, so it was definitely on the change by then. You know I don't really remember Phylis Hyman at Wigan, or more I have it attached to Rotherham, but lots of mates do remember, so obviously just one of those quirks of my mind.

 

Definitely Omni, as that seemed to appeal to the 60's only guys as well, who lots of the Edinburgh bus were, on the rare occasions that a bus went Saturday. Larry Houston, Cheryl Berdell, Bobby Thurston and Garry Glenn, I though were fairly regular from early days of going, Daybreak a bit later as the guy I travelled with bought Searlings only spare for £50 one night in 81 I thought (to find at least another 3 people also saying they had bought his one spare) then Bobby King.

 

I was a massive fan of Rushbrooke, right through to Rotherham, he played lots of Carolina type sounds, although wouldn't have known that then, and I lapped them up then. But also various Magnetics, Ascots (two tiles) Creations Just Remember Me. I think it was The Other Ones, and a good example of almost blue eyed sound he favoured.

 

Brady could also do the business and was playing some decent Modern stuff (no comments Peter S) at that time.

 

I was young and just lapped it all up. But looking back, the quality is unquestionable.

[jocko]

I'll tell you what, I'll record the lot for you and send it to you by WeSend and you can download it and listen yourself, you wouldn't recognise it as a Northern Soul DJ spot!

 

I am only teasing you,Tyrannosaurus, it was all we knew, but to be fair towards the end he was playing some just brand new releases, and some real left field stuff, Alphonse Mouzon, being one. I did like it all and still do. Whether I would want to, or be happy hearing it a Northern do now is, hypocritically on my part, another thing.

 

He was obviously unhappy in his last few spots, pretty sure he stormed out after one, although I was oblivous to it all so could have been swimming baths gossip!

[Wiganer1]

great example the mix of casino sounds from 73 - 81 just love all of it,,regardless of who supplied the djs

 

someone has to break them...

[Pete S]

I am only teasing you,Tyrannosaurus, it was all we knew, but to be fair towards the end he was playing some just brand new releases, and some real left field stuff, Alphonse Mouzon, being one. I did like it all and still do. Whether I would want to, or be happy hearing it a Northern do now is, hypocritically on my part, another thing.

 

He was obviously unhappy in his last few spots, pretty sure he stormed out after one, although I was oblivous to it all so could have been swimming baths gossip!

 

No but I was listening to it and it was kind of like soul destroying, to think what it used to be like and it had come to this - you really need to hear it to know what I'm talking about - lots of them seemed like endless 12" versions as well and I'm thinking, if I'd have been there I would have made a vow never to go again.  Fortunately, it closed down the following month.  There's two C90's, maybe the second one improves, I never got past side 1 of the first one.

[Lucky One]

Richard at his best, one of scenes best DJ`S without doubt. I attended the Blackpool weekender recently and went into the Saturday afternoon

session in the tower ballroom to listen to Richards spot. The first time I had listened to one of his spots for many years, although he played

oldies they were the sort you seldom hear anymore. The way it should be done. In my opinion the best spot of the weekend by far, just the same

at wigan when he always played the best spot nothing has changed.

[Mark R]

I've got a tape recorded two years after this, just before the Casino closed and I was going to put it up but it is unlistenable, after 90 minutes I think there had been 3 sixties tracks, the rest was modern crap, and he was so bored he couldn't even be bothered to introduce anything on the mic - one of the worst spots I've ever heard unfortunately.  

Shame Pete, some of us would love to hear that, but I don't expect you to go out of your way digitising something you don't like just to please others!  You already go beyond the call in that respect.

 

But you never know, you might have a change of heart one day! LOL

 

And I take it you mean unlistenable in terms of the modern tunes, and not the sound quality?

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

[jocko]

No but I was listening to it and it was kind of like soul destroying, to think what it used to be like and it had come to this - you really need to hear it to know what I'm talking about - lots of them seemed like endless 12" versions as well and I'm thinking, if I'd have been there I would have made a vow never to go again.  Fortunately, it closed down the following month.  There's two C90's, maybe the second one improves, I never got past side 1 of the first one.

 

That sounds like one of his last couple of spots, which pretty sure included the AM track I mentioned. If you can be bothered digitalising, and its not hassly happy to listen and track list. You can put it on the fridge and make it play everytime you go for a mid week beer

[Petebangor]

That sounds like one of his last couple of spots, which pretty sure included the AM track I mentioned. If you can be bothered digitalising, and its not hassly happy to listen and track list. You can put it on the fridge and make it play everytime you go for a mid week beer

 

Yeah, come on Pete, get it up for us modern boys

[Mark R]

Yeah, come on Pete, get it up for us modern boys

 

Yeah.....gwaaan!

 

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

[Guest]

We all enjoyed Richard's sets towards the end of the Casino...but...what would his set have been like without the support of John Anderson

Look at Richard's sets from but a couple of years earlier...nothing as earth shattering as the latter period?

Nice bloke yes, consummate DJ for sure...but the Soul Bowl influence was also a key piece of the jigsaw.

[Mark R]

We all enjoyed Richard's sets towards the end of the Casino...but...what would his set have been like without the support of John Anderson

Look at Richard's sets from but a couple of years earlier...nothing as earth shattering as the latter period?

Nice bloke yes, consummate DJ for sure...but the Soul Bowl influence was also a key piece of the jigsaw.

 

Something I was going to mention the other day when this subject was brought up, but as you've raised it again...........

 

The same can be said for when Richard did his JazzFM shows playing new releases in the 90's & early 2k.............a good many of the tunes came from the ear of Dean at Expansion in Manchester (think TOP "It Really Doesn't Matter" etc), so there are always people behind the scenes deserving of credit.

 

This is true for many, so I'm not singling out Richard, but this is all relevant to him so it fits here.

 

Of course, you've then got to be able to take them forward as the DJ and make them work within a whole set, particularly in a club, so it's not the end of the story when the DJ is told "hey, have a listen to this......it's a killer!"

 

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

[Pete S]

OK I'll do it, but someone will have to go through it and do the track listing though.

[jocko]

OK I'll do it, but someone will have to go through it and do the track listing though.

 

I'll do that and enlist help as needed.

[Mark R]

OK I'll do it, but someone will have to go through it and do the track listing though.

 

Are you going to listen as you record Pete? ;-)

 

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

[Mark R]

Any late Wigan Soul Sam ones?

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

[tosspot]

 

Total and utter shite.

 

I like it, think i'll get it out & give it a spin & have happy memories from the 1st time I heard it

[Pete S]

Any late Wigan Soul Sam ones?

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

 

You never know, this might be one, I'm 3 tracks in and it sounds like the same record all the way through, and no one has spoken yet, I'm telling you Mark, this is making my ears bleed, the things I have to go through for you lot.  And there's 3 hours of it!

[Pete S]

Are you going to listen as you record Pete? ;-)

 

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

 

See above comment!

[Pete S]

Woo-hoo! I just recognised a track!  Main Change - Sunshine Is Her Way.  Oh dear.

[Ian Parker]

i have a confession:

 

  i like the john leach record.    it has pedigree,   norman johnson penned it !

 

   even if it does have a melody like 'pistol packin momma'   

[Jordirip]

Definitely Omni, as that seemed to appeal to the 60's only guys as well, who lots of the Edinburgh bus were, on the rare occasions that a bus went Saturday. Larry Houston, Cheryl Berdell, Bobby Thurston and Garry Glenn, I though were fairly regular from early days of going, Daybreak a bit later as the guy I travelled with bought Searlings only spare for £50 one night in 81 I thought (to find at least another 3 people also saying they had bought his one spare) then Bobby King.

 

 

Kenni Burke's 'Let Somebody love You' was a big current release tune at this time as well.

[Mark R]

Kenni Burke's 'Let Somebody love You' was a big current release tune at this time as well.

 

Hi Jordi,

 

I'm sure I saw a Searling set list in Echoes back in the day titled "Richard Searling's Random Dancefloor" or something like that..............it was either one of these late Wigan ones or Morecambe Pier shortly after.  Titled that way to reflect the mixed nature of the set I guess........

 

Isn't there a playlist of his last set at the Casino with Kenny Burke et al in it?

 

If only the music would have just carried on morphing as time progressed............there wouldn't be half the in-fighting and circus nostalgia acts........

 

 

Cheers,

Mark

[Pete S]

Hi Jordi,

 

I'm sure I saw a Searling set list in Echoes back in the day titled "Richard Searling's Random Dancefloor" or something like that..............it was either one of these late Wigan ones or Morecambe Pier shortly after.  Titled that way to reflect the mixed nature of the set I guess........

 

Isn't there a playlist of his last set at the Casino with Kenny Burke et al in it?

 

If only the music would have just carried on morphing as time progressed............there wouldn't be half the in-fighting and circus nostalgia acts........

 

 

Cheers,

Mark

 

But this is what we are always going to disagree on - it didn't need to change, it was fine as it was - I really hate hearing all these contemporary records mixed in with 60's Northern.  Enough people left the scene as it was, I did that journey to Wigan over 100 times but I'd have stopped altogether had I been there this particular night.  It had gone too far already.  And don't forget, you are no longer allowed to argue with me because of the Ric Tic tape LOL

[Pete S]

OK nearly done 1st tape, I have so far got 14 unknown disco tracks plus Johnny Honeycutt, Vivian Caroll, The Q, William Powell, John & Weirdest, Little Ann, The Group, Combinations, Damon Fox, Court Davis...now Richard has gone off and Keith Minshull is djing, starting with Mr Soul and kenny Carlton.

[jocko]

Kenni Burke's 'Let Somebody love You' was a big current release tune at this time as well.

 

Pretty sure that was near end, it carried on to Rotherham but definitely played on a Saturday.