Patto Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Hi GuysRecently J.M Auctioned off a Demo copy of Johnny Sayes--My Loves a monster.In the sales notes he explained that the real ones in both issue and demo are identified from the counterfeit by the matrix number being upside down.Now in discussion with a couple of people i have had differing opinions on what upside down actually is on the run out.So i have taken a pic of my copys marix looking from outside edge in.Could someone please tell me if its a good un or not.PATTO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 The printing looks very suspect to me ... compared to this one anyway ... ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Generally when you look at a matrix number it reads and faces out towards the run-in. Edited August 28, 2015 by Chris L Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Patto Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 The printing looks very suspect to me ... compared to this one anyway ... ?Do you own that copy and if so which way up is the matrix as according to Manship that feature is the deciding factor Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 No not mine , I was judging on the rather amateurish letter spacing an rounded corners on your copy ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Nice ballad flip btwCheers Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Patto Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Can anyone please tell me if my copy in first post is a legit original,would really like confirmation either way.someone must know for certain out there.Didnt pay much for it but need to know before playing or selling it if it goes in the boot box or originals box. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I'd say it's a boot ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Patto Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Interesting so what do we make of post 20 on that thread you linked,confusing to say the least.Any other opinions guys please Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Interesting so what do we make of post 20 on that thread you linked,confusing to say the least.Any other opinions guys pleaseYours has 7T's typo. So it's a 7T's thing. Either way a bootleg or a second issue. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Patto Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Yours has 7T's typo. So it's a 7T's thing. Either way a bootleg or a second issue.Ok thanks for that so the boots also have the upside down matrix as in my photo.One to kick in the boot box then.Cheers for that Edited August 28, 2015 by Patto Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kris Holmes Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I bought a copy off Midas Touch exactly the same as the original post which was sold as an original. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ok thanks for that so the boots also have the upside down matrix as in my photo.One to kick in the boot box then.Cheers for thatDugged mine out about that "upside-down" matrix and yes it's matching yours and yes, mine is not the real thing... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Did it ever come out on that yellow Chi-Town ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Did it ever come out on that yellow Chi-Town ?No, white promos (a tad harder than the issue) and dark blue only. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hi GuysRecently J.M Auctioned off a Demo copy of Johnny Sayes--My Loves a monster.In the sales notes he explained that the real ones in both issue and demo are identified from the counterfeit by the matrix number being upside down.Now in discussion with a couple of people i have had differing opinions on what upside down actually is on the run out.So i have taken a pic of my copys marix looking from outside edge in.Could someone please tell me if its a good un or not.PATTOSorry Patto its the boot You are lookin' at it from the wrong angle ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Patto Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 TSorry Patto its the boot You are lookin' at it from the wrong angle !Thanks Kev story of my life always coming in at the wrong angle.It appears that many people own the boot and dont realise so im just glad to clarify mine.Its not a big expensive tune at least and ill sell it as a boot 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 TThanks Kev story of my life always coming in at the wrong angle.It appears that many people own the boot and dont realise so im just glad to clarify mine.Its not a big expensive tune at least and ill sell it as a bootIf it's any consolation Craig Moerer has sold boots as originals, so lots of people get duped by the inverted matrix bit. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 If it's any consolation Craig Moerer has sold boots as originals, so lots of people get duped by the inverted matrix bit.He once sold me a bunch of Johnny Sayles - Can't get enough - thinking they were re-issues and in fact they were originals (was a very, very long time ago) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 He once sold me a bunch of Johnny Sayles - Can't get enough - thinking they were re-issues and in fact they were originals (was a very, very long time ago)He's obviously confused then! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 He's obviously confused then! It was a very long time ago, they were demos where the "DJ Copy" had been scratched off the label. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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