Tfk Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) A nice little article/reference to NYC musician/record producer and PAP record label owner Patrick Adams . https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/aug/13/sources-the-pp-records-soul-and-disco-anthology-review tfk Edited August 14, 2015 by tfk 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Daved Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Thanks. Are you Hogwild on the Guardian website? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hi Daved love the Patrick Adams stuff - loads of goodies amoungst his catalogue .... Hogwild Defo not me haha Hey whatsya favourite PAP recording ? Best tfk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dean jj Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 same guardian: decline of night clubs article...some relevance to us toothless hags I think.dean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hi Daved love the Patrick Adams stuff - loads of goodies amoungst his catalogue .... Hogwild Defo not me haha Hey whatsya favourite PAP recording ? Best tfk For me probably Florence Miller - The Groove I'm In - P&P and also one of the prettiest labels as well (for that single) and I have always preferred the original P&P version of Four Below Zero - My Baby's Got ESP Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I sold this recently, Kick ass Funkler.. serious Wah Wah action, and all that.. the chap that started this thread said PAP, not P&P, are we all speaking about the same label here? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Daved Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hi Daved love the Patrick Adams stuff - loads of goodies amoungst his catalogue .... Hogwild Defo not me haha Hey whatsya favourite PAP recording ? Best tfk You mean there's another Guardian reader out there who likes this stuff? I's have to go for the obvious because it still sounds great to me - Four Below Zero Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Ivor Jones Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hi Daved love the Patrick Adams stuff - loads of goodies amoungst his catalogue .... Hogwild Defo not me haha Hey whatsya favourite PAP recording ? Best tfk Hello Andy….hope alls good for youI really like all these P&P related tunes: Disco A GoGo !Four Below Zero "My Babys Got ESP"[ I like both versions but I think I do prefer the Roulette version at a push]Rainbow Brown "Till you Surrender" [Vanguard]DayBreak "Everything Man" [P&P]…….. Of Course !Jessie Gould "Out Of Work" [P&P]Mary Clarke "Take Me Im Yours" [La Shawn]Jessie Henderson "I Did It Again" [Land Of Hits]Queen Yahna "Aint It Time" [ P&P]Plus those earlier Patrick Adams related things on Perception/Today, [Debbie Taylor, J.J.Barnes]All the best, Ivor Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 For me probably Florence Miller - The Groove I'm In - P&P and also one of the prettiest labels as well (for that single) and I have always preferred the original P&P version of Four Below Zero - My Baby's Got ESP great record John best A Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hello Andy….hope alls good for youI really like all these P&P related tunes: Disco A GoGo !Four Below Zero "My Babys Got ESP"[ I like both versions but I think I do prefer the Roulette version at a push]Rainbow Brown "Till you Surrender" [Vanguard]DayBreak "Everything Man" [P&P]…….. Of Course !Jessie Gould "Out Of Work" [P&P]Mary Clarke "Take Me Im Yours" [La Shawn]Jessie Henderson "I Did It Again" [Land Of Hits]Queen Yahna "Aint It Time" [ P&P]Plus those earlier Patrick Adams related things on Perception/Today, [Debbie Taylor, J.J.Barnes]All the best, Ivor Hello Andy….hope alls good for youI really like all these P&P related tunes: Disco A GoGo !Four Below Zero "My Babys Got ESP"[ I like both versions but I think I do prefer the Roulette version at a push]Rainbow Brown "Till you Surrender" [Vanguard]DayBreak "Everything Man" [P&P]…….. Of Course !Jessie Gould "Out Of Work" [P&P]Mary Clarke "Take Me Im Yours" [La Shawn]Jessie Henderson "I Did It Again" [Land Of Hits]Queen Yahna "Aint It Time" [ P&P]Plus those earlier Patrick Adams related things on Perception/Today, [Debbie Taylor, J.J.Barnes]All the best, Ivor hi Ivor hope your well - alls good at this end.... Great list there for sure . regards Andy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) You mean there's another Guardian reader out there who likes this stuff? I's have to go for the obvious because it still sounds great to me - Four Below Zerostill like 4 below zero ? used to read The Worksop Guardian but it's just The Guardian now Edited August 17, 2015 by tfk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
1978 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) PAP stands for Patrick Adams Productions and P&P stands for Peter Brown and Patricia Gilyard. It was started way before Patrick Adams came into the picture. Patrick met Peter through Lonnie Johnson of Scorpgemi Records.Patrick Adams did not do Florence Miller - The Groove I'm In. Edited August 18, 2015 by 1978 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
1978 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 A killer and slept on Patrick Adams tune is The Eight Minutes - Looking For A Brand New Game. The flip is good too! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Daybreak - I Need Love is my favourite. One of my favourite records full stop. Peter 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 A killer and slept on Patrick Adams tune is The Eight Minutes - Looking For A Brand New Game. The flip is good too!Which shares the intro (at least) with David Martin "You"re Mighty Right" Love em both Cheers Paul 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Of Newark Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 How about Caress' cover of Pete Warner's I Just Want To Spend My Life With You from their 1977 self titled LP 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Daved Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Daybreak - I Need Love is my favourite. One of my favourite records full stop. PeterI'm more of an Everything Man type of guy 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'm more of an Everything Man type of guyYep that's a great record too Dave but love the flip. It's always been a favourite ever since Dickie was spinning it as Tyrone Edwards.P 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 hi I sold this recently, Kick ass Funkler.. serious Wah Wah action, and all that.. the chap that started this thread said PAP, not P&P, are we all speaking about the same label here? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) How about Caress' cover of Pete Warner's I Just Want To Spend My Life With You from their 1977 self titled LP Mmmm not sure what happened there ? How about Caress' cover of Pete Warner's I Just Want To Spend My Life With You from their 1977 self titled LP A good shout there Ady of Newark and you took the words right out of my mouth with The Caress album and the group version of Pete Warner ,The Caress also includes another vocal to "Ronnie Love " Almeria biggie - which if my memory serves me both versions were played at that infamous WC allnight discotheque and talking of "Ronnie Love " on Almeria Records don't forget The Magnetic Touch and The Universal Robot Bands versions too...PA goodies!!! Edited August 18, 2015 by tfk 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 HURTXCD137 Sources: The P&P Records Soul & Disco Anthologyhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012BMOK9Q/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_d1_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=desktop-4&pf_rd_r=0HBAYBSEAY92Z9F1ZRDQ&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=577048687&pf_rd_i=desktopCD1 1. Superstition - Dennis Mobley & Fresh Taste Original Club 12" Mix 07:472. (Let’s Just) Stay Away - Louise Murray Original Club 12" Mix 06:183. Spank Me - Bobby Mann Original Club 12" Mix 03:314. Pound For Pound - Le’o Roy Original Club 12" Mix 04:265. The Guardian Angel Is Watching Over Us - The Golden Flamingo Orchestra ft Margo Williams Original Club 12" Mix 06:516. Gotta Get Your Love - Gary Davis Original Kenny Dope Remix 03:417. Charlie's Angels - Oral Caress Original Club 12" Edit 07:288. Charleston Hopscotch - Cloud One Original Album Version 06:179. Get Down - Rudy Stuart Original Club 12" Mix 05:4610. Robot Dance - Marvin Wright Original Club 12" Mix 08:3311. You've Been Hunchin' All Night (And Can't Get It Right) - Catherine Miller Original Club 12" Mix 04:5812. Got You Dancing - Karisma ft Jocelyn Brown Original Club 12" Mix 05:1713. It's So Good To Know - Best Friend Around Original Club 12" Mix 07:00 CD2 1. Atmosphere Strutt - Cloud One Original Club 12" Mix 08:082. Got To Have Your Love - Clyde Alexander & Sanction Original Club 12" Mix 09:393. Dance, Dance, Dance - Marta Acuna Original Club 12" Mix 06:134. Out Of Work - Jesse Gould Original Club 12" Mix 06:265. Johnson Jumpin’ - Johnson Products Original Club 12" Mix 06:006. 25 Hours - Lanier Original Club 12" Mix 06:007. Patti Duke - Cloud One Original Club 12" Mix 05:218. Super-Jay Love Theme - Super-Jay Original Club 12" Mix 07:309. Rock, Spank, Freak - High Voltage Original Club 12" Mix 10:5710. Stereo Funk - Darrow & Stereo Original Club 12" Mix 04:5011. Disco Juice - Cloud One Original Club 12" Mix 06:56 CD3 1. Dance Freak - Chain Reaction Original Club 12" Mix 06:422. Magic Carpet - High Fidelity Original Club 12" Mix 05:383. New York's Movin' - Ahzz Original Club 12" Mix 07:524. Don't Let My Rainbow Pass Me By - Cloud One ft Margo Williams Original Club 12" Mix 04:395. I Did It Again - Jesse Henderson Original Club 12" Mix 07:276. Take Me I'm Yours - Mary Clark Original Club 12" Mix 06:567. Turn Up Your Radio - Kessler Original Club 12" Mix 04:468. We Are Making Music - Michael Campbell & High Volt Original Club 12" Mix 06:449. Flying High Pt 2 - Cloud One Original Club 12" Mix 04:2810. African Rock - Licky Original Club 12" Mix 06:1711. Funky Track - Cloud One Original Club 12" Mix 07:0512. Everything Man - Daybreak Original 7" Single Mix 03:1813. God Save And Protect All The Children - Margo Williams Original Club 12" Mix 05:57 HURTXCD138 Sources: The P&P Records Funk & Rap Anthologyhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012BMOKZ0/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_d1_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=desktop-4&pf_rd_r=0HBAYBSEAY92Z9F1ZRDQ&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=577048687&pf_rd_i=desktopCD1 1. Ain’t It Time - Queen Yahna Original Club 12" Mix 03:532. Black Ice - Sons Of Darkness Original 7" Mix 02:253. I’ve Been Working - Wild Honey Original 7" Mix 03:224. Shake Off That Dream - Eddie Owen Original 7" Mix 03:005. The Groove I’m In - Florence Miller Original 7" Mix 02:556. Here’s To You - Ella Hamilton Original Club 12" Mix 05:247. NY Applejack - Scott Davis & The Movements Original Album Version 07:278. Who’s Gonna - Otis Turner Original Album Version 03:139. I’m Coming Back To Life Again - Florence Miller Original 7" Mix 03:0010. The Greatest Debt To My Mother - Henry Brooks Original 7" Mix 02:1211. It’s Party Time With Getting In The Groove Pt 2 - Sentimental Souls Original 7" Mix 02:0712. Long Time Ago (But I Wish Today Was Yesterday) - Smokie Brook Original 7" Mix 02:1113. Freaktime - Scott Davis & The Movements Original Club 12" Mix 03:5114. I Believe In Love - Florence Miller Original 7" Mix 02:5115. Do The Funky Donkey - Otis Turner & The Mighty Kingpins Original 7" Mix 03:2216. Feel The Spirit - Foster Jackson Group Original Club 12" Mix 04:0117. Dance To The Music Freakout - Wayne Forde & Stereo Original Club 12" Mix 13:1918. God’s Greatest Gift To Man Is A Woman - Margie Lomax Original Club 12" Mix 05:10 CD2 1. School'n (Put Your Mind To The Message) - Sherod Original Club 12" Mix 07:302. Family Rap - Family Original Club 12" Mix 06:563. Tricky Tee Rap - Troy Rainey Original Club 12" Mix 07:054. Spoonin Rap - Spoonin G Original Club 12" Mix 06:595. Death Rap - Margo’s Kool Out Crew Original Club 12" Mix 04:366. A Game Of Life - Lavaba & E. Mallison Original Club 12" Mix 04:367. Boogie Feelin’ Rap - Sweet G Original Club 12" Mix 08:188. Scoopy Rap - Scoopy Original Club 12" Mix 04:539. Willie Rap - Willie Wood & Willie Wood Crew Original Club 12" Mix 05:5910. Fly Guy Rap - Fly Guy Original Club 12" Mix 04:0011. Equidity Funk - Mistafide Original Club 12" Mix 11:20 CD3 1. Roller Rink Funk - Shift Original Club 12" Mix 04:372. Big Foot Boogie - Brisko The Kidd Original Club 12" Mix 04:193. This Is The Way You Do The Breakdance - Super Coper & Clarence Breakers Original Club 12" Mix 08:414. One Time Two Time Blow Your Mind - (MC) Rock Lovely Original Club 12" Mix 04:405. Win Jesse Win - Stack Original Club 12" Mix 04:306. Sweet Naomi Rap - Naomi Peterson Original Club 12" Mix 06:467. CC Crew Rap - CC Crew Original Club 12" Mix 11:048. Roller Rooster Rap Dance - Fresh Female Original Club 12" Mix 05:049. It’s Rough - The Imperial Three Original Club 12" Mix 05:1710. Hip Shaker - Two Hype Original Club 12" Mix 03:5911. Gangster Rock - Little Starski Original Club 12" Mix 07:4212. Smooth Talk - Mr Fox Original Club 12" Mix 07:5013. Shout At The Disco - Little Scotty Original Club 12" Mix 05:01Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
1978 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Which shares the intro (at least) with David Martin "You"re Mighty Right" Love em both Cheers Paul Just asked Patrick Adams. This is what he said:"I have never heard that record before in my life. Sounds like they had access to the original 24trk master, stripped it down and rebuilt a new track over it. I'm speechless"Then I looked up the producer of David Martin and it's a producer / songwriter / label owner named Jim Porter who actually managed The Eight Minutes! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sunnysoul Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 HURTXCD137 Sources: The P&P Records Soul & Disco Anthology Ian D A broad range of musical styles and beats on that anthology but in truth little to enthuse the (rare) soul and funk crowd.Any prospect of a collection concentrating on the soul/funk side of P & P ? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Just asked Patrick Adams. This is what he said:"I have never heard that record before in my life. Sounds like they had access to the original 24trk master, stripped it down and rebuilt a new track over it. I'm speechless"Then I looked up the producer of David Martin and it's a producer / songwriter / label owner named Jim Porter who actually managed The Eight Minutes!thanks for the info 1978 - will pull out The Eight Minutes album and have a closer listen - I wonder if Patrick Adams has a discography of his work ? Any of his music/product that was recorded and never actually saw the light of day - i would guess there is 100s of tracks that never made it past this stage ? PS would love to know who some of the groups consisted of ? Daybreak,Caress, 8 Minutes ,Magnetic Touch ,The Reasons to Live ? etc ...just to mention a few .... the list is endless, are there any photos about of these groups ? - I recall being told that Daybreak was destined to be released on the Prelude Records (NYC ) label ? Did it make it to a demo release ? tfk tfk Edited August 21, 2015 by tfk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 A broad range of musical styles and beats on that anthology but in truth little to enthuse the (rare) soul and funk crowd.Any prospect of a collection concentrating on the soul/funk side of P & P ?Certain things couldn't be included due to legal issues and some things that were thought to be P&P owned turned out not be P&P owned. There's almost zero documentation on much of the stuff so this is pretty much the best we could do under the circumstances. Bill Brewster compiled these mainly for the Disco collectors and crate-diggers audiences to be fair......Ian D 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Just asked Patrick Adams. This is what he said:"I have never heard that record before in my life. Sounds like they had access to the original 24trk master, stripped it down and rebuilt a new track over it. I'm speechless"Then I looked up the producer of David Martin and it's a producer / songwriter / label owner named Jim Porter who actually managed The Eight Minutes!Brilliant research 1978 You"re my favourite year !!!!! Cheers Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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