BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Discovery, venues, first plays, DJs etc... My lass doesn't recall it from WC and Ms at all, I first heard early 80s, my lass knows it well and used to ask for it at Keele 80s (probably our Keith) however she can't put a finger on how/where/when she knew it from. If it's not a fave please no hate mail. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Md Records Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I first heard it at Stafford played by Gary Rushbrooke Des 2 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Foran Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I had it on a tape from Rob Marriott in 1980 BUT never heard it out at that time. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Spain pete Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Massive on the so called popcorn scene according to a Belgium acquaintance of mine , lovely atmospheric record , top ten for me . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Shocked us to find out how many people don't know this one, obviously present company excepted. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Its a well know oldies now surely. Gary Rushbrooke spin, may have been back end of Wigan, certainly early 80s post wigan, Stafford, Oddfellows etc. Would never have been played in Mr M’s as it wasn’t an oldie then and totally wrong kinda record. 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Great tune, not heard it out for years, hence some may not know it - That's the case for a lot of those 'used to get played' tunes. As you say, surprising sometimes, but makes sense if a tune has been 'shelved' as they say. All the best, Len 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, LEN said: Great tune, not heard it out for years, hence some may not know it - That's the case for a lot of those 'used to get played' tunes. As you say, surprising sometimes, but makes sense if a tune has been 'shelved' as they say. All the best, Len Well it's enjoying a huge boost in interest at the moment, thanks to my lass, it's going huge with all the DJs and folks we know. For me it's certainly been around for the entirety of my soul existence! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Same here - But it's great when old tunes get a new lease of life. It makes you appreciate them once again......or regret selling them Len 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Quality classic, it was played regularly on the scene in the 80's. Far more relevant than many oldies given big plays today. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Patto Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Yeah Massive well known even hammered tune during the 80s and 90s.Epitimises the more mid tempo soulful output that defined the Stafford period. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, Patto said: Yeah Massive well known even hammered tune during the 80s and 90s.Epitimises the more mid tempo soulful output that defined the Stafford period. That's how we see it Patto but a lot nowadays don't know it, well they DO now! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I know it well enough. Cracking soul record. P 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 My lass has been championing it on all the fb soul forums and internet radio shows, it's enjoying a huge boost in popularity on the 21st C scene. Like we've all said a huge oldie for us, a recent discovery for a lot of newcomers, who absolutely adore it, and rightly so, it's superb! Thanks for the input folks! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Any known photos of the lovely lady? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) This is from you tube- not 100% sure its her though Edited May 1, 2018 by the yank 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Md Records Posted May 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) She’s a pretty well documented Detroit singer, recording with Dream Girls on Metro Records then on Big Top (Check out “Now He’s Gone” for that unmistakeable voice) The American Arts 45 was recorded at Golden World studios Edited May 1, 2018 by SOUL INC 2 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just found this, captioned: Bobbie Smith at The Apollo 1960. 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Lionelonthevinyl Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Known this for years...thought everyone did....it's gone up in price the last few years so it's collectable to a good few...great record imo....kind regards Rob. p.s...it must be you south west lot!!!!.. (It's my favourite place the south west so don't take offence!!) Edited May 1, 2018 by Lionelonthevinyl 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Stacey Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 hours ago, SOUL INC said: I first heard it at Stafford played by Gary Rushbrooke Des same here des definitely Gary Rushbrooke 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Lionelonthevinyl said: Known this for years...thought everyone did....it's gone up in price the last few years so it's collectable to a good few...great record imo....kind regards Rob. p.s...it must be you south west lot!!!!.. (It's my favourite place the south west so don't take offence!!) It is! My lass has turned them onto it and they're going mad for it! A very welcome thing. My lass knows her onions and still one of the prettiest girls on the scene! Rob I don't take offense, the only thing that gets me down is people saying negative stuff about records, no need for it imo, positive or keep stum, that's how I play things, wish everyone did the same! Get down here, two great weekenders this year St Ives and Newquay, St Ives July sold out in January but Newquay in November still available! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Lionelonthevinyl Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Will be in Devon October I think, but unfortunately my wife finds us all bonkers being so mad about the music we love!! And if you get it your addicted!! As I posted earlier I never judge (one of my better points)...long haired, shaved haired, scruffy bugger, mods what ever...we are all into it for the music, it's an amazing scene I think, got someone once telling me about the stuff he had on tic-tac,,(ric-tic) bless him..never gonna cause me any bother, nice chap really...thank you..Rob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lionelonthevinyl said: Will be in Devon October I think, but unfortunately my wife finds us all bonkers being so mad about the music we love!! And if you get it your addicted!! As I posted earlier I never judge (one of my better points)...long haired, shaved haired, scruffy bugger, mods what ever...we are all into it for the music, it's an amazing scene I think, got someone once telling me about the stuff he had on tic-tac,,(ric-tic) bless him..never gonna cause me any bother, nice chap really...thank you..Rob Devon? Wash your mouth out! Good man! It takes allsorts to make a soul brew! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Lionelonthevinyl Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, BabyBoyAndMyLass said: Devon? Wash your mouth out! Good man! It takes allsorts to make a soul brew! I love the diversity...every miss fit and there mates are at niters and most soul do,s...be good...Rob 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Simon T Posted May 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, IAN STACEY said: same here des definitely Gary Rushbrooke 06:29 . How quickly 34 years flies bye....... 2 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, simon t said: 06:29 . How quickly 34 years flies bye....... Innit just. Good nights down there. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Lionelonthevinyl said: Known this for years...thought everyone did....it's gone up in price the last few years so it's collectable to a good few...great record imo....kind regards Rob. p.s...it must be you south west lot!!!!.. (It's my favourite place the south west so don't take offence!!) Rob. You say it's gone up in price mate the last few years.. Remember it being something like £80 for years and normally on white demos . Think the last one I saw recently was £150. . I have only just been enlightened regarding the popcorn scene and the demand for this sort of record. Steve 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Im assuming its the same Bobby? Just love this track by her too. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, geeselad said: Im assuming its the same Bobby? Just love this track by her too. It is yes, she started in 1959 with The Dream girls. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Winsford Soul said: and normally on white demos . Where the WDs with red print and others with black print? Also a boot with black print? Or was there a boot of the issue on vinyl? Edited May 1, 2018 by simon t Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 hours ago, BabyBoyAndMyLass said: It is yes, she started in 1959 with The Dream girls. Yes. The Dream Girls on Big Top, and Bobbie, solo on American Arts, were a Detroit group produced (and managed?) by Harry Balk. 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sunnysoul Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 4 hours ago, RobbK said: Yes. The Dream Girls on Big Top, and Bobbie, solo on American Arts, were a Detroit group produced (and managed?) by Harry Balk. Robb ... been meaning to ask you for a long time now ... how old were you when your photo was taken ? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Lionelonthevinyl Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Winsford Soul said: Rob. You say it's gone up in price mate the last few years.. Remember it being something like £80 for years and normally on white demos . Think the last one I saw recently was £150. . I have only just been enlightened regarding the popcorn scene and the demand for this sort of record. Steve 1st saw it Steve for about £35/40....thats when it came to my attention anyway. I'm from the midlands so makes sense it was played at Leicester (before my time) and maybe known up here more than elsewhere earlier?? Thank you....Rob 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Winsford Soul said: Rob. You say it's gone up in price mate the last few years.. Remember it being something like £80 for years and normally on white demos . Think the last one I saw recently was £150. . I have only just been enlightened regarding the popcorn scene and the demand for this sort of record. Steve Been 80-120 for a long time. Loads of copies about. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davenpete Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 14 hours ago, simon t said: 06:29 . How quickly 34 years flies bye....... God the Vondells is still brilliant. Dx 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Girdwoodinc Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Bobbie Smith - great record but prefer the other side 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ahoy Sailor said: Bobbie Smith - great record but prefer the other side Feel free to post it! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Girdwoodinc Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ahoy Sailor said: Nice - never heard that side. Is that a beat ballad? It is to me! P 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Daved Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 It got reissued on Goldmine Soul Supply last decade so it hasn't been forgotten about for too long. Certainly not overplayed though. I like it. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MBarrett Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Peter99 said: Nice - never heard that side. Is that a beat ballad? It is to me! P Miss Stronghearted A gentle swing to the beat - so I think another one that the Popcorn folk would go for. All in all a nice track. IMHO. Edited May 2, 2018 by MBarrett Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Speedlimit Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Ok some of you are semi right it was first played by both Gary and guy at the tudor court in draycott derby in 1982 twas a cold winter's nite remember it well as I walked the 4 miles from Stapleford to get there as buses weren't running :-):-) 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 beautiful record! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Joesoap Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 On 01/05/2018 at 23:14, simon t said: I always remember rumours that the white demo of this was a boot. One of them is it?/isn't it? debates that went on. Did that ever get resolved? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davenpete Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 There was defo a boot - the red print one - remember Richard Domar complaining about being ripped off with them. Dx 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Gary Rushbrooke 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) On 01/05/2018 at 18:57, BabyBoyAndMyLass said: Just found this, captioned: Bobbie Smith at The Apollo 1960. That's a pic taken by the official photographer at the Apollo. they always did them like this, sometimes just featuring the one act, sometimes 3 / 4 on the same bill. I always assumed these were taken on the first night (Friday) of a week long booking at the theatre & then sold to attendees every other night the act/s were on. ... Another from her ... Edited May 3, 2018 by Roburt 2 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
BabyBoyAndMyLass Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 19 hours ago, JoeSoap said: I always remember rumours that the white demo of this was a boot. One of them is it?/isn't it? debates that went on. Did that ever get resolved? From what I have seen it was booted on vinyl, OVO will be styrene. Only what I've read here in old threads. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 When was the bootleg pressed? And was it done for the UK Soul Scene or the Belgian Popcorn scene? From what I recall the boot had white label/black writing just like the white demo but was missing the line on the label and the "not for sale" etc part. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Benji said: When was the bootleg pressed? And was it done for the UK Soul Scene or the Belgian Popcorn scene? From what I recall the boot had white label/black writing just like the white demo but was missing the line on the label and the "not for sale" etc part. There is an original on styrene of that design if memory serves, boot is vinyl? Edited May 3, 2018 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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