Is this the rarest record of all time?

[Quinvy]

I don't know who put this up on you tube. But as far as I'm aware there has only ever been one copy of this ever turned up? Guy H spin, then TIm Brown had it and sold it because he didn't like it. Haven't got a clue who owns it now. I tried to find out when I was running Burnley.

In fact I remember now, someone told me the name of the current owner, but said he would never part with it.

Anyone know any more?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=1iN1UYIRA_U

 

[Dobber]

wow that is weird,i was chasing around the internet yesterday looking for this,but couldnt find it,absolutely no info on the tune either other than,guy h had it and then it move hands!

i must admit i was expecting something a bit more special,bit of a damp sqib really,raritie over quality here i reckon!

[jimmy clitheroe]

I like it , there far worse ihmo ...Paul

[Quinvy]

I think played out, it could sound good.

Apparently it was originally a Pat Brady spin, covered as the "Twans"

[Dobber]

upon research there are 2 releases by this person/group?

do we know if its acetate or release?

[Dobber]

also on a seperate note,whilst trying to find a soundfile of contessa (to no avale) so well done for finding it and posting it! i cant find a soundfile on another raritie...traditions-on fire-artco..can you do your magic and find that one too?

Edited December 1, 2015 by dobber

[tosspot]

another 45 I've been chasing for bloody yrs , I just love it

[Arthur Fenn]

long may it stay rare 

[Chalky]

John Parker certainly has the other by them.  It is on Las Bar or something like that, both records by them are.  I have a sound file of this bout the same quality of the youtube clip,  and the Traditions.

[Peter99]

It's alright.

Nowt to write home about though. 

 

 

[exte82]

There are plenty of "one known copy" rares and much better than this.

Edited December 1, 2015 by exte82

[Dobber]

37 minutes ago, chalky said:

John Parker certainly has the other by them.  It is on Las Bar or something like that, both records by them are.  I have a sound file of this bout the same quality of the youtube clip,  and the Traditions.

wouldnt mind hearing the traditions tune?

[Quinvy]

18 minutes ago, dobber said:

wouldnt mind hearing the traditions tune?

It's mental, 200mph. 

[Sunnysoul]

2 hours ago, dobber said:

upon research there are 2 releases by this person/group?

do we know if its acetate or release?

 At least 2 groups with that name. The group on E Records was white. The group on WGW Records were black  ( Mary Bivins Perry, Phyllis Stateman, Joyce (Stateman) Walker, Toni Stateman ).

 

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3T9wqxKyRE

 

 

[Quinvy]

As far as I'm aware it's not "The Contessas" it's "The Contessa"

[Quinvy]

2 hours ago, dobber said:

upon research there are 2 releases by this person/group?

do we know if its acetate or release?

Release.

[Sunnysoul]

3 minutes ago, Quinvy said:

As far as I'm aware it's not "The Contessas" it's "The Contessa"

Good bit of research though !!!! lol

[Quinvy]

30 minutes ago, dobber said:

wouldnt mind hearing the traditions tune?

I only know Andy Killick that owns one, and I can't see him putting a sound file out for everyone to have.

[grant]

Great tune

[Andy Rix]

It's ... Contessa ... Need You Baby ...Las-Bar 0001

Andy

 

[Dazz]

1 hour ago, dobber said:

wouldnt mind hearing the traditions tune?

One went through eBay in the last few days finished at $2375

[Simon T]

1 hour ago, Quinvy said:

As far as I'm aware it's not "The Contessas" it's "The Contessa"

 

[Frankie Crocker]

The rarest record of all time can theoretically only exist as a single copy. I would imagine there are several records that have only survived as an 'only known copy' but proving this is nigh on impossible. Probably best to regard anything particularly rare or unobtainable as 'probably fewer than ten copies suspected to exist'.

[Tai-pan]

3 hours ago, Quinvy said:

I only know Andy Killick that owns one, and I can't see him putting a sound file out for everyone to have.

Only for you Phil, Its too sacred for the masses just yet. The contessa, "i need you baby" again, just for you only at this time.

You just need to ask.

Our new cohort, need to discover them for them selves.

[Amsterdam Russ]

Aren't there countless one-copy-known acetates out there that ought to be considered equally as rare - if not rarer – than "the rarest record of all time"?

Come to that, and excluding acetates, did any label ever actually press just one copy of anything?*

* excluding the alleged one-off gimmicky press of a hyped record a few years ago that was supposedly held securely in a vault in Morocco or somewhere similar!

[Chalky]

6 hours ago, Quinvy said:

I only know Andy Killick that owns one, and I can't see him putting a sound file out for everyone to have.

Traditions, I know or knew of three or four copies.

[Marc Forrest]

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Edited December 2, 2015 by Marc Forrest

[Quinvy]

7 hours ago, chalky said:

Traditions, I know or knew of three or four copies.

I wasn't saying that Andy's was the only copy. I was just saying that it was the only one I knew of Chalky.

[Quinvy]

11 hours ago, Tai-Pan said:

Only for you Phil, Its too sacred for the masses just yet. The contessa, "i need you baby" again, just for you only at this time.

You just need to ask.

Our new cohort, need to discover them for them selves.

No worries Andy. I agree with you entirely. It's too easy to obtain sound files of these rare records, and devalues going out to hear them.

I am amazed that you have managed to obtain a copy of "Contessa" well done mate. 

Hope all is well with you. 

[Rob Wigley]

Stomper !

[Pomonkey]

That Contessa is really solid, nice find.  

As of now 3 of my little group of music friends here each have copies of the Traditions on Artco if that helps add up the # around.

 

Edited December 2, 2015 by pomonkey

[Ficklefingers]

23 hours ago, jimmy clitheroe said:

I like it , there far worse ihmo ...Paul

I liked it too..  although I don't recall having ever heard it previously.  But knowing me, I PROBABLY HAVE !! (several times too, no doubt) - I'm just not in possession of sufficient brain cells these days to be able to remember

It immediately reminded me of No No Starr's 'Swing Your Love My Way' (to these cloth ears at least) sharing several similarities I think.. both in arrangement and vocal (delivery)  

Mind you.. I, for one, would DEFFO part with some of my hard earned ££'s if a copy were to be offered.

Provided ONLY that its sale price was reflective of the aforementioned Midas 45 (of course)

 

[Koolkat]

Yep.I like it.

[Gold Band]

On 01/12/2015, 23:42:41, simon t said:

 

Got to say Simon I do Like the Flip Breakaway

Kirsty

[Simon T]

1 hour ago, Gold Band said:

Got to say Simon I do Like the Flip Breakaway

Kirsty

It's not the flip, it's the next release, which they're a few of.

[Quinvy]

2 hours ago, simon t said:

It's not the flip, it's the next release, which they're a few of.

Do you have a copy Simon?

[Chalky]

Breakaway is John Parker's old Clydie King cover up, well I think it was CK. It's been on eBay as well if I remember rightly. 

[Ted Massey]

Mark Oliver from Gloucester bought Breakaway of eBay quite cheap in think and I think sold it to John, I was offered it but found it a bit boring to be honest

[Chalky]

1 hour ago, Ted Massey said:

Mark Oliver from Gloucester bought Breakaway of eBay quite cheap in think and I think sold it to John, I was offered it but found it a bit boring to be honest

Been on ebay or for sale somewhere else since John had it, last three or four years.

[John Parker]

Afternoon All

Had the Contessa record covered as Clydie King...

A second copy came up for sale..Im presuming thats the one Ted is talking about which I bought..

I have heard of one other copy

I put a copy for sale on here ..I think thats the one Chalky is referring to but decided not to sell it in the end..I think the sound file is the one I did at the time

 

For me its one of those records that sounds fine at home but really brought to life on a big system.

Big favorite at York Soul club..and had some play at the back end of Stafford

 

IMO..Just right for now..as they say

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2015 by john parker

[Cover-up]

On 2 December 2015 01:35:12, Russell Gilbert said:

 

Come to that, and excluding acetates, did any label ever actually press just one copy of anything?*

* excluding the alleged one-off gimmicky press of a hyped record a few years ago that was supposedly held securely in a vault in Morocco or somewhere similar!

Can't think of any reason why a soul label would issue ONE 45, an acetate would make sense for a one-off but pressing a single, err, single would be really expensive.

Earlier this year a post-punk band the Sexual Objects (featuring Davy Henderson of the Fire Engines and Win) pressed one copy of their album and auctioned it, along with the rights to the recording:

https://www.popsike.com/THE-SEXUAL-OBJECTS-ALBUM-33RPM-MARSHMALLOW-LP-2015-EXCLUSIVE-RIGHTS-FOREVER/161560983500.html

 

[Chalky]

@guyh you right be able to help with some of the history of the Contessa mate

[Frankie Crocker]

1 hour ago, cover-up said:

Can't think of any reason why a soul label would issue ONE 45, an acetate would make sense for a one-off but pressing a single, err, single would be really expensive.

 

 

Maybe only one record survived from a test run? Did the pressing plants do a trial press first but on a demonstration copy? Perhaps the run was halted as the labels were reversed or the records off-centre. Evidently, plenty of records were disposed of, most notably Frank Wilson, so now there exists the possibility that there are only single copies of some releases in existence. Are there any pressing plant operatives out there with a story to tell? Must be cases of machines breaking down, running out of vinyl, air bubbles in the vinyl etc resulting in odd copies being put on top shelves...

[Amsterdam Russ]

6 hours ago, cover-up said:

Can't think of any reason why a soul label would issue ONE 45, an acetate would make sense for a one-off but pressing a single, err, single would be really expensive.

Earlier this year a post-punk band the Sexual Objects (featuring Davy Henderson of the Fire Engines and Win) pressed one copy of their album and auctioned it, along with the rights to the recording:

https://www.popsike.com/THE-SEXUAL-OBJECTS-ALBUM-33RPM-MARSHMALLOW-LP-2015-EXCLUSIVE-RIGHTS-FOREVER/161560983500.html

 

Wu-Tang Clan - from a year and a half ago...

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2014/05/06/unlocking-the-wu-tang-clans-secret-album-in-morocco/

[Guyh]

10 hours ago, chalky said:

@guyh you right be able to help with some of the history of the Contessa mate

Eyup Chalky, as far as I know... Pat Brady played it first at Wigan maybe '79-80 then Mark Linton bought it, I think that was Pats copy, and I got it off Mark for swops, back end of Stafford time. I sold it late 80's I think, can't remember who to...I didn't cut a dub to keep either. Cheers, G

[Quinvy]

Then Tim Brown got it, didn't like it, and sold it on. 

[Cover-up]

16 hours ago, Russell Gilbert said:

Wu-Tang Clan - from a year and a half ago...

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2014/05/06/unlocking-the-wu-tang-clans-secret-album-in-morocco/

As far as I'm aware, Wu Tang didn't actually make anything though. Think they planned on selling it first (for something like a million dollars) and THEN they'd present it in a gold-plated box. Not even sure if it was a record, but the amount of work you need to go to, to produce ONE record is massive. Not gluing a label onto a test pressing, but actually printing labels and pressing them onto the vinyl. Jean Michel Jarre has made a one-off too...

 

**just read the link you supplied, yes, it's a box - no record yet!

Edited December 5, 2015 by cover-up

[Amsterdam Russ]

46 minutes ago, cover-up said:

As far as I'm aware, Wu Tang didn't actually make anything though. Think they planned on selling it first (for something like a million dollars) and THEN they'd present it in a gold-plated box. Not even sure if it was a record, but the amount of work you need to go to, to produce ONE record is massive. Not gluing a label onto a test pressing, but actually printing labels and pressing them onto the vinyl. Jean Michel Jarre has made a one-off too...

 

**just read the link you supplied, yes, it's a box - no record yet!

Not a record, but a CD...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2015/11/24/wu-tang-clan-secret-album-sold-by-paddle8-but-to-whom/

[Angus]

Good evening

Ref The record, an old mate of mine is sat on a copy-had it for years-hes a group collector and deliberately keeps himself "under the radar" so to speak-saw him the other week and had a few beers with him and it sounded a lot better after a skinfull!!

Not a particurlarly great record but might sound ok if you are in a club and firing on full cylinders if you know what I mean!!!!