Ljblanken Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) i just bought this. on Lloyd label (silver writing on black label). I got it cheaply and the seller said "it's probably fake anyway'.just wanted some info on it, as there's no listing for it under Helene Smith on "soulfulkindamusic"https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/hsmith.htmmaybe it's not a real release (boot of unreleased demo or something?)anyway, thanks! Edited July 29, 2015 by ljblanken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 "Controlled By Your Love"/ "Chills And Thrills" was a legitimate release for Helene.But... the record was bootlegged. Originals should be vinyl and have a "DUKOFF" (?) matrix. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 i just bought this. on Lloyd label (silver writing on black label). I got it cheaply and the seller said "it's probably fake anyway'.just wanted some info on it, as there's no listing for it under Helene Smith on "soulfulkindamusic"https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/hsmith.htmmaybe it's not a real release (boot of unreleased demo or something?)anyway, thanks! The bootleg is styrene with grubby sticked on labels while the original is vinyl with moulded labels. Both are black with silver lettering. bootleg: real one: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ljblanken Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 cool. thanks for info. will have to check when i get home. i think mine is boot...how much does legit one go for? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 The font on the vinyl ones always looks too modern to me. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Benson Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I just noticed the boot copy shows 'Side two' and the title says "I'm controlled..."Whereas the original doesn't state the side and the title this time says "I'am controlled..."Among other more obvious things! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ljblanken Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 The font on the vinyl ones always looks too modern to me.i agree! if i saw the two side by side i would guess the original is the boot (and vice versa) because of the font (and the misspelling John Benson points out) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Those Lloyd (Reid's, Deep City...) were all vinyls ! Common, the styrene looks totally wrong for a 1965 release. A misspelled title is rather common on originals... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Those Lloyd (Reid's, Deep City...) were all vinyls ! Common, the styrene looks totally wrong for a 1965 release. A misspelled title is rather common on originals... The font on the Paul Kelly looks very different from the Helene Smith orig. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Different but vinyl ! All those Miami pressing plants were... OK, it could have a West coast release (sequel of the Paul Kelly picked for national distribution by Dial), but this doesn't look right to me as an early 1965 USA release with "SIDE ONE" & "SIDE TWO" on it !? But if someone bought the styrene copy in 1965, I'll drop my case. The vinyl has never been suspicious to anybody I've met until this now. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 cool. thanks for info. will have to check when i get home. i think mine is boot...how much does legit one go for? I'd believe £50 or so for an Ex copy... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blake H Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Got outbid on the Helene Smith today Grrr, if one turns up on a dealers list any time soon could you give us a shout please? TIA Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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