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41 minutes ago, mike said:

wonder if how many times you replay  a video is significant at all

powerful be my take

Drinking Kool Aid, 

is an expression commonly used in the United States that refers to any person or group who goes along with a doomed or dangerous idea because of peer pressure. 

Could be Northern Soul 🤔😂

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Make you right Mike! It's the best bit of music I've heard since the WU TANG. And the coriography is superb. Good shout brother, have a great weekend, Nick. 

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31 minutes ago, Colnago said:

Sat on the kasi watching this, couldn’t have timed it better imo , sorry but didn’t do owt for me . 

 

for me a big part of its power is whats going on in the background

mobile screen never gonna do it justice unless you lugged in a 24 screen for your dump

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28 minutes ago, mike said:

 

for me a big part of its power is whats going on in the background

mobile screen never gonna do it justice unless you lugged in a 24 screen for your dump

😄good one mike , but had a look at the big screen still caused ‘movement ‘ . Horses for courses and all that ....

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4 hours ago, mike said:

wonder if how many times you replay  a video is significant at all

powerful be my take

I think you're right on the money Mike - I  have watched it several times now (it has been viewed almost 78 million times an YT) SO many things going on in the video, lots to interpret, much relevant social comment.

Best thing I've heard/seen for a while. Many thanks for the heads up.

p.s. Check him out in the series 'Atlanta' well worth a watch.

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12 minutes ago, solidsoul said:

It’s a shame if that’s America!

What am I supposed to getting from it?

The music isn’t any good and a lot of actors running about a warehouse being daft!

Have you any idea how ridiculous your comment is? Mate if you don't know I can't be arsed to tell you. 

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16 hours ago, solidsoul said:

It’s a shame if that’s America!

What am I supposed to getting from it?

The music isn’t any good and a lot of actors running about a warehouse being daft!

always good to read others takes

16 hours ago, Rich B said:

I think you're right on the money Mike - I  have watched it several times now (it has been viewed almost 78 million times an YT) SO many things going on in the video, lots to interpret, much relevant social comment.

Best thing I've heard/seen for a while. Many thanks for the heads up.

p.s. Check him out in the series 'Atlanta' well worth a watch.

no probs Rich, as said thought was powerful stuff, worth a pass on :thumbsup:

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16 hours ago, themroc said:

Have you any idea how ridiculous your comment is? Mate if you don't know I can't be arsed to tell you. 

 

16 hours ago, themroc said:

Have you any idea how ridiculous your comment is? Mate if you don't know I can't be arsed to tell you. 

Not being funny but can someone explain the executions in the video ( not into videos by the way)I mean yeh I get the gun violence by cops and gangsters  an all that , but I don’t know how them scenes would be perceived by some 14 yr old would be gangster, I take it it’s targeted to the youngsters etc or anyone I suppose.......

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7 minutes ago, Colnago said:

 

Not being funny but can someone explain the executions in the video ( not into videos by the way)I mean yeh I get the gun violence by cops and gangsters  an all that , but I don’t know how them scenes would be perceived by some 14 yr old would be gangster, I take it it’s targeted to the youngsters etc or anyone I suppose.......

Here are some explanations, people can really use their brains -better than me !

 

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1 hour ago, stevegods said:

What kind of influence would GSH have had , had there been social media and the internet back in his day . 

Not that he didn’t have influence on music !! 

And the video technology which he didn’t get/have . 

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On 12/05/2018 at 19:18, Mark S said:

Fantastic bit of social commentary the symbolism is fascinating , the music is challenging for me but the visual impact more than makes up for any shortcomings. I dont normally like music vids watched this several times .

I have allways seen soul music as a reflection/representation of the black experience from the Blues to Hip Hop so  taking that on board for me this is soul and then some .

Yeah, absolutely agree with you there Mark.  First time I saw it I immediately thought of GSH, it's just a simply astonishing piece of social commentary. 

One of the things I get out of it is how people are avoiding the tragic reality of what is going on around them by living in a social-media fantasy world.  I interpret that's what he's referring to in the bit where he is saying "I'm so pretty"....but then every time I watch it I see something new.

It's also made me want to watch "Atlanta" and I forsee some escapist immersion in popular entertainment on my part....which is one of the other issues the video is confronting along with the more obvious references to racist murders, excessive police violence, historic civil rights struggles, glorification of gun ownership, etc, etc, etc. 

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22 hours ago, stevegods said:

What kind of influence would GSH have had , had there been social media and the internet back in his day . 

Not that he didn’t have influence on music !! 

GSH was a genius. RIP
Very little has changed in those 35+ years except that a B Movie actor has been replaced by a Reality TV presenter. Everything he says in the song could still applies today.........sad that no lessons have been learned at all.

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The revolution will be televised. I watched the Tottenham riots live on Sky rolling news with my son sharing a 8 pack of Stella cheering on the youth and that's the truth Ruth. 

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Thought provoking .. , and I took it to be America dances/gets high whilst it self destructs under the combination of drugs/Trump and inadequate gun control. I see he had early contributions to The Simpsons , so very satirical roots .  Whilst I admire satire any work  that needs an explanatory  video to follow based on peoples Twitter feeds may have missed an opportunity. Id agree GSH .. and Curtis have done it better. 

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4 hours ago, Mark S said:

My favorite album ever never far from the deck . Bought an import copy in 1973 i I think thats when it came out , the sleeve is in a frame on my wall its probably one of the most powerfull pieces of sleeve art I have ever seen and as a young socialist really moved me ,some 40 odd years on it still does .

Curtis's cover of Baby Huey Hard times is just stunning 

The strange thing is that the original photo of this cover is in black n white with the queue facing toward the right. But a powerful image non the less. I'm totally obsessed with the musical genius of Curtis Mayfield but his version of Hard Times/In My Bodies House is the weakest while Huey is top and Gene Chandler second. Curtis wrote the tune so it must be Huey cover of Curtis. 

Respect, Nick. 

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War's , the world is a ghetto , ain't half bad either  , love the political side of soul music as well. 👍🎶

4 hours ago, Mark S said:

My favorite album ever never far from the deck . Bought an import copy in 1973 i I think thats when it came out , the sleeve is in a frame on my wall its probably one of the most powerfull pieces of sleeve art I have ever seen and as a young socialist really moved me ,some 40 odd years on it still does .

Curtis's cover of Baby Huey Hard times is just stunning 

 

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Always thought that Marvin's what's going on could have had better art work , but l suppose his depression on the cover shows through , what is the swing all about though .? 👅🎶 

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1 hour ago, themroc said:

The strange thing is that the original photo of this cover is in black n white with the queue facing toward the right. But a powerful image non the less. I'm totally obsessed with the musical genius of Curtis Mayfield but his version of Hard Times/In My Bodies House is the weakest while Huey is top and Gene Chandler second. Curtis wrote the tune so it must be Huey cover of Curtis. 

Respect, Nick. 

Chicken and egg type thing Nick penned by Mayfield for Baby Huey  either way a powerfull tune 

 Will have to set up a three way version battle for me a photo finnish 😉

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Season one of his drama atlanta is currently running on bbc2

 

season 2 has started or is about to start in the states so we might get that straight after season 1.

 

i've only seen parts 1 and 2 but its very good and carries on well with the social commentary.

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9 minutes ago, dylan said:

Season one of his drama atlanta is currently running on bbc2

 

season 2 has started or is about to start in the states so we might get that straight after season 1.

 

i've only seen parts 1 and 2 but its very good and carries on well with the social commentary.

I'm all over it brother! SUFUKINBERB. 

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4 hours ago, dylan said:

Season one of his drama atlanta is currently running on bbc2

 

season 2 has started or is about to start in the states so we might get that straight after season 1.

 

i've only seen parts 1 and 2 but its very good and carries on well with the social commentary.

Think the full season one boxset is on Sky, that’s where I first caught - glad season 2 is coming 

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4 minutes ago, Ahoy Sailor said:

Think the full season one boxset is on Sky, that’s where I first caught - glad season 2 is coming 

I do prefer to crash through things quicker than one show a week so i will have a look.

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13 minutes ago, Ahoy Sailor said:

Think the full season one boxset is on Sky, that’s where I first caught - glad season 2 is coming 

It's kinda strange that they're 20 minuet episodes like he's making music videos 

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I swear to christ that Atlanta is the funniest thing to happen to this planet since the asteroid hit us six million years ago and wiped the dinosaurs out. 

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On 15/05/2018 at 13:59, Mark S said:

Chicken and egg type thing Nick penned by Mayfield for Baby Huey  either way a powerfull tune 

 Will have to set up a three way version battle for me a photo finnish 😉

Can't belive it! Season 1 episode 8 Atlanta they play the Gene Chandler, I think?? 

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3 hours ago, themroc said:

Can't belive it! Season 1 episode 8 Atlanta they play the Gene Chandler, I think?? 

Still current and cool after all these years eh.

Enjoyed the first couple of episodes .

Paper Boi 

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On 15/05/2018 at 08:09, carty said:

 Confirms for me that the high point in Black American music was around 50 years ago , and its been down hill ever since . 

I imagine that’s what a few people thought in 1968 looking back at a  golden age in jazz , what goes around comes around etc

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18 minutes ago, polyvelts said:

I imagine that’s what a few people thought in 1968 looking back at a  golden age in jazz , what goes around comes around etc

Well   maybe there is something in that , I certainly heard similar  from my in laws years ago . Was there not something in the early  and mid sixties  though, especially  within  Black Urban  America  at the time , that shines through in the music ?   you know  times were still quite hard , but getting better for many , hopes of a brighter future  , and a general exhuberance in the air ( magically captured  in  the 45s )  that seemed to change abruptly  around the late sixties , after the Detroit riots , the Assassination  of Martin Luther King , etc  the whole vibe seemed to change , the vibe got darker , by the early seventies , that happy naivety  of a few years before was gone , and never really returned .                                                                                      They had that   radio 1 xtra  on in the gym the other day ,    the lyrics of some of the songs speak of  a sub human existence  that i found quite disturbing to be honest .  God knows what they will be singing about in a decade or two .                            I enjoyed the Blaxsploitation stuff in the early seventies ,  but not too much after that . 

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