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Just sat here wrung out & emotionally raw, with eye's puffed up like a Baboons butt as I watch Comic Relief, we think we have problems in our own small Worlds but this just rams home how trivial my/our problems are. Where the hells those Cucumber slices?????

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Just sat here wrung out & emotionally raw, with eye's puffed up like a Baboons butt as I watch Comic Relief, we think we have problems in our own small Worlds but this just rams home how trivial my/our problems are. Where the hells those Cucumber slices?????

Spot. :shades: 

Aww you 'old softie you' :D .. Agree with you though  I used to be always bawling when I watched that, harrowing and upsetting :( .   Forget the cucumber slices though Spot try cold spoons..although you've got to put em' in't freezer

first :thumbup: .   Love 2u both :)

K&S

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Tragic as it is it`s been going for 30 years now and there has been no change at all. Only a mass sterilisation program will help start to turn the tide.

what a sour ignorant post

 

here are...

 

some info from the donate page

 

https://secure.donate.comicrelief.com/

 

Please choose an amount or enter your own below...

 

You're about to do something really incredible. The money you donate to Comic Relief will make a huge difference to people both here in the UK and across Africa.

 

£30

 

£30 could pay for six elderly people, living with dementia in the UK, to go to a support group where they can socialise and enjoy a range of activities.

 

£50

 

£50 could pay for 20 mosquito nets to protect mothers and their babies across Africa from contracting life-threatening malaria whilst they sleep.

 

£150

 

£150 could provide a child working on a rubbish dump in Kenya with everything they need to go to school for a whole year.

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Wasn`t meant to be sour or ignorant just stating that things have not got better overall in 30 years just by throwing money at it! There needs to be major education in birth control measures brought in. For years the the Catholic church has taught against contraception in Africa which has lead to millions of children dying. Red Nose has done brilliantly over the years and will continue to do so but if we want to tackle 3rd world poverty then it has to start with education on a much wider scale. 

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Wasn`t meant to be sour or ignorant just stating that things have not got better overall in 30 years just by throwing money at it! There needs to be major education in birth control measures brought in. For years the the Catholic church has taught against contraception in Africa which has lead to millions of children dying. Red Nose has done brilliantly over the years and will continue to do so but if we want to tackle 3rd world poverty then it has to start with education on a much wider scale. 

I agree Steve that things don't seem to get any better each year but we can't hold the kids liable for the sins of the Fathers. It broke my heart watching kids trying to survive under such circumstances but how good to see the British Public dip in to over £70 Million again, show there's still compassion & humanity out there. :thumbsup:  :hatsoff2: 

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Wasn`t meant to be sour or ignorant just stating that things have not got better overall in 30 years just by throwing money at it! There needs to be major education in birth control measures brought in. For years the the Catholic church has taught against contraception in Africa which has lead to millions of children dying. Red Nose has done brilliantly over the years and will continue to do so but if we want to tackle 3rd world poverty then it has to start with education on a much wider scale. 

 

Isn't this one of the main prongs of the Gates Foundation's work in Africa ?.

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Aww you 'old softie you' :D .. Agree with you though  I used to be always bawling when I watched that, harrowing and upsetting :( .   Forget the cucumber slices though Spot try cold spoons..although you've got to put em' in't freezer

first :thumbup: .   Love 2u both :)

K&S

Been trying to contact you via SS but seems Steve is persona non grata, must have upset someone, anyway was just to tell him I put some 70's photo's up & yes it is Gail & I tell him. :lol:  :hatsoff2: 

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Wasn`t meant to be sour or ignorant just stating that things have not got better overall in 30 years just by throwing money at it! There needs to be major education in birth control measures brought in. For years the the Catholic church has taught against contraception in Africa which has lead to millions of children dying. Red Nose has done brilliantly over the years and will continue to do so but if we want to tackle 3rd world poverty then it has to start with education on a much wider scale. 

 

There are many, especially in Africa, who say that throwing money at it, actually does more harm than good.

 

http://www.redpepper.org.uk/dont-feed-the-world/

 

Not necessarily my sentiments, but is there a point to be made ?.

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Never have and never will contribute to red nose day or any charities for other countries. Most of these countries get millions of pounds in foreign aid yet are as corrupt as they come. ........ there's charities at home that need help. RNLI. Shelter. MacMillan. Cancer research etc, etc. And yes I do support them before anyone asks.

Steve

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I agree Steve that things don't seem to get any better each year but we can't hold the kids liable for the sins of the Fathers. It broke my heart watching kids trying to survive under such circumstances but how good to see the British Public dip in to over £70 Million again, show there's still compassion & humanity out there. :thumbsup:  :hatsoff2: 

Spot. :shades: 

I totally agree but there will be countless millions in Africa who won`t have heard of Lenny Henry, we see the people who are directly benefiting from aid but it`s always a sticking plaster over a gaping wound. It`s a world problem that it seems there`s no "incentive" to solve. Most world leaders would rather look the other way and whistle. Or maybe spend millions on a conference in a luxury resort with 9 course meals, all agree we have to solve the problem but go their separate ways and do very little.

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Never have and never will contribute to red nose day or any charities for other countries. Most of these countries get millions of pounds in foreign aid yet are as corrupt as they come. ........ there's charities at home that need help. RNLI. Shelter. MacMillan. Cancer research etc, etc. And yes I do support them before anyone asks.

Steve

Steve 40% of the Monies does go to UK Charities, Comic Relief is a 1 off so I don't mind and seeing the Lady with Dementia who said she felt loved in the Nursing Home because her Hubby couldn't give her much loving due to the fact he was away in the Army for most of the time, he'd actually passed some years before, well that tore me up, it reminded me of my Nan & my Aunt plus the fact it could have been my Mum. I give every month to Water Aid, because every person in the World should be entitled to clean water & sanitation, I also give to Cancer Research & McMillan plus my Sister Volunteers as a McMillan Nurse, it makes me feel as if I'm doing a little and helping a little to make this place better whilst I walk this Earth and it actually makes me feel good and happy. :hatsoff2: 

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I totally agree but there will be countless millions in Africa who won`t have heard of Lenny Henry, we see the people who are directly benefiting from aid but it`s always a sticking plaster over a gaping wound. It`s a world problem that it seems there`s no "incentive" to solve. Most world leaders would rather look the other way and whistle. Or maybe spend millions on a conference in a luxury resort with 9 course meals, all agree we have to solve the problem but go their separate ways and do very little.

Yes Steve we all know that and it will never change, so that leaves us with the band aids and savlon because thats all we've got, so do we use it or do we say it won't cure it, so let it die? I for one can't do that btw Who's Lenny Henry? :lol:  :hatsoff2: 

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No, in the mean time we do as we`ve always done, I didn`t say let it die.....I sold a few bits on Ebay I was going to bin and it raise £100 + which went towards last nights total......I still say "What`s the use?" every year and ask myself if i`m I just easing my own conscience?.....probably am!  :hatsoff2:

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They raised £1billion last night. The UK foreign aid budget last year was £12billion. Like others have said, even after 30 years of Comic Relief very little seems to have changed in Africa. There might not be widespread famine any more but Female Genital Mutilation still goes on, anti-gay legislation, the beating of child 'witches', terrorist groups like Boko Haram running wild and governments unable to deal with them, medical infrastructure in most countries is still so poor it cannot cope with diseases like Ebola, and a lot of women still die in child birth and from diseases we don't think twice about in the west. If it was just a case of raising a few billion, all these problems would have been solved by now.

 

I agree with Steve, the political will in the world has never been there to sort out Africa for the ordinary people who live there. As long as multinationals can continue to make profits from Africa's resources without paying anything back into the local economies (apart from the usual bribes) nothing will change.

 

I couldn't watch Comic Relief last night, it's just not funny anymore, on every level. I had to turn over when a bunch of celebs were happily painting a hospital somewhere, a place where I expect FGM and witch beatings were still going on. It's a sick joke now to be honest. :(

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Matt I don't think they raised £1 Billion last night, that's what's been raised over 30 years, last night was £70 million, as far as I know. There will never be the Political will to sort poverty, famine, war or FGM or any other terrible goings on, it's easy to turn the TV over and ignore it and pour yourself another glass of Merlot, saying it'll never change or get better, all you say about Ebola and everything else is true but as  Human Beings do we just build a wall around Africa or where ever and say B*llox to them, they never learn, it's there own fault? And we know some of Celebs use it to boost their careers, but to say they painted a Hospital where you expect FGM to take place is pathetic, I'm sure they're not that stupid and Africa's not the only place it happens, it happens right here in the UK, so lets stop it here first hey!! And to say it#s a sick joke is insulting to the people who do actually care. :hatsoff2: 

Spot. :shades: 

p.s. A Billion should be 1000 million however it seems it's now classed as 100 Million.

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Edited out of respect.

Steve

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I was called "Sour & ignorant" maybe rightly so, it was a bit of a rushed post..... when perhaps to read between the lines a little was called for. 

Big on you STEVE :D for the respect!

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p.s. A Billion should be 1000 million however it seems it's now classed as 100 Million.

 

So much confusion over numbers. :D

 

The U.K. (and I think France) used to define a billion as a million million. We have now fallen in line with everyone else and define it as a thousand million.

 

(I don't think anyone calls a hundred million a billion.)

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Matt I don't think they raised £1 Billion last night, that's what's been raised over 30 years, last night was £70 million, as far as I know. There will never be the Political will to sort poverty, famine, war or FGM or any other terrible goings on, it's easy to turn the TV over and ignore it and pour yourself another glass of Merlot, saying it'll never change or get better, all you say about Ebola and everything else is true but as  Human Beings do we just build a wall around Africa or where ever and say B*llox to them, they never learn, it's there own fault? And we know some of Celebs use it to boost their careers, but to say they painted a Hospital where you expect FGM to take place is pathetic, I'm sure they're not that stupid and Africa's not the only place it happens, it happens right here in the UK, so lets stop it here first hey!! And to say it#s a sick joke is insulting to the people who do actually care. :hatsoff2: 

Spot. :shades: 

p.s. A Billion should be 1000 million however it seems it's now classed as 100 Million.

 

Sorry I thought I'd seen it reported that they got £1billion on the night. On the board it was £1,047,083,706. Where have you seen 100 million called a billion?

 

Anyway, I never said ignore them, or 'build a wall around Africa' or 'they never learn' or 'it's their own fault'. What I did say was that unless western governments actually want things to significantly change in Africa they never will, regardless of how many caring people think they are making a difference.

 

I think the continuing involvement of charities and NGOs discourages governments from acting as they should, and to say that there never will be the political will is surely giving up before the battle's begun?

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It still is a thousand million! :yes:

I realized later Steve , I'm afraid I have the same trouble when I'm counting it in my vault, 100 Mil? 1000 Mil? :lol: 

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