Gointoagogo Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 This is currently sitting at £1750 on Tim Brown's auction with an hour to go. It seems extremely high to me (100+% above price you would expect?) Is it one of those that's flavour of the month? Am I right in thinking that on these auctions the bids don't go up in increments - so If I put a bid in now of £2000 and no ne else had a bid then I would get it at £2000 even though previous high bid was £1750? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Yes - they are blind auctions - somebody could bid a tenner and you could bid a grand - and you would win at a grand ... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gointoagogo Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Premium Stuff said: Yes - they are blind auctions - somebody could bid a tenner and you could bid a grand - and you would win at a grand ... Frightening! I know I pay over the odds occasionally but I could never see me getting involved in a blind auction. The last I saw of this Appreciations record it was at £1810 - Admittedly it's a fantastic oldie (but not an overplayed oldie), but £1.8k?? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kelboy Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Sold mine for £35, it was 1980 though 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Theothertosspot Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, KELBOY said: Sold mine for £35, it was 1980 though With inflation thats about £105 now! Edited July 30, 2016 by theothertosspot Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 18 hours ago, Premium Stuff said: Yes - they are blind auctions - somebody could bid a tenner and you could bid a grand - and you would win at a grand ... You would be unwise to contest an auction of this sort in the age of eBay. Blind auctions were OK pre-eBay but are now outmoded. Unless there is a record that you absolutely must have regardless of rarity, cost or condition, blind auctions are best avoided. A bit of patience will be rewarded in the future by steering clear of blind auctions and awaiting a set-sale or incremental-bid auction. John Manship's auction records may be a tad pricier than similar records elsewhere but the bid-system used is completely transparent and fair to all involved. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Anyone know how much the Tiaras went for (same auction) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, FRANKIE CROCKER said: You would be unwise to contest an auction of this sort in the age of eBay. Blind auctions were OK pre-eBay but are now outmoded. Unless there is a record that you absolutely must have regardless of rarity, cost or condition, blind auctions are best avoided. A bit of patience will be rewarded in the future by steering clear of blind auctions and awaiting a set-sale or incremental-bid auction. John Manship's auction records may be a tad pricier than similar records elsewhere but the bid-system used is completely transparent and fair to all involved. There's no such thing as a fair auction. If you don't like the way it's run, then don't get involved. How many times have I had a snipe on a record on ebay which has been pulled because somebody offered the seller a huge amount of money to do so? Shill bidding is rife. At one time you could spot it easily, but ebay have made it impossible to see who is bidding these days. You can't even check what people have been buying on their feedback anymore. Edited July 30, 2016 by Quinvy 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Tiaras was £4205 Mick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 8 hours ago, Mick Holdsworth said: Anyone know how much the Tiaras went for (same auction) £4250 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 8 hours ago, Quinvy said: There's no such thing as a fair auction. If you don't like the way it's run, then don't get involved. How many times have I had a snipe on a record on ebay which has been pulled because somebody offered the seller a huge amount of money to do so? Shill bidding is rife. At one time you could spot it easily, but ebay have made it impossible to see who is bidding these days. You can't even check what people have been buying on their feedback anymore. Maybe, but some auctions are fairer than others. If both buyer and seller are satisfied with the final bid then that counts as a fair auction. You are right to be alert to shill bidding as this occurs but is usually detectable. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, FRANKIE CROCKER said: Maybe, but some auctions are fairer than others. If both buyer and seller are satisfied with the final bid then that counts as a fair auction. You are right to be alert to shill bidding as this occurs but is usually detectable. But I'm sure the winners of the records on Tim's auction will be highly delighted, as will Tim. It's impossible to tell who is bidding on eBay auctions now. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 17 hours ago, dave pinch said: £4250 Thanks Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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