Tailormade Gaz B Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Just to satisfy my curiosity - how many of these are there? I know its hard, I know it goes for BIG bucks, I saw the one that went for auction this year/last...but what we talking, and is there an exact number - can they be traced like other records where you know XYZ has one. good luck Dennis, you keep plugging away mate. Edited November 19, 2014 by modernsoulsucks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Xyz......isn't it a ZTSP. You live and learn. Then again it looks more like ARP. Edited November 19, 2014 by Prophonics 2029 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul Jnr Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I've heard that there are 7 know original copies but good point Gaz mate, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest chorleybloke Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 There's 1 in Australia (sadly, not mine) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Ted Massey Posted November 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2014 I've heard that there are 7 know original copies but good point Gaz mate, a lot more than that there's at least 5 among the Kings Hall dj's 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter Richer Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 a lot more than that there's at least 5 among the Kings Hall dj's ... and at least 2 more in the north-east, plus the £8k auction copy that went to Japan. Probably far too many (in excess of 20?) to be able to pin-point. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 ... plus the £8k auction copy that went to Japan. 3 here in Japan that I know of...possibly more. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Agree with others, a fair few more than many would think 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim G Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 there is probably more than is thought, some collectors just collect and never go near northern events, quite a few spread over the world with DJ's. My guess is there is probably in excess of 50 in the hands of people who its value, plus a few scattered around yet to be found. All speculation of course. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tailormade Gaz B Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 3 here in Japan that I know of...possibly more. Are these ex-pats Flynny, or Japanese collectors? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 a lot more than that there's at least 5 among the Kings Hall dj'sBang on Ted, ive had two over the years, and they were around at one time, not in massive numbers agreed, but were in sales boxes in record bars. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tailormade Gaz B Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 All very interesting, had I not asked, I'd have thought there was only about 10-15 copies... so the appeal is in having what some call the 'ultimate' soul record, which of course is the general, but not universal sentiment. Funny isn't it, because I heard it so many times on CD when I was younger - before going out/buying records - that i'm not that bothered by it. I also know it might be because I never had that collective experience shared with others on the dance floor of hearing it for the very first time - wondering what it was, how to get it etc...bloody CD's! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raym Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Mr Fortnum's copy on a turntable at 'Caliente' 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Md Records Posted November 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2014 I remember John Anderson telling me he had a box of either 25 or 50 in the early 1970's Des 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Are these ex-pats Flynny, or Japanese collectors? Natives...Soul collectors, but certainly not Northern collectors. I almost got one a couple of months ago, but just got beat to it! I also recall almost buying Ady Pierce's copy from him when he sold up his personal Detroit collection...got outbid at £800...which was OTT at the time (mid 8T's?)...and ironically it ended up in Japan! Edited November 19, 2014 by Flynny 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Natives...Soul collectors, but certainly not Northern collectors. I almost got one a couple of months ago, but just got beat to it! I also recall almost buying Ady Pierce's copy from him when he sold up his personal Detroit collection...got outbid at £800...which was OTT at the time (mid 8T's?)...and ironically iy ended up in Japan! Thats Naughty!! Dave Kinda like rubbing your nose in it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Thats Naughty!! Dave Kinda like rubbing your nose in it It's not a problem mate, or so the therapy sessions keep telling me! Must admit I initially didn't appreciate just how good the track is, and indeed it was one of the tracks I would hop over when playing the Grapevine LP! Nowadays I can hardly believe I used to do that...it is prime NS. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 And just think of those deep collectors in Mr Flynns adopted land that were buying it for other side! Adds another couple of dozen, at least, Somebody better sell it to Mr Dennison cheap, before the price plummets when the owners read this and think....... Even though I think the other side is a perfect dancer, and not deep! And almost as good, but doesn't have the spitting fervour that the top side has. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 the spitting fervour Wonderfully original description...chuck in words like, "snarling" and "macho", and maybe we're on our way to the perfect description! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 John Anderson had FIFTY copies, all found unsleeved. They were sold for £1 each via Soul Bowl because they weren't considered to be in good enough condition. John actually gave a copy to Dickie Watts for nothing, this was one that fetched £6000. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tailormade Gaz B Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 John Anderson had FIFTY copies, all found unsleeved. They were sold for £1 each via Soul Bowl because they weren't considered to be in good enough condition. John actually gave a copy to Dickie Watts for nothing, this was one that fetched £6000. Potentially 300,000 worth given away for £1 or less! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MrsWoodsrules Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 John Anderson had FIFTY copies, all found unsleeved. They were sold for £1 each via Soul Bowl because they weren't considered to be in good enough condition. John actually gave a copy to Dickie Watts for nothing, this was one that fetched £6000. Jesus... what year was this Pete? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Jesus... what year was this Pete? I'll ask him... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Early to mid 70's 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Wasn`t the Billy Sha-rae version played out 1st?..............it`s the one I remember hearing around 71-72 ish and bought from a certain "Barrow-Boy" at that time. This is mine! Edited November 19, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Natives...Soul collectors, but certainly not Northern collectors. I almost got one a couple of months ago, but just got beat to it!I also recall almost buying Ady Pierce's copy from him when he sold up his personal Detroit collection...got outbid at £800...which was OTT at the time (mid 8T's?)...and ironically it ended up in Japan! That copy came from Stuart Bennett who had to sell it to get out of some financial problems he was having at the time. He's never got over it, even to this day. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Natives...Soul collectors, but certainly not Northern collectors. I almost got one a couple of months ago, but just got beat to it! I also recall almost buying Ady Pierce's copy from him when he sold up his personal Detroit collection...got outbid at £800...which was OTT at the time (mid 8T's?)...and ironically it ended up in Japan! Adey told me he bought that out of Kopples collection thru Tim Brown, Adey told me he paid a 1000 for it took it out of the package played it half the way thru put it on the shelves before it was finished, thats when he realised collecting was a mugs game and sold up not long after Edited November 19, 2014 by Ted Massey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Quinvy Posted November 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2014 It's not a problem mate, or so the therapy sessions keep telling me! Must admit I initially didn't appreciate just how good the track is, and indeed it was one of the tracks I would hop over when playing the Grapevine LP! Nowadays I can hardly believe I used to do that...it is prime NS. It was big after I sold up, so the first time I heard it was on a CD compilation. I didn't like it and couldn't understand what the fuss was all about. The same goes for Damon Fox, De-lites, Executive Four and other biggies. However, once I had heard them played out and danced to them, I knew exactly what the fuss was about. Awesome! This only goes to prove the point that this is dance music, not for listening to at home. 7 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 ........I also recall almost buying Ady Pierce's copy from him when he sold up his personal Detroit collection...got outbid at £800...which was OTT at the time (mid 8T's?)...and ironically it ended up in Japan! Was that when he auctioned them via paper list, all done in alphabetical order Dave ? We had to bid with the top price we would pay & no follow up bid topping ? He had some nice records, I ended up with a mint Nabay, Duke Browner demo, etc. I can remember sitting looking at his latest list thinking what's going to be on the next one as I turned to my mate & asked him what comes after the letter 'P' ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Md Records Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 What's the female thing on Awake, saw one a couple of weeks ago in the U.S. same green label, slightly Funky, the guy wanted big amounts of cash for it though? Des Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Wonderfully original description...chuck in words like, "snarling" and "macho", and maybe we're on our way to the perfect description! Aggro Soul. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dobber Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 i know of 2 other copies not mention in this lot. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Jumpinjoan Posted November 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2014 How many copies? Nowhere near enough 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dennisoul Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 And just think of those deep collectors in Mr Flynns adopted land that were buying it for other side! Adds another couple of dozen, at least, Somebody better sell it to Mr Dennison cheap, before the price plummets when the owners read this and think....... Even though I think the other side is a perfect dancer, and not deep! And almost as good, but doesn't have the spitting fervour that the top side has. Thank you Jock, your help is greatly appreciated to nail down this juggernaught of a 45.....might as well mention it here too that I'm doing a Tony Middleton "too the ends......" for a copy of this....any kind soul that would like to part with it please message, text, email, pidgeon carrier, message in a bottle,fax, telegraph, ticket tape or any other means please do contact me, as you can prob tell I'm interested in a copy :-) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dennisoul Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 How many copies? Nowhere near enough Exactly Joan 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sammy Seaman Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 theres also a version by ELDRIDGE GRAVY heard there was only 50 pressed! its not that bad my mate just got a copy from the states Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 What's the female thing on Awake, saw one a couple of weeks ago in the U.S. same green label, slightly Funky, the guy wanted big amounts of cash for it though? Des I only know of Shane hunter-try my love -Awake 501 Des. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 theres also a version by ELDRIDGE GRAVY heard there was only 50 pressed! its not that bad my mate just got a copy from the states Recent recording though. GIven away at a soul weekender I think Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sammy Seaman Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 anybody have any info about this version other than what pete said ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 anybody have any info about this version other than what pete said ? I had one the other day Sammy, I don't know what I did with it, it was in a picture sleeve and was definitely from a USA soul weekender, it was a remake though I'm sure. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sammy Seaman Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 i`ve seen my mates but cant remember what label it was on would not mind a copy if you can find it, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I only know of Shane hunter-try my love -Awake 501 Des. The flip is 'Sweet things,every now and then",which is also, Shaine - "Call me sweet things" on Sue.I think. Sleepy King on Awake is a bloke. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Md Records Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Definately NOT Sleepy King or Shane Hunter, female singer, same label design as Eddie Parker. I'll try and contact the seller and get a bit more info Des 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The flip is 'Sweet things,every now and then",which is also, Shaine - "Call me sweet things" on Sue.I think. Sleepy King on Awake is a bloke. Isn`t the sleepy king on the New York Awake Kev?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 So, now we know then. This is a really common record and there are hundreds of copies out there, but tucked away safely in top collections. Back in the day not even fit for Soul Packs, a mere give-away item. Funny there's rarely a copy available for sale yet it's on so many Wants Lists. And to think, 'Love You Baby ' was once The Eddie Parker record to chase after... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Isn`t the sleepy king on the New York Awake Kev?? It's definitely a different label Harry, yep. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 So, now we know then. This is a really common record and there are hundreds of copies out there, but tucked away safely in top collections. Back in the day not even fit for Soul Packs, a mere give-away item. Funny there's rarely a copy available for sale yet it's on so many Wants Lists. And to think, 'Love You Baby ' was once The Eddie Parker record to chase after... Fifty copies scattered around over 40 years would be very hard to track down... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Moss Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Got two mint copies from Jack Ashford in early 90s. Ginger had one. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Isn`t the sleepy king on the New York Awake Kev?? Yes it is.Sorry i'm off on a tangent about the female tune. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Wasn`t the Billy Sha-rae version played out 1st?..............it`s the one I remember hearing around 71-72 ish and bought from a certain "Barrow-Boy" at that time. This is mine! gone!1.jpg Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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