Peter99 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The Golden 101, on 09 Dec 2014 - 4:56 PM, said: And here's the best bit of all.........Chris was still being offered the venue even TODAY! Why don't you just let it drop? You keep saying that the decent thing has been done tra, la, la, la, la - but then keep picking at it like a scab. I think you've also mistakenly hit the Caps Lock key. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post jocko Posted December 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Further proof that, despite what people say about too many venues, the cream curdles and goes off and the shit floats to the top. Thank f**k I am into gin spotting these days, much more fun and you meet a nicer breed of social rejects. Edited December 9, 2014 by jocko 10 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Why don't you just let it drop? You keep saying that the decent thing has been done tra, la, la, la, la - but then keep picking at it like a scab. I think you've also mistakenly hit the Caps Lock key. Why not indeed....let it drop. Topic starter over to you...... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If I was Jez I would be having a face to face chat with the owner and be seeking some honest answers. Maybe the owner wants more than one nighter running for the revenue it makes bit then again maybe not. Sad though whatever the outcome. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Rimmer Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Interesting that there are some venues that run different nights, by different promoters, quite successfully, at the same venue. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post KevH Posted December 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2014 Here's me thinking we were all one big happy family. 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Further proof that, despite what people say about too many venues, the cream curdles and goes off and the shit floats to the top. Thank f**k I am into gin spotting these days, much more fun and you meet a nicer breed of social rejects. Sounds great, only one problem, I'm not a fan of Gin. Can I sit in the corner and be a social reject with a nice drop of Rum instead? 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
hullsoul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Sounds great, only one problem, I'm not a fan of Gin. Can I sit in the corner and be a social reject with a nice drop of Rum instead? Can I join in,don't like Gin or Rum but love been a social reject Cheers Martyn 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie8 Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) As I understand he's doing 4 a year at the Floral Hall Tunstall. As for date clashing I cannot see how he is clashing with anyone. He's doing an authentic Torch theme and as the former owner, he has every right to. And judging by his first one which sold out a few weeks ago and isn't on until Jan 24th, I would say fans have bought into the promotion.Good Luck to him on his ventures and I do hope sincerely they are a success for the benefit of the scene.But can you then explain to me as to why he has he organised a "Torch|" event that clashes presumably unintentionally with The Class of 72 event in October Of all the dates available in 2015 to arrange it,curiously it happens to be exactly same day!! Surely this is detrimental and surely a little common sense should prevail yet again. Or is there some other sinister reason. An honest answer from the promoter would welcomed, then everyone will be happy and we can lay this debate to rest. Edited December 9, 2014 by soulie8 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Good Luck to him on his ventures and I do hope sincerely they are a success for the benefit of the scene.But can you then explain to me as to why he has he organised a "Torch|" event that clashes presumably unintentionally with The Class of 72 event in October Of all the dates available in 2015 to arrange it,curiously it happens to be exactly same day!! Surely this is detrimental and surely a little common sense should prevail yet again. Or is there some other sinister reason. An honest answer from the promoter would welcomed, then everyone will be happy and we can lay this debate to rest.[/quote The Golden Torch brand is Chris Burton. . He is launching the Torch in Tunstall and was given 4 dates. One apparently clashes with Jez Jones' outfit. Although why is that a clash? The Torch is run by CB not JJ. Edited December 9, 2014 by The Golden 101 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) [quote name=" Edited December 9, 2014 by The Golden 101 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie8 Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Class of 72 is not Golden Torch brand as you are fully aware, but surely he could have avoided that particular date. Obviously there seems to be no love lost in this episode. So much for the love of Northern Soul!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Nige Brown Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) off the top of my head Brian Rae, Paul Shirley, Casper, Ted Massey, Nige Brown, Sean Chapman, Little Scotty, Rob Smith. Totally WRONG and out of order! Sean Chapman and My Self have NEVER been ANYTHING to Do with this Box Fiasco We are BOTH DJing at OTHER Venues on the dates quoted and where NEVER part of the line up Capiche!! I want to make this VERY CLEAR Thanks for reading this Nige Brown Edited December 9, 2014 by Nige Brown Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andyg Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Sorry Nige I thought you had DJ'd at the Box, I must have been mistaken. Silly me 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) off the top of my head Brian Rae, Paul Shirley, Casper, Ted Massey, Nige Brown, Sean Chapman, Little Scotty, Rob Smith. Totally WRONG and out of order! Sean Chapman and My Self have NEVER been ANYTHING to Do with this Box Fiasco We are BOTH DJing at OTHER Venues on the dates quoted and where NEVER part of the line up Capiche!! I want to make this VERY CLEAR Thanks for reading this Nige Brown if you read the post again you can see your name was mentioned in reply to a question about the djs who have dj'd at the venue before link to the post below cheers mike Edited December 9, 2014 by mike 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mellorful Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Why don't you just let it drop? You keep saying that the decent thing has been done tra, la, la, la, la - but then keep picking at it like a scab. I think you've also mistakenly hit the Caps Lock key. Had you considered that given the various comments directed to both Chris and Kev which called into question their integrity, they are deserving of an apology, those public apologies appear slow in coming. I read the thread and summerised my conclusion that the venue manager wants a new face for an event and approached Chris; Chris consulted Kev who advised stay away. Chris has declined the venue owners invitation. The owner has made a further attempt to persuade Chris; Kev kindly gave you a heads up that the venue manager hadn't given up and whilst not stated the potential for others to be approached by the venue manager. I hope those previously critical of Chris and Kev in this thread will now have the decency to post an apology or privately PM them with the apology. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Nige Brown Posted December 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2014 Read the post again,,, Apologies i DID Miss Read it!! Yes we have DJd there a few times Il get back in me box Nige B 9 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Had you considered that given the various comments directed to both Chris and Kev which called into question their integrity, they are deserving of an apology, those public apologies appear slow in coming. I read the thread and summerised my conclusion that the venue manager wants a new face for an event and approached Chris; Chris consulted Kev who advised stay away. Chris has declined the venue owners invitation. The owner has made a further attempt to persuade Chris; Kev kindly gave you a heads up that the venue manager hadn't given up and whilst not stated the potential for others to be approached by the venue manager. I hope those previously critical of Chris and Kev in this thread will now have the decency to post an apology or privately PM them with the apology. No and no. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 No and no. Lovely comment from a 'moderator'. Leave the scene and quickly! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Lovely comment from a 'moderator'. Leave the scene and quickly! It wasn't from a moderator it was from a member - me, my personal view. You gave as good as anything you got in that thread Kev - with the odd little digs. Fair play - but you don't need an apology from me or any one else. I like your pompous "leave the scene and quickly" - nice touch. But you don't have to worry - I never have and never would be part of your scene, it's not really my thing. Anyway, as I said in my previous post - 101 I think, and how ironic is that, just drop it. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 It wasn't from a moderator it was from a member - me, my personal view. You gave as good as anything you got in that thread Kev - with the odd little digs. Fair play - but you don't need an apology from me or any one else. I like your pompous "leave the scene and quickly" - nice touch. But you don't have to worry - I never have and never would be part of your scene, it's not really my thing. Anyway, as I said in my previous post - 101 I think, and how ironic is that, just drop it. Then stop commenting on something you know f*** all about. I said 24 hours ago that Chris Burton has no intention of promoting The Box, even though the owner is still trying to get him in. What does that say about the current promoter. FFS! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Then stop commenting on something you know f*** all about. I said 24 hours ago that Chris Burton has no intention of promoting The Box, even though the owner is still trying to get him in. What does that say about the current promoter. FFS! How you are allowed to carry on with your behaviour is unbelievable. Keep rising to the top. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Cmon over Joe and Martin, the chair is dry, for the moment, like the GIn. This says everything just about how "the scene" is fucked. Someone put the lights out as they leave, no doubt they will be old copy SOX lights being sold as originals but branded for profit. Sad f**king state for old men to be in. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 How you are allowed to carry on with your behaviour is unbelievable. Keep rising to the top. I didn't think it would be long before you turned up. Pour yourself another one. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Simple question. Does Chris Burton hold the copyright to the word torch ? Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Simple question. Does Chris Burton hold the copyright to the word torch ? Steve Of course not. No one can copyright the word Torch. However, the Torch logo and emblem relating to his former club he owns. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Burton Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Mace......Maybe. I just feel if anyone should deserve to do a proper job on a Torch Revival its CB. Especially now it's in Tunstall. Nothing much else to say about it My personal reply to all the situation with Crewe is posted on the Staffs Cheshire Soul scene page and that is the truth of the situation Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Marky Tee Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Read the post again,,, Apologies i DID Miss Read it!! Yes we have DJd there a few times Il get back in me box Nige B No problem Nige Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Carry on...I'm still laughing at the top DJs comment 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Byrney Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Interesting debate So taking the view that Chris Burton is the Torch and therefore the one who should take precedence in promoting Torch revivals over other existing promotions, does that logic then extend to Russ Winstanley as being best placed over others to promote Wigan Casino reunions? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 My personal reply to all the situation with Crewe is posted on the Staffs Cheshire Soul scene page and that is the truth of the situation Evening Chris....hope you are well. Welcome to Soul Source.......unfortunately, not everyone on here is on FaceBook.......perhaps you could post a copy of your reply on here for the benefit of those left wondering. Regards Mace 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Bridgesoceity Posted December 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2014 Great reading, you oldies dinosaurs squabbling over who gets to play their re issues at the next big Butlins event is much better than what's on TV any day, keep on keeping on moaning. ;-) 11 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Of course not. No one can copyright the word Torch. However, the Torch logo and emblem relating to his former club he owns. Thanks Kev. Was just curious. Steve 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Marky Tee Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Then stop commenting on something you know f*** all about. I said 24 hours ago that Chris Burton has no intention of promoting The Box, even though the owner is still trying to get him in. What does that say about the current promoter. FFS! Maybe it says more about the money grabbing arsehole who manages the box, and those with similar mindsets. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Burton Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) And here's the best bit of all.........Chris was still being offered the venue even TODAY! Don't really see how that is the best bit at all......quite shameful behaviour of the manager of the venue if so, and moreso of you to gloat about it. Jez, if I was you I'd walk away from the venue and let them get on with it.... I have been offered the Box twice today and to take on the Sundays as well from January 2015 by the owner and I have refused to be involved in any Northern Soul promotions at his venue Edited December 9, 2014 by Chris Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Why?? The venue is currently being used by soul promoter for his current soul events. What right does a "new" promoter have, to even contact the venue at all. Morally this is wrong!! Welcome to the real world................... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Burton Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I have been offered the Box twice today and to take on the Sundays as well from January 2015 by the owner and I have refused to be involved in any Northern Soul promotions at his venue 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Is this still going on? Anybody got any decent records to sell? F*** all on EBay Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Marky Tee Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Maybe nobody should. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Labeat Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 So in a nutshell... is it on is it off, is it a sell-out is it not a sell-out? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Burton Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Welcome to the real world................... Jez Jones knows the truth about how he introduced me to the owner , all I have tried to do is help out to realise the true potential of The Box, well no more help will be offered from me and I will certainly not be in involved in any further discussions 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Burton Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 So in a nutshell... is it on is it off, is it a sell-out is it not a sell-out? As far as I am concerned no further help can be given to The Box, The venue can be more successful, I wish The Box and Jez all the very best in the future please be aware I have today been offered the venue twice by the owner and I have explained why I can not be involved and why I will not be involved. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Perhaps Jez should come on and put it to bed.......saw you reading the thread earlier Jez so now's your time to shine fella! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Then stop commenting on something you know f*** all about. I said 24 hours ago that Chris Burton has no intention of promoting The Box, even though the owner is still trying to get him in. What does that say about the current promoter. FFS! Commenting purely on what I've read in this thread Kev but he clearly "had" an intention of promoting at the venue and only dropped out after your intervention. That's still the point, whether there's a greedy owner, poor promoter or a chancer promoter. He could have said no. Enjoy another trip to the Etihad! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Evening Chris....hope you are well. Welcome to Soul Source.......unfortunately, not everyone on here is on FaceBook.......perhaps you could post a copy of your reply on here for the benefit of those left wondering. Regards Mace Presume the copy and past quote below is the FB post you refer to Chris? If not please advise and I will remove. "Important announcement !! ::: Re The Box @ Crewe Cheshire .. I was asked by the owner of The Box to promote 2 All - Nighters next year, Jez Jones was invit...ed to be a partner in the promotions, Jez declined the overall proposals in terms of The Box Having given due consideration to the owners request I have decided due to the concerns and comments from several people within the Northern Soul scene to withdraw from the planned events on March 14th & November 14th in order to preserve my reputation within the Northern Soul scene. All the very best to The Box and Jez Jones. Chris Burton" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Simple question No 2. How did the owner of the box manage to book all the DJ,s for the nighter next year without a promoter involved. And if he's that good why isn't he running his own venue instead of letting other's do it Steve 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Burton Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Welcome to the real world................... Evening Chris....hope you are well. Welcome to Soul Source.......unfortunately, not everyone on here is on FaceBook.......perhaps you could post a copy of your reply on here for the benefit of those left wondering. Regards Mace Hi Mace good to hear from you. Basically Jez introduced me to the owner the Sunday that the owner kicked Winnie out of THE bOX and he asked me if I would take the Sunday sessions at The Box, I told the owner in front of Jez that I could not be involved however Jez and I had several discussions in terms of how we could increase the numbers from the 60 that were attending at that time, I suggest later on that Saturday All nighters might help to raise the profile of the venue, I proposed a deal to Jez and he stated that he wanted to proceed doing it his way. Moving on several weeks the owner contacted me to advise me that he had agreed with Jez that Jez quite rightly wanted to continue with his Sundays and that he has reached agreement with Jez that I could assist with 2 all- nighters a year a position that I thought would work because Jez had agreed, I now realise that Jez had not been informed until last Sunday, I commenced advertising on facebook yesterday not knowing what had actually happened, when I was aware of what had happed I immediately withdrew my advertising, cancelled the flyers and tickets for March 14th and informed the owner that I could not be involved due to the circumstances that had presented them selves The owner had confirmed all the key points I have referred to me in writing and if this ill informed campaign against me does not stop I will take the legal action to stop it. I have done my very best within the soul scene for over 40 years and my reputation is still very important to me and thanks to the support given to me I hope to continue to do so for a few more years See you soon Mace Edited December 9, 2014 by Chris Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Burton Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Presume the copy and past quote below is the FB post you refer to Chris? If not please advise and I will remove. "Important announcement !! ::: Re The Box @ Crewe Cheshire .. I was asked by the owner of The Box to promote 2 All - Nighters next year, Jez Jones was invit...ed to be a partner in the promotions, Jez declined the overall proposals in terms of The Box Having given due consideration to the owners request I have decided due to the concerns and comments from several people within the Northern Soul scene to withdraw from the planned events on March 14th & November 14th in order to preserve my reputation within the Northern Soul scene. All the very best to The Box and Jez Jones. Chris Burton" This is my facebook posting and a copy was sent to Jez 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Simple question No 2. How did the owner of the box manage to book all the DJ,s for the nighter next year without a promoter involved. And if he's that good why isn't he running his own venue instead of letting other's do it Steve Chris in his reply to Mace has answered my question . Thank you Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris Burton Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Commenting purely on what I've read in this thread Kev but he clearly "had" an intention of promoting at the venue and only dropped out after your intervention. That's still the point, whether there's a greedy owner, poor promoter or a chancer promoter. He could have said no. Enjoy another trip to the Etihad! Refer to my content posted to Mace a little earlier ........ That's the truth Steve .. Chris Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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