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Peter99

TV Buffs and Theme From the Coloured Man

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Having just seen the thread regarding the Coloured Man thread here - 

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/379465-teddy-vann-coloured-man/?tab=comments#comment-2358072

 

Does anyone know whether people collect vinyl records of tv/film music scores? I guess they must. Would a collector in that market compete for the same record in our soul music market ie, would they pay $400? Anyone know anything about that market? 

Pete

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As I started the Teddy Vann thread I thought I ought to weigh in here as well. The collectors market for movie soundtracks is massive but almost entirely based around the albums that were brought out to cash in on the popularity of the films. One of the biggest selling albums of all time was "The Sound Of Music". Virtually every film that had a sound track had a sound track album. As with soul music those with the least successful sales first time around seem to garner the highest prices 30/40/50 years later. There are a couple of LP's on ebay at the moment asking $2000+ but as we all know asking price ain't necessarily the selling price. I have bought many 60's soundtracks over the years simply to get tracks that fit a northern vibe but never came out in any other format. Some of these have stonking instrumentals like the Tony Curtis/Debbie Reynolds film "The Rat Race" (although in this case at least 4 different versions of the theme made it on to 45). Others have interesting vocal tracks like the 1966 movie "Out of Sight" which features, alongside Gary Lewis & the Playboys, The Turtles and Freddie & the Dreamers, the original full length version of "Out On The Floor" by Dobie Gray. 45's taken from the movie soundtracks that are collectible on the soul scene are few and far between, I probably have about a dozen or so out 30,000 records. There are a few that you would not necessarily think of as movie tracks like "Walk Tall (Like A Man)" by Two of Clubs/Christy Allen/Verdelle Smith that came from the awful 1967 movie "Doctor You've Got To Be Kidding" Starring Sandra Dee and George Hamilton - the song was actually done by Sandra Dee in the film (check out the trailer on youtube to see how dire this film is but also for a glimpse of her singing it).

 

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On a bit of a roll here - I have another extremely rare version of the same song (Walk Tall) by Bobby Silver on Venett Records which I have played out a few times when deejaying over the years mainly because I am sure he sings " She don't give a F**k for you" at about 1 minute 16 seconds. Check it out below

 

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25 minutes ago, georgeblackwell said:

On a bit of a roll here - I have another extremely rare version of the same song (Walk Tall) by Bobby Silver on Venett Records which I have played out a few times when deejaying over the years mainly because I am sure he sings " She don't give a F**k for you" at about 1 minute 16 seconds. Check it out below


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You’re firing blanks mate! You’re links aren’t working.

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6 hours ago, georgeblackwell said:

Just found out it wasn't even Sandra Dee singing in the film but the legendary Marie Greene who sang uncredited for hundreds of hollywood stars in their movies. Below is a clip of the song. (Bloody Awful)


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there's a brilliant documentary about Marie Greene and several others who did the same thing which crops up on BBC 4 quite regularly, I think it's called Hollywood's Hidden Voices or something like that, it's a while since I watched it but well worth seeing, some interesting trivia such as Natalie Wood not knowing she had been over dubbed until she was sat at the première of West Side Story. Also Deborah Kerr is not singing in The King and I.

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Soundtrack is good , film don't bother , bloody awful !👎

14 minutes ago, Steve S 60 said:

The only film soundtrack album I own is Short Eyes by Curtis Mayfield, and the stand out track for me is this one, Need Someone To Love.....

 

Incidentally, I have yet to see the movie.

 

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12 hours ago, Peter99 said:

Having just seen the thread regarding the Coloured Man thread here - 

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/379465-teddy-vann-coloured-man/?tab=comments#comment-2358072

 

Does anyone know whether people collect vinyl records of tv/film music scores? I guess they must. Would a collector in that market compete for the same record in our soul music market ie, would they pay $400? Anyone know anything about that market? 

Pete

 

Peter, a good friend of mine runs a record store and label that only deals in Soundtracks and vinyl reissues of hard to obtain movie scores .The last time I talked to him he told me that there are at the minimum 20,000 soundtracks in their collection,so yes, the market is huge and collectors from all over the world will pay good money for those records.

I personally own a lot of Soundtrack Lp's ,probably a couple of hundred in fact.They are mostly 1970's Jazz, Funk and Soul type affairs with scores by artists like Quincy Jones,Oliver Nelson ,Shorty Rodgers,Herbie Hancock, Gene Page and others.Ive also got some Prog Rock/experimental things and a ton of Blaxplotation Soundtracks which have some of the best music ever made on them IMO so I'm always on the lookout for those type of records to add to my collection.

.:hatsoff2:

 

Edit.

I picked this latest one up just pretty recently in fact.

Its the Willie Dynamite soundtrack by J.J.Johnson featuring Martha Reeves and its a terrific record with some very cool instrumentals too,pretty sure the whole album is on YouTube if anyone fancies a listen.

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I haven't wanted to admit this since the thread started but I feel sick every time I come back for a read, about two weeks before this thread started I was looking through some albums in an Antique shop (I'm being polite here junk shop more like) amongst the usual fare of Val Doonican, James Last and classical stuff there were about thirty soundtrack albums, all in mint condition, a couple of well known film scores Jaws for instance but the rest I'd never heard of, £1 each and sadly I'm sure I could have got them cheaper in a deal. Week after Christmas same shop had outside large box of around 200 singles, 50p each, my interest peaked when in the first batch I picked up there was a Philles paper sleeve, sadly nothing of note but plenty of reasons to keep looking , ended up buying a Luther Vandross only because I couldn't remember hearing the instrumental b side, as I was paying the chap said I've another box in the back if you want to look, same old 80's pop and early sixties Englebert and Cliff. 

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Well revisiting this thread after a productive day, having learnt my lesson last time returned to the shop visited in January, lo and behold more soundtracks, spent money I can hardly afford but came away with twenty odd soundtracks, checked on Discogs and Ebay for a guide to possible worth and there's a tidy profit to be had with more than half of the albums , a couple worth a mention ,Night Of The Living Dead, Revenge of the Ninja, Halloween, a couple of Ennio Morricone, Westworld, all mint and a quid each, bought em for my mate, some he's going to keep some he'll sell on when he comes back from his hols with me hopefully getting a share of any profit, one thing knowing the potential worth another thing finding buyers I would think.

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14 hours ago, Twoshoes said:

Well revisiting this thread after a productive day, having learnt my lesson last time returned to the shop visited in January, lo and behold more soundtracks

Good stuff..grab em' while you can Twoshoes !

Ennio Morricone is the Don !

 

I had this on the stereo a couple of days ago.

Its worth picking up if you see it going cheaply..I've found at least 3 near mint copies over the years for peanuts.

The films a bit naff though hehe.

 

I cant recommend this highly enough ..again its one you can  find a nice clean copy of for very little money if you look around.

Theres also an orchestral version of the music from the film by the New York Symphony which is a splendid recording of the score.

 

My favourite movie composer is probably this fella, Charles Bernstein .I don't think I've ever heard a bad piece of music from this guy, his film scores are excellent.  

 

 

He also did the soundtrack to this Quentin Tarantino movie

From the 'Gator' soundtrack.

 

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18 minutes ago, Soulsides said:

Good stuff..grab em' while you can

Wish I'd done that the first time, this thread came a week too late last time, this guy has stacks of vinyl outside his Antique shop which me and my mate have been through ,its all a bit ramshackle you can never tell if he has any new stuff in, by chance I noticed a new box yesterday and it was full of the soundtracks, 

Ennio Morricone is the Don !  I was taken aback by how many soundtracks he's done when I was checking up on prices, he's been a busy lad hasn't he, he is one of my mates favourites too so he was well pleased when I sent him pics of the sleeves, I'm undecided whether to listen to some of the albums or not, I might be tempted to keep a few.

  One of my favourite pieces of film music is from Basic Instinct ,not sure if it's the actual film score as I can't remember the movie but it's when she's walking around an art gallery I think. Love the music from the French classic Diva too.

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52 minutes ago, Twoshoes said:

 

One of my favourite pieces of film music is from Basic Instinct ,not sure if it's the actual film score as I can't remember the movie but it's when she's walking around an art gallery I think. 

Yeah, i've listened to that soundtrack and it's really good.

Gerry Goldsmith is the composer and I think it's probably his best soundtrack work although I don't own a copy of it myself at the moment.i'll have to grab a recording of it at some point.

The whole score is on You Tube but I don't know which is the bit from the art gallery scene as I've never actually watched the movie.

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14 minutes ago, Soulsides said:

I don't know which is the bit from the art gallery scene as I've never actually watched the movie.

I think this was the first time I'd ever been moved by a piece of music in a film since I heard Jim Croce Time In A Bottle in a bio pic of an American sports star dying from a terminal disease . Thinking back to watching old cowboy movies with my Dad I guess somewhere inside I've always had a liking for the big orchestral theme, John Wayne galloping across the plains of America :) which then by extension carries over into my love of the Big Beat Ballad, bit of a stretch I know but I know what I mean. From memory I think it was right at the beginning so could well be the actual theme to the film. 

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22 hours ago, Twoshoes said:

Thinking back to watching old cowboy movies with my Dad I guess somewhere inside I've always had a liking for the big orchestral theme

Oh yes, I can totally relate to this .

I'm an absolute sucker for a big western movie theme myself.

I think this piece of music is awesome, its composed by Stelvio.Cipriani and from the Italian made Western 'Nevada'. It was also used in the Red Dead Revolver video game which is where I must confess to hearing it first- I'm not that hip and groovy,alas ! 

 

This is another great bit of  soundtrack work .

 

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9 hours ago, gogs said:

Watch a film today "keeping up with the Joneses" and this came on at the end, not bad

I've always been a sucker for a good duet, thanks for posting, plus on this particular tune the line "sparks turn into flames" always hits me,have we had a thread concentrating on duets?

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9 hours ago, gogs said:

Heard this one in a film recently

ummm I used to have the soundtrack to Across 110th Street, wonder what happened to that, before anyone says it I know the clip was from Jackie Brown.

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15 minutes ago, Twoshoes said:

Jackie Brown.

Hehe- I was just about to mention that !

Definitely the best Tarantino movie by a country mile in my opinion.The soundtrack is excellent .

This is a good one, think I only paid a fiver for it.

the film is hilarious too..

 

 

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