Top 500 'fans'...look Away Now

[Len]

a different mix if I remember rightly...thanks butch !!!!!

 

 

Yup that's the one.......Yeh, thanks Butch

 

Len  

Edited December 16, 2014 by LEN

[Goldsoul]

Are there any songs that you believe are genuinely more popular than the 20 the mass public have suggested?

Mark 'Wiganer 1' makes a good call on Billy Davis -Stanky, but what else.....or has the punter got it bob on?

[Zed1]

Herb Ward - Strange Change and Bob Sinclair - Tribute mentioned in the same sentence.......

 

 

The lunatics have finally taken over the asylum.

[Mellorful]

Got to agree about Billy Davis - Stanky, gets played all the time and is a proven cure for my insomnia.

But no Wade Flemons, Lou Pride, Duke Browner, Edwin Starr (time) or Four Pro's, hardly aFriday or Saturday goes by without me listening to some DJ spinning em. I guess the top 20 must be a regional thing; each area with its own frequent plays - I must be in the right region cos I rarely hear Bob Sinclair played and when it is spun it always reminds me that its time to pay a visit to the gents...... must be the word "crap" springs to mind when I hear it.

[Andybellwood]

Got to agree about Billy Davis - Stanky, gets played all the time and is a proven cure for my insomnia.

But no Wade Flemons, Lou Pride, Duke Browner, Edwin Starr (time) or Four Pro's, hardly aFriday or Saturday goes by without me listening to some DJ spinning em. I guess the top 20 must be a regional thing; each area with its own frequent plays - I must be in the right region cos I rarely hear Bob Sinclair played and when it is spun it always reminds me that its time to pay a visit to the gents...... must be the word "crap" springs to mind when I hear it.

Agree with additions - same here , plus Sam Dees. Edited December 16, 2014 by andybellwood

[Mellorful]

I almost forgot -----Frankie Beverly - If thats what you wanted...?

[Mark R]

Not being a Northern doo frequenter, I also didn't realise that Soulutions was getting played in NS venues. Is this widely the case, or regional/venue releated? Who is responsible for pushing this on that scene?

I can understand how it 'fits' the NS scene beat/style wise, but thereby lies the slight frustration for me......so many great records overlooked because they don't fit a beat pattern. Doesn't really matter so long as those records make it in the modern rooms, but some even struggle to get airplay in that environment........

Cheers,

Mark R

[Wiggyflat]

Can't believe The Vel Vets is not in there.We don't get Tribute down south.Stubborn Heart seems to get a lot of stick down here.

[Guest Matt Male]

Why are these the most popular records though? Not because they are the best (there are thousands of others) and not because they are the most requested (I'm guessing). 'Popular' in this case means most often played across the country does it? In which case there is serious lack of imagination and individualism of the part of a majority of DJs.

[Lionelonthevinyl]

Are there any songs that you believe are genuinely more popular than the 20 the mass public have suggested?

Mark 'Wiganer 1' makes a good call on Billy Davis -Stanky, but what else.....or has the punter got it bob on?

To be fair probably none more popular than those posted at lots of do's.....last year or  so for me the top tunes have been, the trends-not to old to cry, and soul stirrers-don't you worry, there both off the top of my head....both great records imo.....thank you...Rob

[Guest Matt Male]

To be fair probably none more popular than those posted at lots of do's.....last year or  so for me the top tunes have been, the trends-not to old to cry, and soul stirrers-don't you worry, there both off the top of my head....both great records imo.....thank you...Rob

 

 

The Soul Stirrers has got no chance of making a 'popular' list Rob, going by what's been mentioned before. Unfortunately.

 

I haven't been out much this year, but almost everywhere I went in the last few years the Swan Silvertones, the Sacred Four and Willie Dale was played. That doesn't mean they is 'popular' though. Thank God.

 

New Years resolution: Go to oldies nights and request the Appointments - Steppin Closer, so it makes next year's list.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Matt Male

[Zed1]

We don't get Tribute down south.

 

Then get down on your hands and knees and pray to the Gods of music that it stays that way.

[Chalky]

Yup that's the one.......Yeh, thanks Butch

 

Len  

 

It isa different singer not a different mix.  It is Mill Edwards.

[KevH]

Can't believe The Vel Vets is not in there.We don't get Tribute down south.Stubborn Heart seems to get a lot of stick down here.

 

When anyone tires of Ernest Mosely,let me know.

[Jona]

When anyone tires of Ernest Mosely,let me know.

 

or the shepherd's Kev, both top drawer, anyone want to swap for tribute???

[Guest]

weirdest and possibly worst imho

 

 

Surely not worse than Cats Eyes by Life?

 

 and first time I heard that, was at Blackpool Mecca!

Edited December 16, 2014 by Guest

[Guest Matt Male]

When anyone tires of Ernest Mosely,let me know.

 

That's not possible Kev.

[Len]

It isa different singer not a different mix.  It is Mill Edwards.

 

I knew that Chalky  

 

 

 

.........I was on the Journey Butch was a taking me on, and just knew he would 'get this train back on track' soon after - and he did!

 

Len  

Edited December 16, 2014 by LEN

[grouse]

I had to Youtube Bob Sinclair as I don't frequent anywhere where anything this bad would be played.

 

Words fail me.................

[Quinvy]

It's a good point Kev. I obviously don't mean depressing as in the quality of the records, but the fact that they have mostly been commonly played for decades in most cases. Where are the Joey Irvings, Willie Dales, JT Parkers and other astonishing records played out over the last few years?

 

Where on earth are the 'newcomers' going?

Trouble is Matt, that short list of records aren't worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as the Tomangoes. And in my humble opinion aren't even good enough to play out. Wouldn't give you twopence for 'em. 

 

And therein lies the the reason that the nostalgia scene goes on and on. And the up front scene has had it.

 

Just my opinion of course.

[Len]

Words fail me.................

 

I know - It's amazing isn't it?

 

Len

Edited December 16, 2014 by LEN

[Ceejay]

The Stanky 45 was a £10 record until one night at one of my Burnley Allnighters a few years ago. Fred Krol dug it out and played it.

 

You wouldn't believe how many people ran up to the decks to see what it was.

 

Next day you couldn't find a copy on any of the dealers sites. The price shot up over night.

 

Fred is very embarrassed to be the man responsible for it's rise to stardom. However, I find it very poor form that the soul snobs on here are slamming it as such a bad record. At least it's a dance record, and I would far rather hear Stanky than most of the dirge that gets the plaudits from folk on this forum.

 

I was there that night Phil and I was one of those that rushed up asked what it was. Must've been around 5/6 years ago now. Very different to what I usually like and a different tempo, I thought it was brilliant then and still do.........great dance record!!!

 

Carol     

[Ian Parker]

Youd be surpried where and how often its played, Mr Grouse

[Lionelonthevinyl]

The Soul Stirrers has got no chance of making a 'popular' list Rob, going by what's been mentioned before. Unfortunately.

 

I haven't been out much this year, but almost everywhere I went in the last few years the Swan Silvertones, the Sacred Four and Willie Dale was played. That doesn't mean they is 'popular' though. Thank God.

 

New Years resolution: Go to oldies nights and request the Appointments - Steppin Closer, so it makes next year's list.

You're right Matt....but to be fair you go where you like, listen to what you enjoy, and have a good time...horses for courses etc...what I think are great records are probably a million miles off someone else's choice...which is how it should be..everyone thinks they have sublime taste!!....(you are right though).......thank you....Rob

[Quinvy]

I had to Youtube Bob Sinclair as I don't frequent anywhere where anything this bad would be played.

 

Words fail me.................

Hang the Dj's

[grouse]

 

And therein lies the the reason that the nostalgia scene goes on and on. And the up front scene has had it.

 

Just my opinion of course.

I sort of half of agree with Phil, in that the rise in popularity of Funk and R&B on the up front scene has diluted the quality of the records played.

 

If I was new to the scene and didn't know anything I would be going to venues playing The Tomangoes and not the ones playing Funk.

 

Then again the last time I heard Mick H and Andy D there was some awesome 'proper northern' played that I hadn't heard before.

 

Probably a topic for it's own thread.

Edited December 16, 2014 by grouse

[barney]

I sort of half of agree with Phil, in that the rise in popularity of Funk and R&B on the up front scene has diluted the quality of the records played.

 

If I was new to the scene and didn't know anything I would be going to venues playing The Tomangoes and not the ones playing Funk.

 

Then again the last time I heard Mick H and Andy D there was some awesome 'proper northern' played that I hadn't heard before.

 

Probably a topic for it's own thread.

yep funk and R&B just leave me cold ,well the stuff I hear in modern rooms which I rarely visit except at w/enders to hear mates play out ,who unfortunately have been cursed and actually like this stuff, as for tribute it doesn't get an airing at any of the venues I go to and the dj would probably be booed off the decks and rightly so ,

[Guest Garry Huxley]

Trouble is Matt, that short list of records aren't worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as the Tomangoes. And in my humble opinion aren't even good enough to play out. Wouldn't give you twopence for 'em. 

 

And therein lies the the reason that the nostalgia scene goes on and on. And the up front scene has had it.

 

Just my opinion of course.

more n more peeps defecting every day

[Chalky]

I sort of half of agree with Phil, in that the rise in popularity of Funk and R&B on the up front scene has diluted the quality of the records played.

 

If I was new to the scene and didn't know anything I would be going to venues playing The Tomangoes and not the ones playing Funk.

 

Then again the last time I heard Mick H and Andy D there was some awesome 'proper northern' played that I hadn't heard before.

 

Probably a topic for it's own thread.

I would agree regarding the funk, some of it is good, some excellent, a lot is very average and worse.  Much of what I hear does nothing for me but I appreciate others like it, it is a question of getting the balance right. 

[Chalky]

Trouble is Matt, that short list of records aren't worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as the Tomangoes. And in my humble opinion aren't even good enough to play out. Wouldn't give you twopence for 'em. 

 

And therein lies the the reason that the nostalgia scene goes on and on. And the up front scene has had it.

 

Just my opinion of course.

 

But what is?  It is ultimate northern and will take some beating, much of what followed the since the discovery of the Tomangoes is inferior.  But as for the upfront scene, what and who have you listened too lately? I've heard some fantastic sets at Lifeline, 100 Club, middle room at Radders and other venues the last 12 months or so. Much of the funky stuff does little for me but it does fill the floor.  But there is still plenty of new stuff out there that is actually very good.  There is life in it yet, just depends where you go and who you listen to.  Just because you or others don't like it doesn't mean it has had it.

[grouse]

I would agree regarding the funk, some of it is good, some excellent, a lot is very average and worse.  Much of what I hear does nothing for me but I appreciate others like it, it is a question of getting the balance right. 

To be quite honest Chalky, it puts me off going to anywhere where it will get played.

 

I have to drive for at least a couple of hours to get to any venues and It's not worth the effort.

 

Maybe I'm just getting lazy.

[Spacehopper]

so this is a chart compiled of tunes played on mixcloud...what has that got to do with whats being played by djs out in the REAL world...actually on the scene ...this just tells us those who listen to soul on their computer or phone are largely oldies fans...no surprises their....some great records but very few different from the obvious....cerrtainly not an interesting chart IMO

[Guest Matt Male]

Trouble is Matt, that short list of records aren't worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as the Tomangoes. And in my humble opinion aren't even good enough to play out. Wouldn't give you twopence for 'em. 

 

And therein lies the the reason that the nostalgia scene goes on and on. And the up front scene has had it.

 

Just my opinion of course.

 

I agree they aren't the same quality as the Tomangoes, but what is? Joey Irving - There's a Man not good enough to play out, seriously? If the majority of people think like that then we may as well all up stumps and go home.

 

And meanwhile s**t like Bob Sinclair is good enough to play out?

Edited December 16, 2014 by Matt Male

[Chalky]

so this is a chart compiled of tunes played on mixcloud...what has that got to do with whats being played by djs out in the REAL world...actually on the scene ...this just tells us those who listen to soul on their computer or phone are largely oldies fans...no surprises their....some great records but very few different from the obvious....cerrtainly not an interesting chart IMO

 

I would imaging it is compiled by Goldsoul attendees?  Would be good to know how many cancassed to arrive at this chart. 

[KevH]

more n more peeps defecting every day

 

I want it all.Both worlds.

[Winnie :-)]

I want it all.Both worlds.

Is that wanting it all though, or just what it should be?

[Len]

Is that wanting it all though, or just what it should be?

 

What it should be - One Scene.

 

Um, sorry for butting in there Win  

 

Len  

Edited December 16, 2014 by LEN

[Winnie :-)]

What it should be - One Scene.

 

Um, sorry for butting in there Win  

 

Len  

Sorry Len, it was meant to be a rhetorical question, agree though it should be one scene, that would be the ideal. 

[Dazdakin]

Bob Sinclair is wank as far as I am concerned but I don't matter as it's a dance scene and that usually means it's the dancers that have the last say.

Biggest tune IMHO last 12mths has been the ravins, utterly storming real deal northern.

Dazz

[Pete Eccles]

I'm out playing a few every weekend, often at some very busy oldies  events and I don't even own half of that list on post #1, until seeing this thread I had never heard the Soulutions track,

As already said it must be a regional thing, then again I do get about,

I have also been asked to play Herb Ward with alarming regularity for as long as I can remember, again at busy oldies nights,

 

"Turley Richards", "Albert Washington" been mentioned? Seem to hear these everywhere

Edited December 16, 2014 by Pete60

[Goldsoul]

I would imaging it is compiled by Goldsoul attendees? Would be good to know how many cancassed to arrive at this chart.

Not neccessarily. We cast out net far n wide. I don't think anyone can argue the 20 are current floor fillers. Name others that are on par with those in the popularity stakes?

[Mace]

Surprised this wasn't on 'the list'.........always next year I suppose......

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGZHsUXOI64

[Len]

Bob Sinclair is wank

Dazz

 

     What a great line! Not even a * in sight!

 

Well done that man  

 

Made me cry with laughter - Thanks for that  

 

Len  

Edited December 16, 2014 by LEN

[KevH]

Is that wanting it all though, or just what it should be?

 

I want to be able to choose to go to an oldies venue or upfront.

 

Cant believe Harvey Averne - "never learned to dance" isn't included.

[Goldsoul]

Surprised this wasn't on 'the list'.........always next year I suppose......

Even the regular oldies fans find that little ditty disturbing!

[Guest Matt Male]

Bob Sinclair is wank as far as I am concerned but I don't matter as it's a dance scene and that usually means it's the dancers that have the last say.

Biggest tune IMHO last 12mths has been the ravins, utterly storming real deal northern.

Dazz

 

Let's face it most people on the scene have s**t taste.  

 

There, I said what we're all thinking.

[Amsterdam Russ]

Let's face it most people on the scene have s**t taste.  

 

There, I said what we're all thinking.

And therein lies the secret as to why the scene has lasted 40-plus years… 

[Quinvy]

I agree they aren't the same quality as the Tomangoes, but what is? Joey Irving - There's a Man not good enough to play out, seriously? If the majority of people think like that then we may as well all up stumps and go home.

 

And meanwhile s**t like Bob Sinclair is good enough to play out?

It does nowt for me. And that's what I've done, up stumps and gone home.

 

Made the mistake of going to a nighter a few months ago. Couldn't tell what the **** was being played, the sound was so bad.

[Mellorful]

Not neccessarily. We cast out net far n wide. I don't think anyone can argue the 20 are current floor fillers. Name others that are on par with those in the popularity stakes?

HI Kev

I appreciate the big name DJ's often spin Tomangoes, Salvadors, Herb Ward etc at major quarterly or annual events (though I cant remember hearing them play Bob Sinclair - probably cos you'd sack em if they did ); but the next level tier of DJ (regional rather than national resource) entertain audiences monthly with the likes of Turley Richards, Paul Anka, Frankie Beverly, Gene Chandler, Vel-Vets, Fred Hughes, James Carr and Fi-dels and the punters keep going back to the local venues for more of same.  I'm sure many of big name DJ's would confirm hearing those tunes played every weekend when they venture out at the local venues.  

Kind regards

Stu

[Iancsloft]

Take all the Dj,s and spouses outa the current UK soul scene and you would be left once again with a underground scene like back in the day..Everywhere  I go to there are bloody DJs everywhere 100s of the critters there breeding like mad it's like the soul scene has been taken over by those who live amongst us trying to blend in with human kind I bet that George Clinton bugger has something to do with it LOL Invaders...The Best is Yet to Come ...now there's a record ya don't hear out much....

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