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I hear you. I suppose the question is has life got better or worse for Black people in the USA since then ? For some better, worse for a lot though when you look at early death, incarceration figures etc the music is just a mirror of the times I guess , but like a lot on this site I suppose musically  I’m more immersed in the past rather than the present but I’ve recently got into some new acts that are damn right joyful (tank & the bangers, Kota the friend, phony people) but theres a really broad range of black music out there since I recently started moving my mouse around 

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18 hours ago, shufflin said:

any vinyl release of this?

Have had a cursory look, but looks like MP3 Download only. Would be nice on a 7" but I'm just a standard Nerd! 

For me, on a personal note, my music always has to be dark. The most inane love tune can always be darked up. My pal says 'not another wrist slasher Nick' or 'Jeez that's such a foot dragger it'll take you half an hour to get to the bar' 😁 For me the world is a dark and dangerous place. 

 

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On 11/05/2018 at 12:50, solidsoul said:

It’s a shame if that’s America!

What am I supposed to getting from it?

The music isn’t any good and a lot of actors running about a warehouse being daft!

Yes, it is an awful shame.  The USA is a lot worse than the video implies.  It's a complete mess, and getting worse every day.  I'll be happy when my sister leaves, and I can be completely gone from there.

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On 15/05/2018 at 07:59, Mark S said:

My favorite album ever never far from the deck . Bought an import copy in 1973 i I think thats when it came out , the sleeve is in a frame on my wall its probably one of the most powerfull pieces of sleeve art I have ever seen and as a young socialist really moved me ,some 40 odd years on it still does .

Curtis's cover of Baby Huey Hard times is just stunning 

Yes, a very powerful and hard hitting picture telling it like it was (and still is) saying far more than any number of words. How different and honest it is to the 100s of Soul LPs released with either a  picture of a good looking white person or couple on the cover in order to attract a wider record buying public.

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Nor do I in this case, there are stylistic similarities but that is how rap trends work.  Musically it's not similar, structurally its not identical.  The early 60s Dance craze songs would of seen much legal action in this era, as many were almost identical. 

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7 hours ago, ThinkSmart said:

Nor do I in this case, there are stylistic similarities but that is how rap trends work.  Musically it's not similar, structurally its not identical.  The early 60s Dance craze songs would of seen much legal action in this era, as many were almost identical. 

...and you’ve brought the thread niftily around to northern soul...SHING-A-LING!!!  

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Social commentary is and has always been a key element in Rap, the idea being that you rap about what you know,your experiences and where you come from, i.e.the streets and This Is America is a very strong example of that ethos and just how powerful social commentary can be,especially when it's applied to music.

In Hip Hop terms the subject matter in 'This is America' is nothing new and I say that  with all respect because I do like this track but many Rap artists have been rapping about these themes for many years and for me ,the central message in the video is about guns and violence in America and the fact that we have a dual ability deal with them and consume them as part entertainment on one hand, and on the other hand, form a huge part of a major problem for the U.S.A. regarding gun control.

Theres also in the video a portrayal about the contradiction of being a black man in America,racial stereotyping,misdirection of the media and police brutality.

For me personally, again, 'This is America' is a protest song for the modern age.

Someone mentioned a comparison to Gil Scott Heron earlier in the thread and I can totally relate to that comment, GSH was one of the best to ever do it in my opinion.

It's a very thought provoking video nonetheless with a decent song to boot and the fact a Hip Hop track is being discussed on a Northern Soul forum is testament to that.

This was released in 1993 and has a very similar message (if not a video) the whole lp is tremendous too I might add !

 

 

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