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Everybody else seems to have a book published these days, so I thought this is what I would write a book about.  You know those stories that many different people have told you over the years that are clearly complete bollocks, but people still keep on telling them.

Here is one that comes to mind:  Me and my mate went to Blackpool Mecca and he had such a massive bag of blues that he decided to hide them by burying them in the sand under the pier and when we went back for them the tide had come in.

If only I had a pound for every time I had heard that one. :yes:

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Another one:  This girl bought some dummy pills which had been dipped in food dye, and when she came out of the toilets her teeth were dyed blue.

Although I do have a faint memory that I might actually have seen that once?

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Ive heard this one quite a few times now :lol: used there car jack to get the door off the drugs cabinet in a chemist !!!!!got what they went in for and off they went only to get a flat tyre further on the journey and some coppers pulled over to have a word and apparently the cops used the police car jack to change the lads wheel and of they went on to Wigan :wicked:heard this story numerous times from different people different parts of the country so does anyone know if this really happened ?atb baz

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15 hours ago, woolie mark said:

Everybody else seems to have a book published these days, so I thought this is what I would write a book about.  You know those stories that many different people have told you over the years that are clearly complete bollocks, but people still keep on telling them.

Here is one that comes to mind:  Me and my mate went to Blackpool Mecca and he had such a massive bag of blues that he decided to hide them by burying them in the sand under the pier and when we went back for them the tide had come in.

If only I had a pound for every time I had heard that one. :yes:

PS:  Cockney Norman once went to Wigan Casino doesn't count, because he's the only one who tells it

Read Tony Ellis's boo "How to do Northern Soul Properly" you'll crease yourself from larfing................  :lol:

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What about the guy that leapt off the casino balcony onto the floor when his fave record came on

Or the fire brigade called out to Cleggy pier fearing that the pier could be in danger of collapse from the vibrations of dancers stomping to So is the Sun

Both stories heard many times over the years :wink:

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Urban Myths.

How about...

A disposable income and an ebay account makes you a DJ.

Attending one Youth Club Disco in 1977 and being able to remember all the Lyrics of 'Footsee' makes you a Veteran.

Everyone always wears Spencers and Circle Skirts.

7 pints of Stella and a bottle of WKD makes you a Dancer.

Chemical Enhancers made your Knob small..... honest!.

 

 

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1.Simon Soussan had a machine that could wipe the vocals off any record.  Almost true as he got access to studio tapes of Mirwood and Modern.

2.The drill hole on singles is from a BB gun and the records could then be strung up in ships holds.

3.Any record that hadn't been found on stock copies had only been pressed as DJ promos. e.g Darrell Banks on London

Rick

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2 hours ago, Patto said:

What about the guy that leapt off the casino balcony onto the floor when his fave record came on

Or the fire brigade called out to Cleggy pier fearing that the pier could be in danger of collapse from the vibrations of dancers stomping to So is the Sun

Both stories heard many times over the years :wink:

I did leap off the balcony at Wigan, and nearly broke my ankle doing it

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10 hours ago, Chris L said:

Read Tony Ellis's boo "How to do Northern Soul Properly" you'll crease yourself from larfing................  :lol:

Now that's given me a few ideas Chris.....northern soul Haynes manual and Ladybird book.  

My publisher is going to love this stuff.  Keep them coming please folks, I can almost smell the Japanese Yen that's heading my way!  

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20 hours ago, baz1 said:

Ive heard this one quite a few times now :lol: used there car jack to get the door off the drugs cabinet in a chemist !!!!!got what they went in for and off they went only to get a flat tyre further on the journey and some coppers pulled over to have a word and apparently the cops used the police car jack to change the lads wheel and of they went on to Wigan :wicked:heard this story numerous times from different people different parts of the country so does anyone know if this really happened ?atb baz

Perhaps this story was the inspiration for the scene in Quadrophenia where Chalky, Jimmy and Dave (I think) break into Monkey's chemist to get enough blues to tide them through a weekend in Brighton?  From memory they used what looked like some form of jack to prise open the bars on a window.  

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To get into a chemist in the 70ts was just kick the front door in - to get into the DD cabinet 12" screwdriver worked every time - if it wasn't planned you used you're socks as gloves - if it was planned you brought along a pair of gloves - fun times

other stores - remove the roof tiles to get in and go through the shop next door via the roof space - hope that helps

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8 hours ago, Mick Holdsworth said:

One funny one I remember was that David Cassidy was David of the Giants.

...I heard that Benny Troy was Alvin Stardust.....  :lol:   ....,

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On 15/01/2018 at 20:05, geeselad said:

There's a photo of a young and very tidy Anna Ford at the cassino 

 My ex wife now lives with her 👅

 

On 15/01/2018 at 17:07, Spain pete said:

Someone once told me that a famous news reader went to Wigan ,  when l inquired who, they told me it was Trevor mac Donald 👅

 

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That Frank Worthington of Bolton Wanderers and England fame went to the Casino in 78 and attempted an audacious high kick and pulled his hamstring and missed the start of the season recovering but later in the season dedicated his goal of the season against Ipswich to Jackie Wilson.

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18 hours ago, ZoomSoulBlue said:

To get into a chemist in the 70ts was just kick the front door in - to get into the DD cabinet 12" screwdriver worked every time - if it wasn't planned you used you're socks as gloves - if it was planned you brought along a pair of gloves - fun times

other stores - remove the roof tiles to get in and go through the shop next door via the roof space - hope that helps

They don't sound much like "myths" to me !  :ohmy:

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On 1/15/2018 at 19:05, geeselad said:

There's a photo of a young and very tidy Anna Ford at the cassino 

There is a photo in the Soul Survivors book that is supposed to be Anna Ford apparently.  This story has grown in some circles to Tony Wilson told her he was taking her to a glamorous night club and then sneaked her in the back door to Mr Ms before the nighter started so that he didn't have to pay for them to get in.  I haven't made that up and it is actually quite a funny story because Tony Wilson was a bit like the Ian Levine of the Manchester post-punk scene and it does seem like the kind of thing that he would actually have done.  Give it a few more years and it will be Bez was with them and that's how he got the idea of serving up gear at the Hacienda.

When I first read this, I thought I remembered seeing a photo of her at the Casino years ago.  On reflection, I think I must have a false memory from hearing the story so many times.  I think they did have a kind of VIP room at the Casino though didn't they, or am I imagining that too?

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On 1/16/2018 at 15:39, back street blue said:

All the best dancers were at the front........and were mostly coal miners from Lancashire

I've just clicked that these are quotes from the man who should stick to playing with his toy train sets rather than keep pretending he's a northern soul expert.

He also said that all the dancers were male and that the women didn't dance. 

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6 hours ago, woolie mark said:

There is a photo in the Soul Survivors book that is supposed to be Anna Ford apparently.  This story has grown in some circles to Tony Wilson told her he was taking her to a glamorous night club and then sneaked her in the back door to Mr Ms before the nighter started so that he didn't have to pay for them to get in.  I haven't made that up and it is actually quite a funny story because Tony Wilson was a bit like the Ian Levine of the Manchester post-punk scene and it does seem like the kind of thing that he would actually have done.  Give it a few more years and it will be Bez was with them and that's how he got the idea of serving up gear at the Hacienda.

When I first read this, I thought I remembered seeing a photo of her at the Casino years ago.  On reflection, I think I must have a false memory from hearing the story so many times.  I think they did have a kind of VIP room at the Casino though didn't they, or am I imagining that too?

think its in Dave Shaw's book isn't it. the Anna ford photo

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Well soul anyway.

It used to be "common knowledge" that Mary Wells couldn't hit some of the notes on My Guy and the vocal is actually Smokey Robinson.

Close your eyes and imagine Smokey singing it. And you can see how back in the day a lot of people did believe it.

 

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15 hours ago, woolie mark said:

There is a photo in the Soul Survivors book that is supposed to be Anna Ford apparently.  This story has grown in some circles to Tony Wilson told her he was taking her to a glamorous night club and then sneaked her in the back door to Mr Ms before the nighter started so that he didn't have to pay for them to get in.  I haven't made that up and it is actually quite a funny story because Tony Wilson was a bit like the Ian Levine of the Manchester post-punk scene and it does seem like the kind of thing that he would actually have done.  Give it a few more years and it will be Bez was with them and that's how he got the idea of serving up gear at the Hacienda.

When I first read this, I thought I remembered seeing a photo of her at the Casino years ago.  On reflection, I think I must have a false memory from hearing the story so many times.  I think they did have a kind of VIP room at the Casino though didn't they, or am I imagining that too?

Has Anna Ford actually confirmed she went to the Casino? I’ve just checked the photo in the book and the the lady at the front left has her back to the camera so you can’t tell. It is an unusual photo with the manager, Mike Walker sitting around a table with 8 ladies and a bloke. In the background, there are two gents wearing suits and ties suggesting it could be the Saturday eve disco or even a mid-week function.

As far as I’m concerned, Anna Ford was not a regular at the Casino and I sometimes wonder why we bother paying attention to the celeb-connections such as Marc Almond, Dexy’s etc.

 

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2 hours ago, FRANKIE CROCKER said:

Has Anna Ford actually confirmed she went to the Casino? I’ve just checked the photo in the book and the the lady at the front left has her back to the camera so you can’t tell. It is an unusual photo with the manager, Mike Walker sitting around a table with 8 ladies and a bloke. In the background, there are two gents wearing suits and ties suggesting it could be the Saturday eve disco or even a mid-week function.

As far as I’m concerned, Anna Ford was not a regular at the Casino and I sometimes wonder why we bother paying attention to the celeb-connections such as Marc Almond, Dexy’s etc.

 

Marc almond's got an urban myth all of his own, pmsl  

 

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10 hours ago, hornet said:

Comedy carpet ? Would that B A tartan 1 ?

Not the Mecca ;) . I cant do youtube links the carpet is outside the Tower on the promonade and when the soul do is on lots of baggies dance on it . Seeing is believing .

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On 1/18/2018 at 23:09, geeselad said:

Marc almond's got an urban myth all of his own, pmsl  

 

The stomach pump one?

That story predates him.  It was originally told about a rock and roll singer in the 50s who was well known to be gay, think it might have been Little Richard?

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On 1/17/2018 at 18:05, SOUL INC said:

Not Soul related, but amusing anyway - Someone in the pub a few years ago told me with a straight face and complete honesty that the West Country comedian Jethro was formerly a pop star going by the name of Jethro Tull

Funny you never saw Jethro and Dave Godin in the same room.  Maybe it was really Denzel who came up with the name "northern soul"?

 

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