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New research says overweight and obese people are less likely to get dementia than healthy fit people.

 

Is this because their weight kills them before they get to 'dementia age'? ( notwithstanding the poor sufferers of early dementia, including my old pal Les Cokell before he was killed in an RTA)

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New research says overweight and obese people are less likely to get dementia than healthy fit people.

 

 

 

Bummer......... I won't be able to forget I'm a Fat Tw&t. :(

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New research says overweight and obese people are less likely to get dementia than healthy fit people.

 

Is this because their weight kills them before they get to 'dementia age'? ( notwithstanding the poor sufferers of early dementia, including my old pal Les Cokell before he was killed in an RTA)

 

Was reading an article in a newspaper this morning. Britain is one of the worst countries as far as obesity is concerned, will be sure an issue in the years to come.

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Was reading an article in a newspaper this morning. Britain is one of the worst countries as far as obesity is concerned, will be sure an issue in the years to come.

 

Tell us something we don't know Chris. Clogging up the arteries of the NHS more than smokers I bet.

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Tell us something we don't know Chris. Clogging up the arteries of the NHS more than smokers I bet.

Yes, but smoking narrows the arteries (constricts them).  So, you end up subject to heart attacks (AND cancer).  Better to not smoke, and not be obese, and be demented (like me).  I am proof that one can get along with no short-term memory.  The bad times come when you start losing your long-term memory, too.  What forum is this? :huh:

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Was reading an article in a newspaper this morning. Britain is one of the worst countries as far as obesity is concerned, will be sure an issue in the years to come.

 

as with everything, always 15 / 20 years behind america.

 

out of control food industry and poverty.

 

ban fizzy drinks. ensure kids drink water in class. 

 

stop teaching kids eating fat is bad and start telling them about sugar. 

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Cooking meals, appreciating what makes food taste nice, understanding ingredients and eating as a family all play a part too. It takes a bit of effort but it needs to become part of our culture like it is in most other countries in Europe. The Spanish, French and Italians know how to do it without having to resort to sledge hammer strength curries or heart attack inducing cheesy stuffed crust, 4 cheeses with extra cheesy thick base pizzas. And they wouldn't drop the fuckin' junk litter all over the place like we do.

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Cooking meals, appreciating what makes food taste nice, understanding ingredients and eating as a family all play a part too. It takes a bit of effort but it needs to become part of our culture like it is in most other countries in Europe. The Spanish, French and Italians know how to do it without having to resort to sledge hammer strength curries or heart attack inducing cheesy stuffed crust, 4 cheeses with extra cheesy thick base pizzas. And they wouldn't drop the fuckin' junk litter all over the place like we do.

 

good point well made.

 

we are getting better at this.  20 years of decent uninterrupted food porn has had a + effect on us. that and generations of kids getting married later so having more single time, learning to cook rather than me wife does it as an 18 year old

 

the countries you mention have one thing over us though - they are not, for the main, grey, wet and depressing. might sound a little stupid however it does make a massive difference. eating outside, kids running about outside between courses not sitting watching shite tv that resembles a serious psychedelic experience, shivering. 

 

have seen various programs where euro kids say macdonalds is their fave food much to the despair of the adults around. they do seem to have the same issues as us. 

 

good news though macdonlds is going through terrible times currently. even these kids seems to realise whats going on with them now. the issue with their fries was a total pr disaster. 

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When I was a kid at school, you always had one Billy Bunter type kid in the class.  Now it's one skinny kid and a class full of Billy Bunters.

 

what was the question?

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New research says overweight and obese people are less likely to get dementia than healthy fit people.

 

Is this because their weight kills them before they get to 'dementia age'? ( notwithstanding the poor sufferers of early dementia, including my old pal Les Cokell before he was killed in an RTA)

 

This isn't what it said at all. It said that underweight people may be more likely to get dementia than overweight; ie those who are unhealthily too light - not fit "normal"weight people.  Obviously the idea that being obese will save you from dementia is completely crackpot so the whole thing is pretty meaningless really.

 

The idea that being "obese" (which covers a wide range) is in any way good for you or beneficial at all  in ludicrous.

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as with everything, always 15 / 20 years behind america.

 

out of control food industry and poverty.

 

ban fizzy drinks. ensure kids drink water in class. 

 

stop teaching kids eating fat is bad and start telling them about sugar. 

 

By "sugar" I take it you mean carbohydrates?  it hasn't got anything to do with fats or sugar at that level. It's to do with calories. People are fat because they digest too many calories for their physical requirements. back in the 60s we ate sugar all the time: sweets , drinks, baked beans etc and very few of us were fat. However  out diets were pretty low in comparison with fats. We usually had cake once a week if that. I had a friend who used to eat sugar sandwiches and he was like a rake. The problem nowadays is that there is too much cheap food available and people eat it out of habit. Nowadays you can buy a full packet of biscuits in Sainsburys for 20p.(and eat them in five minutes and still feel hungry).  You couldn't do that back then.  Combine this with decreased physical activity and you're bound to  have a problem.

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By "sugar" I take it you mean carbohydrates?  it hasn't got anything to do with fats or sugar at that level. It's to do with calories. People are fat because they digest too many calories for their physical requirements. back in the 60s we ate sugar all the time: sweets , drinks, baked beans etc and very few of us were fat. However  out diets were pretty low in comparison with fats. We usually had cake once a week if that. I had a friend who used to eat sugar sandwiches and he was like a rake. The problem nowadays is that there is too much cheap food available and people eat it out of habit. Nowadays you can buy a full packet of biscuits in Sainsburys for 20p.(and eat them in five minutes and still feel hungry).  You couldn't do that back then.  Combine this with decreased physical activity and you're bound to  have a problem.

Awww, months behind the pace again, but brilliant thread. Canned worms, lovely.....

Fat does actually physically prevent brain cell deterioration as well - CSE grade 2 level scientific fact! Wake up!

Decreased physical activity has far more positives than drawbacks. 

In the old days 20p would buy you a truck full of biscuits; we need a war plus subsequent rationing to stay healthy and trim. Just requires a little bit of human sacrifice is all. 

Fat folk just need a bloody good hiding 

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Having two diabetic parents I was unfortunate to have one of my regular blood tests scheduled for the Monday after an allnighter, so rather than have my blood full of chemicals I opted for a night on vodka and Red Bull.  The blood test result showed dangerously high triglycerides and I had to go see a consultant at the hospital.  She happened to be a Bolton lass who had been a regular at Va-Va's in it's day and told me that taking speed would do me less harm than Red Bull.  Sadly, after the initial consultation I saw her deputy a rotund and tiny Indian woman who told me that I was obese, at the time I weighed less than 14 stone and didn't think that bad as a 6 footer.  In my disgust I said she should try looking in a mirror once in a while.  I am pleased to say that I quit the medication and now weigh less than 13 stone.  So, either the health service have a strange idea as to what obesity is and their BMI charts are crap or the obesity problem isn't as bad as you think, saying that, I don't live in the UK and although I see my fair share of corpulent people in the south of Spain I have no idea of their nationality, and have no idea of what is happening on the streets of the UK as I'm now only an infrequent visitor.

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Tell us something we don't know Chris. Clogging up the arteries of the NHS more than smokers I bet.

what are you a daily mail reader, typical conservative party ploy, set sections of society on each other, deflecting attention away from their failings of our nation 

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Having worked in the Health Fitness and Nutritional sector I have come across all the reasons put forward for obesity and all the alleged culprits responsible for the explosion of obesity in this country.

In front of overweight people who came to the class with all good intentions and who listened intently to what I had to say about the profiteering food industry.misleading advertising, small print on foodstuffs like low in fat  low in sugar,.changes in lifestyle, etc etc...I gradually became disilliusioned with the whole thing ..why?...because the majority of the people in front of me I realised were just lazy with no will power at all or should I say respect for their bodies.........many had done no exercise in their school days..none had played any sport....now that was over 10 years ago.....now it would appear to be even worse.....there is a picture in a well -known newspaper today of a teenage boy who went to Barcelona and did not put on sun cream!...his mother is there with him obviously oblivious to the state of his body and more concerned with his sunburn..the only answer it seems is to exercise some compulsion at school with the kids because some parents seem to have abdicated any responsibility whatsoever........until its too late...and even then its not their fault.

Having said that I dont think its a government priority despite the huge cost to the NHS in the future.In any case most MPS are not really a good advert for a healthy lifestyle despite their cycle rides and jogs around Hyde Park.....even  NHS staff ,doctors included, look as if  they dont read their own guidelines...I have no reason to change my original opinion ..most people are sheep and swallow what they are fed...literally.

It is actually a change in lifestyle that enables weight loss,even a small change..but most individuals follow the crowd so any change in lifestyle for the better and with a view to achieving success with obesity is going to have to be on a societal level and that aint going to happen.

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Its plain that people arent going to heed health warnings and make sufficient changes themselves. We all know that eating cheap, sugar and fat soaked foods is bad for us but only by being "encouraged" will we make the necessary changes.

Govt simply have to intervene through far tougher regulations about what can be sold, where it is sold, how it is labelled and how it is taxed.

There really isnt any alternative. Carrot doesnt work. Time for the stick.

 

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Its plain that people arent going to heed health warnings and make sufficient changes themselves. We all know that eating cheap, sugar and fat soaked foods is bad for us but only by being "encouraged" will we make the necessary changes.

Govt simply have to intervene through far tougher regulations about what can be sold, where it is sold, how it is labelled and how it is taxed.

There really isnt any alternative. Carrot doesnt work. Time for the stick.

 

That's all well and good, but there doesn't seem to be a shortage of skunk weed round my way, and that's supposed to be illegal. 

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what are you a daily mail reader, typical conservative party ploy, set sections of society on each other, deflecting attention away from their failings of our nation 

Daily Mail reader? Ha Ha!! Sorry, I nearly choked on my lard sandwich. So you reckon it's a Tory party ploy to create all these supersize me coke guzzling fatties? You don't think that people make their own minds up what to shovel in their mouths? Some people just love to blame anybody other than take a bit of responsibility for themselves.

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Great reply, now let me get back to my ten course lunch 

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