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This may be a merger from the 'Will the real' thread.....but breaking news on Simon Soussan, the notorious, creative and often misunderstood character from the 70's.

He is alive and well. Ian Levine disclosed information to me a short while ago and it's pretty conclusive. I too have exchanged emails with the man.

Updates as we get them......

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This may be a merger from the 'Will the real' thread.....but breaking news on Simon Soussan, the notorious, creative and often misunderstood character from the 70's.

He is alive and well. Ian Levine disclosed information to me a short while ago and it's pretty conclusive. I too have exchanged emails with the man.

Updates as we get them......

 

Are you allowed to divulge information on anybody in the witness protection programme?

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Get him to sign up on here, that would be fun…….

Steve- That clearly needs a lot of thought. Very few know him personally so it probably would turn into a witch hunt. On the positive side, once everybody got to know him and his character, methinks he would be well received.

One thing's for sure, we are talking about a very knowledgeable individual right up there with the best of them.

One snippet of news I can give you is he's still interested in vinyl. He mentioned to Ian that he's looking for a 45 on Bell by Curtis, The Brothers called When Love Goes Wrong on Bell.

Anyone have it for sale?

Hopefully I can cease playing messenger, but while we try and coax him into the arena I'm happy to offer snippets of interest to members.

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I'm far too young to know of Simon personally but have loved reading the stories about him from Frank(Ian) et al.  I love characters and rogues and he seems to me that he was just that, a rogue.  He didn't kill anyone, didn't rape anyone, etc.  He ripped people off, yes and those he ripped off had/have a right to be angry of course but it would be great if he could tell his side of the story one day whether it be here, in a book, documentary.  It won't happen on here though as people would just rip into him, same as they did with Ian Levine.  Both men were important figures in the history of northern soul, love em or hate em.  Don't let your hatred deny us younger ones the chance to hear/read/see the history of this great music and scene.

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Steve- That clearly needs a lot of thought. Very few know him personally so it probably would turn into a witch hunt. On the positive side, once everybody got to know him and his character, methinks he would be well received.

One thing's for sure, we are talking about a very knowledgeable individual right up there with the best of them.

One snippet of news I can give you is he's still interested in vinyl. He mentioned to Ian that he's looking for a 45 on Bell by Curtis, The Brothers called When Love Goes Wrong on Bell.

Anyone have it for sale?

Hopefully I can cease playing messenger, but while we try and coax him into the arena I'm happy to offer snippets of interest to members.

I've been reading about this guy on here...so interesting, a real character!

 

as for that record on Bell - I've got it. Its a Demo issue only, I think. 

Red text and a black text issue. 

 

The flip is a hot record called "you make everything better". I think its fairly expensive now. 

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This may be a merger from the 'Will the real' thread.....but breaking news on Simon Soussan, the notorious, creative and often misunderstood character from the 70's.

He is alive and well. Ian Levine disclosed information to me a short while ago and it's pretty conclusive. I too have exchanged emails with the man.

Updates as we get them......

Well done Kev

What a find... 

Atb

Stu

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One coming on my next list out 27th April - he can sign up for the list at www.soulstacks.com  :)

One snippet of news I can give you is he's still interested in vinyl. He mentioned to Ian that he's looking for a 45 on Bell by Curtis, The Brothers called When Love Goes Wrong on Bell.
Anyone have it for sale?
 

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Like a couple above, I'm far too young to know anything about SS, other than what I've been told over the years...but my golly he's left a legacy...

Great thread.,,

Mal.c

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Hi Kev be interesting to see if he has any of the old pressings left regards, Simon.

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Steve- That clearly needs a lot of thought. Very few know him personally so it probably would turn into a witch hunt. On the positive side, once everybody got to know him and his character, methinks he would be well received.

One thing's for sure, we are talking about a very knowledgeable individual right up there with the best of them.

One snippet of news I can give you is he's still interested in vinyl. He mentioned to Ian that he's looking for a 45 on Bell by Curtis, The Brothers called When Love Goes Wrong on Bell.

Anyone have it for sale?

Hopefully I can cease playing messenger, but while we try and coax him into the arena I'm happy to offer snippets of interest to members.

'Curtis, The Brothers' has been in-demand for at least fifteen years for the crossover side: the side SS is looking for is sort of weak white folk-pop. Good to know he still has his finger on the pulse.

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Had some great records off the man back in the day, only had my fingers burned once.

Apart from that one time was always straight with me, and boy has the man had some choice choons through his hands !!!

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He emailed me a few years back to correct me on something I'd said about him, got my facts wrong, that was when I an Levine did his forum

Did he call you 'Baby Boy'...

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The guy was/is a crook, bootlegging records, taking money and not sending records and nicking other peoples records. How anybody can paint him as some loveable rogue is beyond belief.

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I think it's very interesting he's around and I'd be glad to hear some genuine true stories but it's going to be incredibly hard to know if anything he says will be true. Unless he's had a major character transplant, it'll be smoke and mirrors and the gospel according to how he wants to portray it that week.

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The guy was/is a crook, bootlegging records, taking money and not sending records and nicking other peoples records. How anybody can paint him as some loveable rogue is beyond belief.

 

He's a born again Christian now Chris, all is forgiven…...apparently….all we need another has been harping on about the glory days…. :lol: Aren't there enough DVDs, interviews, talking heads etc. about this period already?  :shhh:

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The scene is as big as it's ever been with all the returnee's & new faces & guess what?
One of the biggest bootleggers the scene has ever known resurfaces.
Who'd have thought that eh :wicked:

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He's a born again Christian now Chris, all is forgiven…...apparently….all we need another has been harping on about the glory days…. :lol: Aren't there enough DVDs, interviews, talking heads etc. about this period already?  :shhh:

 

He's actually an orthodox Jew.

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The scene is as big as it's ever been with all the returnee's & new faces & guess what?

One of the biggest bootleggers the scene has ever known resurfaces.

Who'd have thought that eh :wicked:

Dear, dear, dear......still got all that anger!

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I think it's very interesting he's around and I'd be glad to hear some genuine true stories but it's going to be incredibly hard to know if anything he says will be true. Unless he's had a major character transplant, it'll be smoke and mirrors and the gospel according to how he wants to portray it that week.

Totally agree Ady, which is why I said to Ian.....tread carefully. Simon is new to social media. The whole criticism thing might scare him to death lol

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Hard to tell. He's fairly religious and its early days.

Religion is the last refuge of a scoundrel (to paraphrase Samuel Johnson), and a pretty good earner in some parts of the world.

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I think he would be made welcome as he was a part of this scene for so long, regardless of tricks,  he has a knowledge base that if he chose to share would enrich us all.  :thumbsup:

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I sincerely hope if SS joins the forum he is given respect, support and/or critical assessment as is the norm (without abuse).  

I would also like Ian Levine to make some contributions on here; their combined knowledge and experience would cast light into some of the shadows. Maybe both as Nom de plume? 

Just needs Kev to be very persuasive. :)

Atb

Stu

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The guy was/is a crook, bootlegging records, taking money and not sending records and nicking other peoples records. How anybody can paint him as some loveable rogue is beyond belief.

Think the bootlegging charge is one that can be levelled at a quite a few on this scene and they're still up to their tricks 40 years on, and probably more prolific than back in the day, what with Internet. 

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I think he's better off being slightly unreachable and enigmatic personally and I have the feeling he'll be perfectly happy with that. It suits him for a number of reasons I think. It's obvious he still has his taste for Northern Soul but also lots of other stuff too. Plus he's much more up-to-date with some below the radar singers then I am for sure, so he's still listening to lots of diverse stuff. I haven't communicated with him but he's thrown a few titles around, so the old fox is still active lol. I thought he was dead or in a Jewish version of a monastery or something....... :lol:

 

He did seem to want an MP3 of a song called "99 And A Half Wont Do" by a black girl group that I feel I should know but don't. Does that ring any bells with anyone on here (I don't think it's the Wilson Picket song....? :g:

 

Mind you, with a title like that, it could be another "Reaching For The Best" wind-up......... :lol:  

 

Ian D  :D

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I think he's better off being slightly unreachable and enigmatic personally and I have the feeling he'll be perfectly happy with that. It suits him for a number of reasons I think. It's obvious he still has his taste for Northern Soul but also lots of other stuff too. Plus he's much more up-to-date with some below the radar singers then I am for sure, so he's still listening to lots of diverse stuff. I haven't communicated with him but he's thrown a few titles around, so the old fox is still active lol. I thought he was dead or in a Jewish version of a monastery or something....... :lol:

He did seem to want an MP3 of a song called "99 And A Half Wont Do" by a black girl group that I feel I should know but don't. Does that ring any bells with anyone on here (I don't think it's the Wilson Picket song....? :g:

Mind you, with a title like that, it could be another "Reaching For The Best" wind-up......... :lol:

Ian D :D

I know the old break dance soundtrack has a song fitting the title , carol Lynn something on polydor ?? Simon had dealings with polydor I think ?

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I say well done Ian for finding him, personally for all the records he found, covered up etc I'd say he is responsible for a boat load of soul .

I hope he is well and will do some sort of interview :)

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I know the old break dance soundtrack has a song fitting the title , carol Lynn something on polydor ?? Simon had dealings with polydor I think ?

 

Yeah, that's probably the one dammit. Bloody awful but he likes brash bold songs........

 

Carol Lynn Townes "99 And A Half Won't Do"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvzV0RnEPf0

 

No wonder I couldn't place it lol.....

 

Well spotted that man!  :thumbsup:

 

Ian D  :D

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Yeah, that's probably the one dammit. Bloody awful but he likes brash bold songs........

Carol Lynn Townes "99 And A Half Won't Do"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvzV0RnEPf0

No wonder I couldn't place it lol.....

Well spotted that man! :thumbsup:

Ian D :D

Ok I own up, I have this on the flip of Chris the glove taylor 12" reckless.

Didn't know it was on the flip tho !

Collecting breaks n funk as well as soul music helped out here.

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First a london issue of Darrell Banks .......Now Simon Soussans been found........just needs Elvis to turn up and my lifes complete :yes:

 

First a london issue of Darrell Banks .......Now Simon Soussans been found........just needs Elvis to turn up and my lifes complete :yes:

Elvis to turn up ? i'm all shook up

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First a london issue of Darrell Banks .......Now Simon Soussans been found........just needs Elvis to turn up and my lifes complete :yes:

don´t forget the vocal to  6 x 6 :D

 

Steve

I am sure anything he says will be interesting,i remember hearing how he raised his moneies to go to the states in the first place,selling records he didn´t even have :ohmy:

Definately a charachter that is missed though and i am sure it would have been a different story if he hadn´t made a swift exit the night he turned up at Yate with his collection to sell :g::wicked:

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Think the bootlegging charge is one that can be levelled at a quite a few on this scene and they're still up to their tricks 40 years on, and probably more prolific than back in the day, what with Internet. 

 

For sure, doesn't excuse him though.

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Ian , Alton McLain did it in 79 and they were connected to the LA music scene ! I'd say that's the one Simon was after and probably in some way linked to the group Krystal ??

That makes even more sense. Yep, it's gotta be that one as he was at Polydor in that period with Arpeggio. Will You Tube it when I get to the office and check.....

Good call. The Carole Lynn Townes record was pushing it even for him lol.....

Ian D :)

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Thanks to Mr. Soussan, so many of the scene's best and most iconic records got booted so quickly that they were sometimes only played for a few weeks and then dropped.  I can't think that was a good thing.  We burned up a lot of great stuff so quickly.

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