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11 hours ago, shufflin said:

I can't explain it but I've been going through a Jackie Wilson phase recently, I just think his sounds have aged very well and just sound SO good

 

Why did Jackie not sign for motown?

Jackie was managed by Nat Tarnapol (who also took over the reins at Brunswick) whom Berry Gordy had previously worked for as a songwriter. Jackie was Nats flagship artist. Nat was very well connected (if you know what I mean), and neither Berry nor Jackie thought it would be a good idea to try to mess with Nats meal ticket. Plus, Jackie did pretty well financially with Nat, although many of the songwriters had their royalties diverted or outright stolen.

I loved his dancing............

Ed

 

 

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6 hours ago, tomangoes said:

Why did Jackie not sign for motown?

Jackie was managed by Nat Tarnapol (who also took over the reins at Brunswick) whom Berry Gordy had previously worked for as a songwriter. Jackie was Nats flagship artist. Nat was very well connected (if you know what I mean), and neither Berry nor Jackie thought it would be a good idea to try to mess with Nats meal ticket. Plus, Jackie did pretty well financially with Nat, although many of the songwriters had their royalties diverted or outright stolen.

 

 

This came up in another thread recently:

 

Can only add that another reason why Jackie Wilson got "stuck" in Chicago is that he seemed to be avoiding his ex-wife in New York, where he would have preferred to record, because she was after him for alimony - this according to Carl Davis. The material on Tarnapol doesn't paint him in a rosy light, but Jackie was certainly a meal ticket for someone - Davis tells the story of Jackie being held by his ankles out of a skyscraper window, and as for his finances, it seems that various fellow artists were involved in paying for his medical care, funeral and burial. Sadly, while Jackie's account did well with Nat, he had very restricted access.

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On 11/14/2017 at 10:28, tomangoes said:

Why did Jackie not sign for motown?

Jackie was managed by Nat Tarnapol (who also took over the reins at Brunswick) whom Berry Gordy had previously worked for as a songwriter. Jackie was Nats flagship artist. Nat was very well connected (if you know what I mean), and neither Berry nor Jackie thought it would be a good idea to try to mess with Nats meal ticket. Plus, Jackie did pretty well financially with Nat, although many of the songwriters had their royalties diverted or outright stolen.

I loved his dancing............

Ed

 

 

Despite buying it several years ago i just got round to reading Lonely Teardrops - The Jackie Wilson Story by Tony Douglas. His relationship with Tarnopol and the Mob are well documented and as a result of this, Jackie wasnt in control of his own finances. His shocking death and events after it are, to say the least, harrowing. Its probably the best, but most upsetting, biography ive ever read. Anyone with even the slightest interest in him will find it a fascinating read.

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I remember visiting the Ritz in Brighouse for the first time around 20 years ago and I heard a track that night I'd never heard before, it hit me sideways I just had to get it the next day and I've loved it ever since. 'What More Could A Boy Ask For' by The Spinners. Honourable mention too to the most requested track at my Friday night gig over the last 12 months - 'My Love Is Your Love (Forever)' by The Isley Brothers which someone introduced to me and blew me away. It sums up Tamla Motown perfectly for me.

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Since my teens I have been a big fan of practically ALL the 70's stuff by Marvin and The Tempts and also a big fan of ALL the stuff (60's and 70's) by Stevie Wonder. But If I should to select "ONE" track, this one is the Motown track I have heard thousand of times, from one of my favorite albums by Jerry Butler ("Love's On The Menu", the other J.B. favorite album is also from Motown, the next album called "Suite For The Single Girl"). Fromm 1976, the great leon Ware production - songwriting work, Jerry Butler's "Thank You Early Bird":

 

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Tammi Terrell- This Old Heart Of Mine, first heard it played at a youth club when I was about 14, it alerted me to the fact that there was more to Motown than I was hearing on Top Of The Pops! Never looked back since!

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Going to put this up, I've got the demo( but it's in my number 6 box so not heard it for years,I think i will have to move it).

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9 hours ago, Bruv said:

  Fabulous Tamla from the Isley Brothers - Behind A Painted Smile  

The other side's (in the UK) a far better piece of soul music IMO.
Dx
 

 

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