soulfulsaint Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 The cover-up thread has convinced me that the rare soul scene has a language just as complicated as the engima codes of the Second World War. Can you help crack them? On 5th Spetmber 1981, in an edition of 'Echoes', Richard Searling listed his Top Twenty Crockets' Sounds. Some are covers, some obscurities, some classics and one or two may even be wind-ups - you decide. Some are still big sounds others have drifted with time. This is what Richard listed back in 1981. 1. Your Love is Slippin Away - Maurice McCallister (Chess) 2. Over and Over Again - Dee Dee Gartrell (Cyclone) 3. That's The Way Its Gonna Be - James Lewis (Legend) 4. Your Love Keeps Me Dancing - Lee Moore (Source) 5. Like I Never Did Before - The Chessmen (Checker) 6. I Got It From Heaven - Bobby Hutton (ABC) 7. I'm Not Worried - Cody Black (D-Town) 8. How Can I Tell Her - Leon Bryant (Delite) 9. Memories No Time - Spyder Turner (MGM) 10. Learning How To Dance - Roddie Joy (Red Bird) 11. That's The KInda Man I Am- Bobby Adams (Big Bee) 12 All of My Life Spent Waiting For You - Lamarr Thomas (Epic) 13. Get Ready for Love - Inner Space (Fizz) 14. Gonna GIve You My LOve - Garry Glenn (PPL) 15. I'll Never Say Goodbye - Eddie Daye (Shrine) 16. No Second Chance - Phantom Janitor (Stax) 17. When He's Not Around - Rose Valentine (RCA) 18 I'm Comin Over - Johnny Honeycutt (Triode) 19. I Can Make You Love Me - Prince George (Era) 20. The Love Who Loves You Not - Herbie Williams (GWP) Your assignment, should you chose to accept it, is to uncover the cover-ups, price the sounds on mint original at today's prices, identify album tracks, and 'expose' any wind-ups. By all means comment on the quality of the set. But information always trumps opinion. Remember, even if you can only crack one part of the code, it may help the soul nation. (No shortcuts please - full titles, artists and labels.) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 3. That's The Way Its Gonna Be - James Lewis (Legend) The Q - Thats The Way - Hound 100+ 9. Memories No Time - Spyder Turner (MGM) John & The Weirdest - Tie - 1000+ 10. Learning How To Dance - Roddie Joy (Red Bird) Vivian Carol - Oh yeah yeah - Merben 400 17. When He's Not Around - Rose Valentine (RCA) Little Ann - unreleased Topper 18 I'm Comin Over - Johnny Honeycutt (Triode) As is 20. The Love Who Loves You Not - Herbie Williams (GWP) Court Davis - Try To Think - East Coast 800 This is awful, I've forgotten half of them in the time between starting the reply and now! First one, Mr Soul (Al Scott) - What happened to yesterday - genuine £2000? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 A few to add to the others from Pete S. 1. Your Love is Slippin Away - Maurice McCallister (Chess) Mr Soul - What Happened To Yesterday - Genuine 2. Over and Over Again - Dee Dee Gartrell (Cyclone) 3. That's The Way Its Gonna Be - James Lewis (Legend) 4. Your Love Keeps Me Dancing - Lee Moore (Source) Ike Strong - Your Love Keeps Me Dancing - Mable 5. Like I Never Did Before - The Chessmen (Checker) 6. I Got It From Heaven - Bobby Hutton (ABC) Billy Harner - I Got It From Heaven - Sound Gems 7. I'm Not Worried - Cody Black (D-Town) 8. How Can I Tell Her - Leon Bryant (Delite) Curtis - How Can I Tell Her - Charm City 9. Memories No Time - Spyder Turner (MGM) 10. Learning How To Dance - Roddie Joy (Red Bird) 11. That's The KInda Man I Am- Bobby Adams (Big Bee) 12 All of My Life Spent Waiting For You - Lamarr Thomas (Epic) 13. Get Ready for Love - Inner Space (Fizz) 14. Gonna GIve You My LOve - Garry Glenn (PPL) Not A Cover Up! 15. I'll Never Say Goodbye - Eddie Daye (Shrine) 16. No Second Chance - Phantom Janitor (Stax) 17. When He's Not Around - Rose Valentine (RCA) Little Ann 18 I'm Comin Over - Johnny Honeycutt (Triode) 19. I Can Make You Love Me - Prince George (Era) 20. The Love Who Loves You Not - Herbie Williams (GWP) Sean Hampsey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 A few to add to the others from Pete S. 16. No Second Chance - Phantom Janitor (Stax) DEADBEATS - No Second Chance - STRATA - £??? Lots! Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Thought you'd have got no 13 Sean. Get Ready - Alan Harris & Perpetual Motion. Great record Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 A few to add to the others from Pete S. 1. Your Love is Slippin Away - Maurice McCallister (Chess) Mr Soul - What Happened To Yesterday - Genuine 2. Over and Over Again - Dee Dee Gartrell (Cyclone) 3. That's The Way Its Gonna Be - James Lewis (Legend) 4. Your Love Keeps Me Dancing - Lee Moore (Source) Ike Strong - Your Love Keeps Me Dancing - Mable 5. Like I Never Did Before - The Chessmen (Checker) 6. I Got It From Heaven - Bobby Hutton (ABC) Billy Harner - I Got It From Heaven - Sound Gems 7. I'm Not Worried - Cody Black (D-Town) 8. How Can I Tell Her - Leon Bryant (Delite) Curtis - How Can I Tell Her - Charm City 9. Memories No Time - Spyder Turner (MGM) 10. Learning How To Dance - Roddie Joy (Red Bird) 11. That's The KInda Man I Am- Bobby Adams (Big Bee) 12 All of My Life Spent Waiting For You - Lamarr Thomas (Epic) 13. Get Ready for Love - Inner Space (Fizz) 14. Gonna GIve You My LOve - Garry Glenn (PPL) Not A Cover Up! 15. I'll Never Say Goodbye - Eddie Daye (Shrine) 16. No Second Chance - Phantom Janitor (Stax) 17. When He's Not Around - Rose Valentine (RCA) Little Ann 18 I'm Comin Over - Johnny Honeycutt (Triode) 19. I Can Make You Love Me - Prince George (Era) 20. The Love Who Loves You Not - Herbie Williams (GWP) Sean Hampsey I got Mr Soul and Little Ann above Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Awake 502 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) 2. Over and Over Again - Dee Dee Gartrell (Cyclone) Ernestine Eady / Let's talk it over... Phil LA Of Soul 4. Your Love Keeps Me Dancing - Lee Moore (Source) Ike Strong on Mable 5. Like I Never Did Before - The Chessmen (Checker) Combinations on Kellmac 10. Learning How To Dance - Roddie Joy (Red Bird) Carol ? on Merben 11. That's The KInda Man I Am- Bobby Adams (Big Bee) Real artist, still very rare ? 12 All of My Life Spent Waiting For You - Lamarr Thomas (Epic) Nu-Rons 15. I'll Never Say Goodbye - Eddie Daye (Shrine) Vontastics on Satellite just thought of another, Ray Pollard and the Wonderettes / Got to get away for good.... Edited August 22, 2006 by Awake 502 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 Keep them coming still some way to go yet. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Keep them coming still some way to go yet. No 5 - The Combinations on Kellmac. As for the value? I'd say about £2 so if anybody's got a copy i'd gladly do them a favour & give e'm a fiver for it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I got Mr Soul and Little Ann above So you did Pete, Only took one glance and was too busy typing to check back to see what you'd done. Well done that man... ... but I got 'em too! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Thought you'd have got no 13 Sean. Get Ready - Alan Harris & Perpetual Motion. Great record Hi Martin, I've been just glancing at this page while in a Sales Meeting and couldn't bring all of the answers to the surface (while Ballocking the Sales Team) The guys think I'm taking Minutes You are right. A Top Tune! Will call you later. After the final Ballocking! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 Any advance on those above - for example: 7. I'm Not Worried - Cody Black (D-Town) 19. I Can Make You Love Me - Prince George (Era) Dont be shy with prices either - the code is almost cracked. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Any advance on those above - for example: 7. I'm Not Worried - Cody Black (D-Town) 19. I Can Make You Love Me - Prince George (Era) Dont be shy with prices either - the code is almost cracked. Is number 7 Joe L on Clissac? Or..I forget..on Di Venus? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Baz Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Is number 7 Joe L on Clissac? Or..I forget..on Di Venus? Nope right the first time Pete Great record Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) ...Just No 19 to go and the Searling code is cracked. What was 'I Can Make You Love Me' - Prince George (Era)? Nothing do do with Prince George's 'Wrong Crowd' (DPG) nor Othello Roberston's 'So In Luv' (Era) Who is going to tap in the last goal - and claim the glory? Is there a glory hunter in the house? Edited August 22, 2006 by soulfulsaint Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) ...Just No 19 to go and the Searling code is cracked. What was 'I Can Make You Love Me' - Prince George (Era)? Nothing do do with Prince George's 'Wrong Crowd' (DPG) nor Othello Roberston's 'So In Luv' (Era) Who is going to tap in the last goal - and claim the glory? Is there a glory hunter in the house? Not George Micheal is it I Can't Make You Love Me (Bonnie Raitt/Prince/George Michael) Edited August 22, 2006 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 ...Just No 19 to go and the Searling code is cracked. What was 'I Can Make You Love Me' - Prince George (Era)? Nothing do do with Prince George's 'Wrong Crowd' (DPG) nor Othello Roberston's 'So In Luv' (Era) Who is going to tap in the last goal - and claim the glory? Is there a glory hunter in the house? If you change the 'can' to 'gonna', we can put it down to the Combinations on Kimtone ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 The cover-up thread has convinced me that the rare soul scene has a language just as complicated as the engima codes of the Second World War. Can you help crack them? On 5th Spetmber 1981, in an edition of 'Echoes', Richard Searling listed his Top Twenty Crockets' Sounds. Some are covers, some obscurities, some classics and one or two may even be wind-ups - you decide. Some are still big sounds others have drifted with time. This is what Richard listed back in 1981. 1. Your Love is Slippin Away - Maurice McCallister (Chess) 2. Over and Over Again - Dee Dee Gartrell (Cyclone) 3. That's The Way Its Gonna Be - James Lewis (Legend) 4. Your Love Keeps Me Dancing - Lee Moore (Source) 5. Like I Never Did Before - The Chessmen (Checker) 6. I Got It From Heaven - Bobby Hutton (ABC) BILLY HARNER ON SOUND GEMS 7. I'm Not Worried - Cody Black (D-Town) 8. How Can I Tell Her - Leon Bryant (Delite) CURTIS ON CHARM CITY 9. Memories No Time - Spyder Turner (MGM) john & the weirdest on tie 10. Learning How To Dance - Roddie Joy (Red Bird) Oh yeah yeah yeah Yvonne Carol on Mebrem 11. That's The KInda Man I Am- Bobby Adams (Big Bee) 12 All of My Life Spent Waiting For You - Lamarr Thomas (Epic) 13. Get Ready for Love - Inner Space (Fizz) 14. Gonna GIve You My LOve - Garry Glenn (PPL) Album track ,correct details 15. I'll Never Say Goodbye - Eddie Daye (Shrine) Vontstics on Satelitte 16. No Second Chance - Phantom Janitor (Stax) 17. When He's Not Around - Rose Valentine (RCA) Little Ann unissued 18 I'm Comin Over - Johnny Honeycutt (Triode) Correct details 19. I Can Make You Love Me - Prince George (Era) 20. The Love Who Loves You Not - Herbie Williams (GWP) Try to think -Court Davis Your assignment, should you chose to accept it, is to uncover the cover-ups, price the sounds on mint original at today's prices, identify album tracks, and 'expose' any wind-ups. By all means comment on the quality of the set. But information always trumps opinion. Remember, even if you can only crack one part of the code, it may help the soul nation. (No shortcuts please - full titles, artists and labels.) Great set of records , really Soulful , one of Wigan's best periods for me .Best ,Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cheltsoulnights Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 No 5 - The Combinations on Kellmac. As for the value? I'd say about £2 so if anybody's got a copy i'd gladly do them a favour & give e'm a fiver for it Got offered one for £6000 last year Didn't buy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Does covering up still occur? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest rachel Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Does covering up still occur? Yes. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 That's really interesting. I would have thought, with the abundance of media avenues, that they'd be uncovered in an instant Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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